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Thoughts on Bob Knight and the ongoing NCAA season

This is big news, deserves Shaq trade-like coverage

By Adam Fleischer

As far as midseason stories go, this one’s pretty big.

Late Monday, we found out that Texas Tech coach Bob Knight would be resigning, effective immediately, midway through this season. This is a notable story for a couple of evident reasons—namely that Knight has the most wins for a coach in NCAA Men’s basketball history (902), and that coaches rarely leave their teams in the middle of the season. To me, these factors definitely make this turn a bit surprising, even if many did think he would move on after the season.

Dick Vitale wrote that Knight lost his desire to teach and the urge to coach. Reading this really struck me. Although I’m not a huge fan of Knight’s coaching tactics, his energetic antics through the years have been well documented and, even in recent years, his passion seems to have been there. There are certainly other factors that played a role in his decision, including that his son Pat (pictured with Coach Knight, photo: AP) now gets a head start on coaching a team that he was likely going to take over at seasons end anyways. I’m not questioning the reasoning, simply stating my surprise. Fatigue is one thing. Loss of passion is a whole different story, and I didn’t see that kind of turn coming from Knight’s direction.

Reasons for retirement and coaching methodology aside, there’s no denying what Bob Knight accomplished in his 42-year coaching career. After starting at Army (where he coached Mike Krzyzewski), he spent 29 years at Indiana, winning three championships, and rounded out his career with nearly seven full seasons with the Red Raiders. He won hundreds of games, coached a lot of talented players, created a great deal of controversy, was elected to the Hall of Fame in 1991, and even had his own TV show (remember Knight School?). Exactly how he is remembered remains to be seen and, quite frankly, might not matter that much. After all, he won. There’s no way around that and, at the end of the day, that’s all that really matters (see: New York Giants).

Knight’s resignation is the latest headline in a set of notable stories that surfaced in the days since I last checked in a little over a week ago. We can put to rest any thoughts of Kansas’ undefeated season, as they were downed by Michael Beasley-led in-state rival Kansas State last Wednesday. The Jayhawks have bounced back nicely, handily beating Colorado and Missouri in their last two games. Kansas State, who looked good in surpassing the previously unscathed Jayhawks, may have gotten into a little groove. The team’s three leaders in per game averages of scoring and minutes (Beasley, Bill Walker, and Jacob Pullen) are all freshmen, so it’ll be no shock if the squad continues to improve as they get more experience playing together. However, they already experienced one bump in the road. It could have been some sort of hangover from the big Kansas victory, maybe it was the inexperience showing, or maybe it was neither, but the fact remains that Kansas State fell to a Missouri team depleted by suspensions in their very next contest. Despite the outcome of this game, K State still must be taken seriously with only one Big 12 loss while Mizzou, missing multiple key pieces, is bound to see continued struggles.

One team that is having somewhat of a combined experience of the Wildcats and Tigers is the UConn Huskies. After losing three out of four in early January, the team has won five straight, even though guards Jerome Dyson and Doug Wiggins were suspended for some of the time (although Wiggins has been since reinstated). The sophomore guards—Dyson is a starter and Wiggins contributes off the bench—were caught with alcohol on campus and are both minors. This has proven not to be a distraction for the Huskies, who have compiled wins over Marquette, Indiana, and Pittsburg (all ranked), as well as Louisville and Cincinnati since January 20.

I particularly like the UConn story and team because starting forward Jeff Adrien is from Brookline, a town that borders the part of Boston that I grew up in (but yes, I am a Giants fan). He’s two years older than I am and I remember going to see him play a number of times in high school when he was regarded as one of the best players in the state. For some reason, though, I was never that impressed. Looking back, I was partially a hater by nature, partially a hater because my boys who went to school in that town loved him and my school had no one of the caliber, and partially a hater because I didn’t think his game as an undersized four man without much range or ball handling skill could translate to a big time Division 1 level. Since his arrival on campus, though, Adrien’s been proving me wrong and I’ve been thrilled to watch. His weaknesses have improved and his intensity, rebounding, and defense have all remained on point. This year, he’s averaging 14 and 9 as an important part of a well-balanced UConn attack. If Adrien continues to get his, big man Hasheem Thabeet keeps improving, and A.J. Price plays like he has been, then expect UConn to rack up some more W’s and maybe once again scare some people come March.

A few other thoughts on things that probably deserve more space than I’m giving them:

Before bouncing back against Northwestern on Sunday, Indiana suffered back-to-back losses to UConn and Wisconsin.

Stanford beat Washington State on Saturday, further blurring the picture of the best team out west.

In case you haven’t heard anything about Drake yet this season, now is the time. The Bulldogs haven’t lost since the second game of the season (at ranked Saint Mary’s) and lead their conference by three games. If they’re really that good isn’t quite a definitive “yes,” but there’s a real chance they might be. Watch out.

Wednesday night at 9, Duke takes on North Carolina at the Dean Dome. This game pits a pair of one-loss teams and bitter rivals up against one another and should be a great one to watch. Also of note is that UNC PG Ty Lawson might be kept out by an ankle sprain, an injury which will certainly impact the game whether he’s able to go or not. Hopefully we’ll learn more about each of these teams by the end of the game. Look out for some post game thoughts the following morning.

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24 Responses to “Thoughts on Bob Knight and the ongoing NCAA season”

Feb.6 at 1:37 pm

DP says:
Bob really wanted the record because if he didn’t care, he would have retired last year. Now that victory is his, he can give the team to his son who really has coached the team the past couple of years. I am not a Duke hater so I will pick Duke tonight because if Lawson is not avaible, Paulus will chew up Quentin Thomas. DUKIES RULE BABY! play wit it.

Feb.6 at 1:44 pm

H to the izzo says:
I can’t look past a UNC win here,bottom line is that this will be won on the inside,Hansbrough is too much for anyone Duke will throw at him(especially Zoubek),Lawson’s injury is obviously a problem but I think UNC are just too much for Duke.

Feb.6 at 1:46 pm

Russ Bengtson says:
Bobby Knight will forever be remembered as a bully, a hypocrite and a quitter. He may have the all-time NCAA wins record, but he’ll NEVER have the respect of a John Wooden or a Dean Smith. Eat it, Knight.

Feb.6 at 1:47 pm

Myles Brown says:
Someone shouldve thrown a chair at him on the way out the door.

Feb.6 at 1:53 pm

H to the izzo says:
He basically had his retirement party last year,he sung “My Way” and everything.Why he continued on I’ll never know,it was clear he lost interest in coaching even before he reached 902.Enjoy retirement Bob,I hope you never encounter any of the players you coached ever again..

Feb.6 at 2:01 pm

Russ Bengtson says:
I probably should have said “…he’ll NEVER have the respect accorded a…”

Feb.6 at 2:01 pm

Gabe Berkowitz says:
I love Bobby Knight almost as much as I love Adam Fleischer

Feb.6 at 2:03 pm

Adam Fleischer says:
And he shouldn’t have that respect, either. Never understood why players would want to play for him or how someone who is so clearly a straight up jerk seems to have the respect of so many, regardless of what kind of basketball mind he is.

Feb.6 at 2:25 pm

Russ Bengtson says:
I can sort of understand some people wanting the boot camp mentality (or at least some parents wanting it for their children). Isiah Thomas came through it no worse for wear. Um, unless his current actions are some sort form of Post-Knight Stress Disorder. But it’s true that Indiana didn’t produce many NBA talents. Calbert Cheaney was a disappointment. Who were his biggest successes after Isiah? Alan Henderson? Um…I can’t think of anybody else.

Feb.6 at 2:33 pm

jbn74sb says:
Damon Bailey.

Feb.6 at 2:35 pm

Adam Fleischer says:
Oh, wow.

Feb.6 at 3:03 pm

Ryan Jones says:
Great coach, Adam, but he hasn’t been relevant for years. I think that explains the underwhelming response. Beyond that, just glad to have someone else on this site talking college hoops.

Feb.6 at 3:12 pm

jbn74sb says:
I don’t think it’s just his basketball mind people respect. The people that like Knight seem to love him. The guy obviously has a terrible temper, and that gets all the press. But at the same time, so many of his colleagues, former assistants, and former players love him that it is equally obvious that the media never covered the whole story with him.
Lawrence Funderburke.

Feb.6 at 3:15 pm

Myles Brown says:
Anyone who can claim Randy Wittman as a disciple, I have my questions about…

Feb.6 at 3:55 pm

Russ Bengtson says:
I wish he had passed the job on to his other son, Suge.

Feb.6 at 5:42 pm

Cub Buenning says:
Bodie,
Have you ever read John Feinstein’s Season on the Brink? Funderburke went to THE Ohio st.
Russ, the DRow joke is pretty funny. Could you see those two? Egos larger than life! Prof., what happened in W. Lafayette last night? Did the Claxton-less ‘Lions realize they were who we thought they were?

Feb.6 at 6:27 pm

Ben Osborne says:
Thanks, Adam.

Feb.6 at 6:27 pm

Ben Osborne says:
Dane Fife.

Feb.6 at 6:42 pm

Cub Buenning says:
Keith Smart

Feb.6 at 6:46 pm

Cub Buenning says:
Uwe Blab.

Feb.6 at 8:54 pm

jbn74sb says:
I’ll answer for you, Cub, courtesy of good old wikipedia:
“He played his freshman year of college basketball at Indiana University, but transferred after that season to Ohio State University, where he played his three remaining years of eligibility and eventually graduated.”

Feb.6 at 9:22 pm

Cub Buenning says:
i forgot that Bodie…. Bird went there for a second too, but i wouldn’t consider him a product of Knight.
i repeat, Uwe Blab, no joke.

Feb.7 at 2:18 pm

Nathalie says:
i thought it got decent coverage, but i did mourn silently…

Feb.7 at 8:33 pm

Bobby Knight says:
I don’t want anyone else writing about me besides this Adam Fleischer. He’s the real deal damnit.

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