August 22, 2007 1:33 pm  |  70 Comments

It’s a Game But It’s NOT A Game..

Lessons learned from the Eddie Griffin Situation

I feel sorry for Eddie Griffins’ loved ones. It’s always tragic when young people die. Regardless of how any of us felt about him as a basketball player, he had a family that I’m sure cared about him tremendously. Either way you cut it, it’s a sad situation.

I do have some beef with some of the earlier comments made on Sam’s column. I agree that stories where writers attempt to make a correlation between staying in college for four years and maturity are overdone and often done for ingenious reasons. However, that correlation is not without some validity. Lets keep it real, organization and the schedule of college life does/will help mature you. Maybe even civilize you. And that goes for anyone, not just athletes and star players. If you’re really good and have that hint that you can make it to the pros, you get passed through high school. Now this isn’t news to anyone, for years and years it has been like this. But the proliferation of AAU teams seems to have taken the shadiness up a notch or 5. There’s always this thought that education is secondary to basketball. Eddie Griffin is but an example. There are dozens upon dozens of players every year who play in these AAU tourneys for whom roses are places at their feet at such a young age that they never learn fundamental life skills. They don’t hear no often enough. Too many become spoiled and out of touch with reality. And nobody cares because everybody is trying to get over and don’t want to risk burning their bridge. Nobody really cared enough to get involved. Eddie Griffin probably needed therapy along time ago. He probably needed someone to say “he’s a good kid but dude got issues and they must be addressed otherwise we can’t deal with him. No matter what.” How many people really said that i wonder?

Now this happens in Hollywood too and the music business as well. Those with exceptional talent (or at least marketable talent) are sent along. Ready or not here they come. And I’m ok with that in the general sense. Go and get that money man (or woman), for real. But for me, because I work at a basketball mag and the majority of these young and really good players are Black, and often they come from impoverished backgrounds, well you see where I’m going right? If you are from the hood, the ghetto you know that the public schools suck, that well over half (pushing 65 percent according to the latest stats) of these households are single parent homes where women are asked to do everything, where stand-up men are at such a minimal amount that their overall impact is rendered pointless and the overall outlook is effed up then you know how easy it is to be seduced by some sheister dude with “connections”. Often they don’t give a crap about the kids, the shoe companies who get involved don’t give a crap and the family just isn’t savvy enough to see where this is headed. These kids already barely value education and they’ve never dealt with male authority that they respect, so when they get to be 16, 17 it is simply too late.

School may have been there final chance at redemption, their last shot to learn how to function as an adult. When people hear this they say it’s a racist thing, that these kids should not be looked at like they can’t function in society. Too even say such a thing is somehow prejudiced or has racial implications. Do you know what I say to them? They can join Al and Jesse and the rest of these race pimps on a train to hell and I promise to send them a card when they get there. Yes of course Lebron and Kobe and Dwight Howard and Tmac didn’t sniff college and they ended up fine. But the overall impact is detrimental. I speak to kids several times throughout the year. The last time was in June at a school in the Bronx and I asked each of them what they wanted to be when they got older. In my mind I knew half the class would say pro athlete but I wasn’t prepared when all but one in a class of about 20 8th graders said that. I’m like what? Stop playing. The perception that exists in the hood is that college and education and that civilized behavior is somehow foreign. That you can get through life without having learned simple stuff like how having a bank account is a superior way of handling your money as opposed to a check cashing joint, that offering your seat on a train when you see a pregnant woman is an obvious thing to do, that shooting someone is not an acceptable way to deal with minor and mundane issues, that love does not make you weak, that taking responsibility for your actions is what makes you a grown-up, etc.

So no college is not some magic pill, plenty of people went to college and they are still despicable people (ex. Karl Rove) but lets not act like college is no big deal either. It matters.

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  • Charles Posted: Aug.22 at 1:38 pm
    Always liked his game.

  • Lucci Posted: Aug.22 at 1:41 pm
    Always a good read Khalid

  • Co Co Posted: Aug.22 at 1:54 pm
    I feel ya Khalid.

  • Tarzan Cooper Posted: Aug.22 at 1:56 pm
    khalid is right. A LOT of kids arent being taught how to be a man.

  • Cheryl Posted: Aug.22 at 2:10 pm
    Co-sign, Khalid. I could not have said it better. What worries me too, is that there’s a generation or two that don’t value learning for it’s own sake. As an ex-college professor, I had noticed over maybe the last 5-7 years that my students would only do what was necessary to pass and move on. They didn’t see education necessarily as a way to expand one’s knowledge base and to think critically about what is going on in the world. Instead the focus was on getting out and getting a high-paying job. Not necessarily knocking that, but as you’ve said, there’s a whole lot of learning not only about the world, but about yourself and your place in it that can be gleaned from going to college. We’re living in a time now where money and status and celebrity is valued above all else. So, that’s a long convoluted way to say that I’m not surprised that 8th graders would choose what they see is the avenue to success.

  • Douce Posted: Aug.22 at 2:21 pm
    im sad

  • Konate Posted: Aug.22 at 2:22 pm
    ya’ll better listen to this man, he knows what h’s talking bout!

  • H to the izzo Posted: Aug.22 at 2:24 pm
    Co-Sign Cheryl especially about the valuation of celebrity status

  • Jeronimo Posted: Aug.22 at 2:27 pm
    Nice piece, man.

  • Co Co Posted: Aug.22 at 2:28 pm
    The most disappointing thing to me is the fact that a lot of these young men who play ball in college come out without a degree. College is expensive as hell and there are a lot of people who want to go but simply can’t afford it. It irks the hell out of me when these kids get a free ride and they are no better prepared to get a job than they were the day they left highschool.

  • H to the izzo Posted: Aug.22 at 2:33 pm
    This is off topic,but it irks me that someone like Romeo Miller who could easily pay for college himself gets a scholarship merely as a publicity stunt

  • Co Co Posted: Aug.22 at 2:42 pm
    I haven’t seen Romeo play, but I heard he could ball. Maybe it wasn’t a publicity stunt. Time will certainly tell.

  • Cheryl Posted: Aug.22 at 2:43 pm
    I hear you Co Co. But look what happened to a player who wanted both: Morris Almond. He stayed 4 years, got a degree, then his stock went down because the pundits said he “stayed too long” and that he was too “close to his prime”. That was the craziest crap I’d heard during the draft process this year. What’s actually being said is you have to choose: degree or 1st round? Tim Duncan is the last player I can remember who did both and still made the lottery (as #1 no less). Where is the glorification of this brother? All we hear about is how boring he is. Shame.

  • white hot eboy Posted: Aug.22 at 2:44 pm
    Cheryl & Khalid are like, smart or something. I hate them for their excruciatingly huge brains and fancy wordplay. Bastards!!! Excellent piece and post respectively.

  • Free Vick Posted: Aug.22 at 2:46 pm
    Free vick

  • white hot eboy Posted: Aug.22 at 2:46 pm
    Co Co, Romeo is an average player at best. And good to see you back. I know you were here yesterday but….regardless.

  • H to the izzo Posted: Aug.22 at 2:47 pm
    The good guys will never get the recognition they deserve because people usually want to defend the contriversional figure to the death.People make excuses for the latter and mock the former,it’s f*ck but thats the way the world is turning

  • H to the izzo Posted: Aug.22 at 2:48 pm
    F*cked up*

  • Ben Osborne Posted: Aug.22 at 2:48 pm
    Khalid’s been dropping knowledge like this for a long time, but he was particularly verbose last week (a conversation with Konate and I that started, I believe, about Lil Wayne). In any event, it seemed like he had enough for a good column. Tragically, Eddie Griffin provided the impetus. Thanks, K.

  • Dennard Posted: Aug.22 at 2:54 pm
    That was a great read.

  • Dennard Posted: Aug.22 at 2:54 pm
    That was a great read.

  • Joel O's Posted: Aug.22 at 2:57 pm
    This probably sounds kiddy compared to all of you other guys, but I’m a 3rd year college student. Going to college, and spending 2 and a half years before that in military service has made a huge difference in my decision making and, well, “life” skills. Coming out of high school, it’s really natural to have a gung-ho “there’s nothing I can’t do!” attitude - which is good - but that often isn’t enough. Going to school helps…

  • Esco Posted: Aug.22 at 2:59 pm
    Truth all around.

  • Joel O's Posted: Aug.22 at 3:00 pm
    This also may be simplifying things a bit, but if you look at the guys who came out of high school, made it big in the NBA and are doing just fine - most notably Kobe, TMac, KG, Lebron and Dwight, one thing in common with them is they have, for the most part, been blessed with nurturing, supportive family and friends. I’d think that they were ready for the NBA because of this support group. For others who aren’t so lucky, they probably don’t have the maturity to handle the NBA yet - and for them, college would definitely be crucial in helping them deal with issues.

  • Tariq Posted: Aug.22 at 3:00 pm
    Khalid, I agree with you. All I’m saying is that the type of article that delves into this thing should not come on the DAY of the guy’s death, with his picture and name connected to a headline that smacks of sensationalism like “The Talent and the Temptation”. That strikes me as insensitive. If a sportswriter really wants to do a sober, careful examination of the topic, I’m all for it. If such an article where to run in the next SLAM, I would be very supportive. But for people to run to their laptops 54 seconds after the news breaks to come up with some “timely” article, as if it were a scoop, seems tasteless to me. give the grieving room to grieve.

  • Tariq Posted: Aug.22 at 3:01 pm
    if such an article *were to run…

  • Khalid Salaam Posted: Aug.22 at 3:11 pm
    Are you referring to the ESPN story? i scanned through it and yeah the timing is always a fator in these types of things.

  • Keith Posted: Aug.22 at 3:27 pm
    Good riddance…..
    Chalk another one up to natural selection.
    The guy spent his whole life making the lives of those around him miserable.
    One more overpaid, uncivilized, uneducated, incorrigible, irredeamable juvenile delinquent whode only skill in life is playing a game.
    Explain to me again why we should miss him.

  • Young Chris #3 Posted: Aug.22 at 3:32 pm
    Always a favorite to read, but Khalid stepped up and really touched on some key points that I’ve been struggling with internally the past few years, as I’ve been in college, commuting, still in the hood everyday, and seeing how little respect kids show to the concept of high school, let alone graduating and continuing education, it’s ridiculous. When I graduated high school, I took time off before applying to colleges, and I knew I’d have a hard time getting accepted cuz I really just F’ed around for the majority of those four years (around senior year, in my third school, I began to mature and take it more seriously), but it’s true, nobody’s really trying to go anywhere with school, they just want to make it to the L, and I’ve seen, and grew up with, ballers with serious game who were 12th men in college freshmen year and, realizing how hard it would be to make it to the L, left school. It’s crazy. I used to think it was funny that my high schools had signs posted throughout with a basketball player about to dunk, with the message about having something to fall back on in case the 1 in a million chance doesn’t happen to fall upon us. But it really was just a desperate attempt to let kids know that we need to get our heads straight. It’s good to dream, and I’m hoping to make it big in life too, but it’s not the end of the world if you try and fail. But when damn-near 90% of urban/minority youth either wants to be a ballplayer or rapper, with a fallback plan of hustlin on the block, we see that the future is hurt.

  • Tarzan Cooper Posted: Aug.22 at 3:39 pm
    joel o, what about amare? he had the craziest high school career, and millions of haters, but what did he do?

  • white hot eboy Posted: Aug.22 at 3:42 pm
    Young Chris #3, as an “old-head” around here, I’m pretty sure you WILL be a future leader in some form with your attitude and thoughts on today’s youth. It’s nice to read a young man’s thought’s on his future and see someone who has perspective on what “real” life is all about. You have a fan in me. And there’s a lot of real wisdom floating around here if you ever need some advice from one us (I know I won’t be alone in that statement). Not that you need it from some faceless posters, but believe you me, it’s hard going through life without having someone telling you what you “should” do, but it becomes a lot easier when someone offers you an idea of what you “could” do. Props to you.

  • white hot eboy Posted: Aug.22 at 3:45 pm
    Damn, I just sounded like a dad there. My son would be proud.

  • Tariq Posted: Aug.22 at 3:48 pm
    Yeah Khalid, the Adande story on ESPN. The only objection I have is that it’s a story which tries to deal with a serious issue with, at least from my perspective, a sensationalist slant. But I agree with the content pretty much.

  • Tariq Posted: Aug.22 at 3:50 pm
    That being said, remarks like some that have been made here have been way out of line…I mean “Good riddance”? Really? How callous a pr*ck do you have to be about someone who just died today. Sorry who the dentist just determined that he died today.

  • Tarzan Cooper Posted: Aug.22 at 4:18 pm
    kids dont value education, and, for the most part, there’s nobody to tell them how important it is.

  • Ryu Posted: Aug.22 at 4:25 pm
    It was interesting reading this piece as a European. Articles like this is why I love SLAM*** mag (among other great stuff). Grats Khalid.

  • dblizzy! Posted: Aug.22 at 4:31 pm
    Yeah I can’t believe what jerks some people are. But I guess the comment section is for you to speak your mind… even if you don’t have one.

  • Sam Rubenstein Posted: Aug.22 at 4:37 pm
    If you’ve got problems with the education system I suggest going to this site:
    http://www.edin08.com/AboutUs.aspx
    Complaining about how badly things suck while theraputic, doesn’t change things.

  • Cheryl Posted: Aug.22 at 4:52 pm
    Sam, thanks for the heads up.

  • H to the izzo Posted: Aug.22 at 4:55 pm
    I hate people who speak their mind like its some sort of achievement,yes you speak your mind,well done,a lot of people have like Hitler and the Cookie monster,people speaking your mind isn’t an achievement when all thats on your mind is “Kill Jews” or “Cookie,Cookie,Cookie!!”.Sorry for the rant.

  • Hoop Dreamz Posted: Aug.22 at 4:59 pm
    As a player at a small, black college where we received little to no scholarship money, I’m sad to say most of our guys were just as ill-prepared for non-basketball-life as big-time college cats. Most of my teammates who did graduate either didn’t play all four years, spent six years in school f*ckin up or transfered somewhere else to finish. I’m from Toronto and I traveled to far to pay for more than four years of school so I left the team after my soph. year. I’m proud as hell of the four-year players who graduated in four. I want to put their names here, but I’d be putting the ones who didn’t make it on blast. It’s not their fault or even our program’s fault… I guess the only thing Khalid didn’t say in his story is who’s to blame for this attitude. Wikked story Khaled.

  • Tarzan Cooper Posted: Aug.22 at 5:05 pm
    We hope that candidates will offer genuine leadership rather than empty rhetoric and tell voters how they intend to strengthen America’s schools so all students receive the education they deserve. –from sams link—- they’re hoping presendential candidantes will be genuine, that is some of the saddest $hit you will ever read. hoping for a politician to be genuine about anything, let alone education, is as big a waste of time as trying to clean the grand canyon with a toothbrush.

  • Big L Posted: Aug.22 at 5:24 pm
    Great article Khalid.

  • paige Posted: Aug.22 at 5:25 pm
    nice work khalid, love your columns.
    but come on, “kobe ended up fine”?! i beg to differ…

  • Khalid Salaam Posted: Aug.22 at 5:28 pm
    lol paige

  • Tariq Posted: Aug.22 at 5:31 pm
    Yeah, co-sign, paige.

  • Joel O's Posted: Aug.22 at 5:39 pm
    @Tarzan: True, that. Like I said, I’m admittedly simplifying things somewhat. Yeah, Amare DID have a hell of a high school career. At the same time, maybe he found another source to keep him on the right path ever since he came to the league: religion, perhaps? I think that definitely helped him recover from his knee surgery… and grow as a person, too. Emotional, spiritual, educational support - be it from a high school, college, mosque, church group, sports team, whatever - that’s just very important to anyone growing up.

  • d.Y. Posted: Aug.22 at 5:40 pm
    that’s right sam. sam cooke lied to us, a change don’t come, we’ve gotta make it. lobbying for reform in the way the govt perceives and treats schools isn’t enough though. one of the things i like about bloomberg here in nyc is his approach to privatizing schools. private schools are not just for the rich. third party 501c3 organizations can apply for various government and private grants that are often inaccessible to the boe.

  • Joel O's Posted: Aug.22 at 5:43 pm
    Haha paige. Kobe ended up fine… he uh, works hard!

  • Tariq Posted: Aug.22 at 5:57 pm
    Maybe everything I hated about Adande’s “Talent and Temptation” piece will become clearer when contrasted with its polar opposite. Something Flea wrote, which I will quote in its entirety: i am compelled to write a blog today
    to comment on the tragic passing of eddie griffin
    just really makes me wish that he could have gotten help and been ok
    god bless his soul At this point, this is the limit of what should be discussed about Eddie Griffin in my opinion. Forgo including him in a study about how ill-equipped some young men are to deal with the NBA at least until Karl Rove leaves.

  • H to the izzo Posted: Aug.22 at 5:58 pm
    Flea=Class
    Adande=Opportunistic a$$hole
    The Chillis are my favorite for a reason
    And Abbot described Adande’s column as excellent.Idiot

  • Tariq Posted: Aug.22 at 5:58 pm
    Just to clarify, the Flea part ends with “god bless his soul”. You can probably tell from the absence of capitalization.

  • Sam Rubenstein Posted: Aug.22 at 6:03 pm
    all roads lead to Kobe, even this one.
    I suppose every single politician that has ever ran for office has made promises about education and how important the children are to them, and then they move on to other things once they’re in office. But the idea is to hold them to their promises. How? That is not an easy question to answer. KOBE!

  • Co Co Posted: Aug.22 at 6:08 pm
    Cheryl I hear you about the ones who want both, if they have the talent to get out early then that’s cool make it happen. I’m not even really talking about what the article is about. I’m just saying athletes that get a free ride and do nothing with it irk the hell out of me. The article is great though Khalid. I think its a shame that a lot of young men feel the only way out is rappin or hoopin’. That’s what we’re up against though because instead of glorifying teachers and lawyers and etc. we glorify famous people.

  • Tariq Posted: Aug.22 at 6:27 pm
    I’m surprised nobody has mentioned “Either you slang crack rock/ Or you got a wicked jump shot”. Until now.

  • Captain America Posted: Aug.22 at 6:36 pm
    Let’s may our respects and move on. I suspect Eddie would have liked that.

  • Melissa Brennan Posted: Aug.22 at 7:53 pm
    Well put Khalid. I really enjoyed your column today and I always look forward to them.

  • Khalid Salaam Posted: Aug.22 at 9:08 pm
    Thank you Mellissa

  • John D Posted: Aug.22 at 9:26 pm
    Very well said, Khalid. It’s amazing to me how so many people were criticizing Adande in the comments section of the other post and not even giving any explanation why, instead just calling him an “asshole” or whatever else. I swear some people on here just blindly hate on anything and everything ESPN does no matter what. Don’t get me wrong, I agree with a lot of the ESPN criticism, like the ridiculous “Who’s Now” and all that BS, but why would you call Adande an asshole and then not even explain what you didn’t like about the column? I think he had more than a few good points in his column.

  • Ryan Jones Posted: Aug.22 at 9:54 pm
    Khalid, I can’t believe I left the office early today and didn’t get to chime in on this til now… But since you asked: Your points are mad valid, but my beef with Adande’s column is that he doesn’t acknowledge that in THIS PARTICULAR CASE, there is no reason to believe EG was anything other than a messed up kid with serious, apparently life-long emotional issues, and that while getting relatively rich and famous may not have helped him work out those issues, staying poor and anonymous probably wasn’t going to help either. Of COURSE going to school and getting a degree is in the best interests of most people, particularly those for whom higher education is almost literally their only ticket out of poverty. But it seems incredibly unlikely that Eddie was that guy — is there a chance in hell that a guy like him would’ve been in college in the first place if he wasn’t so good at basketball? That’s why Adande’s piece p*ssed me off — I don’t think anyone with half a brain would argue that it’s in the long-term best interests of most 19-year-olds to finish college for the classroom education and emotional development that the process of earning a diploma can deliver. But to use THIS situation as an example of how kids skipping college or leaving early is so bad is foul. Put another way: Did he write a similar story about four-year college grads after Vin Baker and Lonny Baxter threw away their lives and very nearly their careers?

  • ty akins Posted: Aug.22 at 10:00 pm
    good article i hope this reach alot of young people r.i.p. eddie u will be missed

  • Dan Posted: Aug.23 at 12:28 am
    On point article Khalid. Although Co Co, don’t you think some post secondary education is at least somewhat important? I feel as though, although completing a degree is far better, at least a year or two in college plays a large role in any person’s maturation process.

  • Tariq Posted: Aug.23 at 7:37 am
    I agree with Ryan. Also, besides the fact that Eddie Griffin is probably not representative of the problems he’s discussing, at least not completely, the mere fact that they’re tying Eddie to articles about the ills of fame at this particular time seems wrong to me.

  • Khalid Salaam Posted: Aug.23 at 10:03 am
    Ryan, I hear you man.

  • Goody Posted: Aug.23 at 11:07 am
    Kidz are out of control and a lot has to do with the ignorance in the household. I mentor at least 500 kids a year and the apple does not fall far from the tree. Khalid, the community use to raise us back in the day not the government or public schools. Bill Cosby hit nail on the head with some of his comments about us as a people but not many want to be accountable for society and what they put in it. If you have a child who is socially or morally insufficient question yourself. If you don’t allow for Ms. X to discipline your kid when he’s acting up down the street then don’t complain when he’s in juvenile detention a year later. Stop listening to these doctors and teachers about your child needing medicine for his behavior. A foot in the crack works just as good. We are so point the finger and money driven in the American culture, its pathetic. That boy clearly had problems and money can’t fix everything. Somebody saw, somebody knew, somebody heard and nobody saved him. Money is the root of all evil and it put on an Oscar Award winning performance in life of Eddie Griffin. Its so easy to be jaded and misled but all parties involved are to blame and not the system.

  • Allenp Posted: Aug.23 at 11:08 am
    Yo good point Ryan. Nobody ever says going to college screwed up somebody’s life when they screw up, yet when players dont’ finish or college that’s the cause of all their pain and suffering. Khalid is right about the need for education to be stressed more, but I’m not sure going to college as a big time athlete is going to prepare you for the real world either. They don’t really have the standard college experience.

  • Old School Baller Posted: Aug.23 at 3:13 pm
    This is a very well written article that has been long overdue. Too bad it was written after the fact and no red flags were raised when Eddie was either announcing his decision to enter the draft or after he had just entered the NBA. Nothing can ruin a young man faster than car, money, or a woman before he is ready for it . . . and these teenage professional ball players have all three. I think the real takeaway from all of this is what can the current kids who will leave college early learn from this saga? You are right on again about the proliferation of shady AAU teams. However, there are AAU programs out there that stress education and operate based on the spirit of which AAU was created. One program in particular is called the New York Shock Exchange (www.newyorkshockexchange.com), a youth mentorship and travel basketball team which also teaches kids the fundamentals (p/e ratio, earnings growth rate, etc.) of investing. Understanding how to save and invest money is a valuable life skill. In fact, the kids even run their own fund based on their own investment ideas and which they performed their own due diligence on. What the kids have done and are doing in this area is nothing short of amazing! Last August the kids suggested several stocks, and based on fundamentals and their own research, narrowed the list down to two - GameStop and Apple. Since then GameStop has generated an 82% return and Apple a 112% return. The fundamental analysis and observations from the kids is chronicled on the website. While so many AAU programs are criticized, I think a bigger impact could be made by applauding those programs which, instead of giving lip service, are actually educating our kids. I implore you to visit http://www.newyorkshockexchange.com for evidence.

  • apaul Posted: Aug.23 at 10:58 pm
    khalid, you brought the heat. well done.

  • Froggiestyle Posted: Aug.29 at 4:17 am
    Thanks for the great article. I always look forward to hearing your take on things. Hope to see more soon (I hate to nitpick, but please proof this great article, it’s got some silly errors that don’t do you or the subject justice - I’m just sayin…)

  • B. Lee Posted: Sep.4 at 5:19 pm
    Kudos on the article!!

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