The Post Up: Welcome to LeBron’s World
Golden State stops the Hornets, Raptors rout Wizards and Iverson leads Denver.
By: Holly MacKenzie
Okay, first item of business. That LeBron dunk…. Of the year?! Holy Hell. Nevermind Amare and his Black Jesus, LeBron is the one playing otherworldly. To break it down: Bron is where its at. He’s GOT to get rid of that dirty mouth guard habit though. Even greatness can be gross.
But seriously, can we talk about him for just another minute? We are watching something special. The game is just too easy for him when he wants it to be. That final possession for Cleveland? So smooth, so effortless, so easy. What a game, performance, year, talent. LeBron James is it. I will stop gushing now but, damn!
You know it killed Pat Riley, racking up another loss to Stan Van Gundy. Rough. Funny how things work out like that. The Magic almost let an easy victory slip out of their hands.
Is it just me, or is Baron looking ridiculously ripped lately? More so than usual, I mean.
Chris Paul and Davis were fun tonight. Monta was playing out of his mind again. That Baron three with 3:20 left in the game was just ridic. How many feet behind the arc was he?
Raptors crushed the Wizards last night. It was ugly. Get well, Caron.
Darko with 14 points, 16 rebounds and 5 blocks… I’m just saying…What?!
This crazy flu season appears to have hit the NBA hard this year. It looks like every team has had it’s share of dealing with it and last night there were men down all over the place with “flu-like symptoms” and the Knicks lost two of the guys during the game. Gross stuff.
Looks like the league thought Renaldo Balkman’s elbow to Vujacic’s face was a little much as well because Balkman was handed a one game suspension for the move. He served the suspension in the Knicks loss to Utah last night.
What a horrible game between Milwaukee and Philadelphia last night. It was even worse than the Raptors/Wizards blowout.
I still can’t believe that LeBron alley oop. Excuse me while I kiss the sky. The guy can jump. Eyes peeking over the rim, ridiciulous! Yes, I love Kobe but, day by day I am finding it harder and harder to find fault in Bron’s game.
Big 20-20 performance from Brad Miller last night. Throw in 5 assists and 3 blocks and it was a good night for the Kings.
Toronto 122 Washington 83
One night after dropping a disappointing overtime loss in Washington to the Butler-less Wizards, the Raptors had a complete turnaround on their home floor and annihilated Washington 122-83. Thanks to connecting on 13-18 three-pointers and having a second quarter where they outscored the Wizards 33-18, the game was a blowout by halftime with the Raptors leading 61-41. Their lead would only grow in the second half as Toronto had six players reach double-figures and they were able to play their bench for extended minutes while their starters enjoyed the view from the sidelines. Andrea Bargnani led with 19 points, Chris Bosh had 16 points, Anthony Parker scored 15 and Juan Dixon added 12. Jose Calderon had 11 points and 11 assists with only one turnover. DeShawn Stevenson led Washington with 16 points, Andray Blatche had 12 points and 7 rebounds and Roger Mason scored 14. Antawn Jamison was held to only 11 points in the loss.
Philadelphia 112 Milwaukee 69
From beginning to end, the Philadelphia 76er’s throttled Milwaukee last night, winning the game by a 43-point margin. After going up by nine points at the end of the first quarter, the 76er’s outscored Milwaukee by at least 10 in each of the remaining three quarters of the game as they went up by a score of 51-32 at the half. Things went further downhill for the Bucks after the break as they managed only 37 points in the entire second half while Philadelphia had 35 points in the fourth quarter alone. While Philly shot 54% from the floor the Bucks came in at only 38%. Andre Iguodala had 18 points to lead the 76er’s while Andre Miller and Thaddeus Young added 14 points apiece. Reggie Evans scored 13 points to go with 9 rebounds as Sam Dalembert and Rodney Carney each had 12. Royal Ivey had 17 points for the Bucks who were sorely missing the shooting touch of Michael Redd, missing in action again with that knee strain. Mo Williams scored 14 points and Charlie Villanueva added 10 in the loss.
Denver 106 Memphis 102
In a battle of depleted teams the nine-man roster of the Grizzlies fell just short to the ten-man crew for Denver last night, dropping a 106-102 decision at home despite being up by seven with just three minutes remaining in the game. Denver was without Carmelo Anthony who recovered from an ankle sprain while Memphis was missing Pau Gasol and Mike Conley Jr. due to injuries and Stromile Swift because of a team-suspension. The first half of the game was a close one with Denver leading 54-52 at the break. In the third, the teams traded leads and tied things up more than once before Memphis would go up by five heading into the fourth and extending that lead to seven in the final minutes. When it came down to the wire Denver was solid, holding Memphis scoreless as they went on a 12-0 run to take control of the game. During the stretch, Denver had three-pointers from Anthony Carter and Linas Kleiza while Iverson knocked down all six of his free throws in the final 23 seconds of the game to clinch the win despite Rudy Gay’s 30-point, 10-rebound effort for Memphis. Iverson finished with 32 points, 12 assists and 4 steals while Carter had 18 points and Marcus Camby added 13 points, 19 rebounds and 5 blocked shots. Kleiza added 15. Besides Gay’s 30 points, Mike Miller had 22 points and 9 rebounds, Darko Milicic had 14 points, 16 boards and 5 blocks, and Kyle Lowry added 19.
Utah 100 New York 89
A quick start was all the Jazz needed to go on to their sixth straight victory last night. That they were facing a Knicks team who had played the night before didn’t hurt either. Leading 26-18 after the first period, the Jazz led the entire way through going up by as many as 17 before letting the Knicks trim their deficit down to seven points in the final minutes. Carlos Boozer and Deron Williams would respond for Utah and the Jazz would stave off the New York run to take the victory. New York was shorthanded as they lost Eddy Curry and Quentin Richardson in the first quarter with flu-like symptoms. Boozer finished with 17 points and rebounds while Deron Williams had 22 points and 12 assists and Paul Millsap scored 15. Mehmet Okur had 12 points and 11 rebounds and Andrei Kirilenko added 11 points. Jamal Crawford had 26 points and 9 assists to lead New York while Zach Randolph had 23 points and 8 rebounds. David Lee had 14 points and 12 rebounds and Jared Jeffries added 10 in the loss.
Orlando 107 Miami 91
Facing a Miami team that was without Dwyane Wade, Shaquille O’Neal and Udonis Haslem proved harder than the Magic might have thought. While Orlando led for most of the game the Heat put together a push early in the fourth to cut the Magic lead down to 83-80 after rookie Daequan Cook hit a jumper with 11 minutes remaining. After getting within three the Heat would not get any closer as Orlando surveyed the situation and reeled off an 18-1 run to regain control and come away with the win. The Magic had 52 rebounds as compared to only 29 from the undersized Heat in the contest and they outscored them 24-15 in the final quarter on their way to the victory. Hedo Turkoglu finished with a game high 27 points to go with 12 rebounds and 5 assists as Dwight Howard had 16 points, 13 rebounds and 4 blocked shots. Rashard Lewis scored 19 points and Maurice Evans added 13. Miami was led by Ricky Davis and his 21 points as Luke Jackson and Chris Quinn added 14 points apiece. Jason Williams had 11 points and 8 assists and Dorell Wright added 12 points.
Sacramento 105 Charlotte 91
With a close first half in the books and a 55-52 halftime lead, the Sacramento Kings used a strong third quarter to take control in their 105-91 victory against the Bobcats last night. outscoring the Bobcats 29-16 in the period, the Kings took an 84-68 advantage into the fourth. While Charlotte would cut the lead down to seven points early in the fourth, the Kings responded and stretched the lead back into double-digits, where it would stay until the buzzer sounded. Brad Miller had 22 points and a career-high 21 points to go along with 5 assists and 3 blocked shots to lead Sacramento. Kevin Martin also scored 22 points as Ron Artest added 21 and Mikki Moore had 10 points to go with 8 rebounds. Gerald Wallace had 25 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 steals and a block in the loss for the Bobcats while Raymond Felton had 16 points and 7 assists, Jason Richardson scored 11 and Emeka Okafor had a 13-point, 15-rebound double-double.
LA Clippers 95 Atlanta 88
The Clippers owe this victory to rookie Al Thorton. In addition to scoring a career-high 33 points, Thorton blocked a layup attempt by Acie Law to protect the Clipper lead after they watched helplessly as the Hawks went on a 19-2 run in the fourth to come back from 20 down. After a three-point play by Josh Smith the score sat at 91-88 with 46 seconds to go. While the Clippers would miss on their next possession, Thorton blocked the layup by Law, Joe Johnson’s jumper fell short and the Clippers made their free throws in the final seconds to protect their victory. It was a big moral victory for the Clippers who had only nine players available for the game and missed both, leading scorer Corey Maggette and leading rebounder Chris Kaman with the flu. Thorton’s 33 points off of the bench led all scorers in the game as LA had 14 points apiece from Tim Thomas and Sam Cassell as well as 12-point performances from Cuttino Mobley and Quinton Ross. Josh Smith led Atlanta with 21 points, 10 rebounds, 8 assists and 3 steals while Johnson finished with 17. Al Horford had 14 points and 10 rebounds and Josh Childress added 14 as well.
Golden State 116 New Orleans 103
After knocking down five three-pointers and lifting his team to a victory, Baron Davis was smiling as the boos rained down upon him and his Warriors in New Orleans. Stopping the Hornets’ nine-game winning streak, the Warriors bounced back from a loss in Houston the night before. After leading by four early into the fourth, Golden State went on one of their typical runs to extend their advantage to 13 points midway through the quarter. While the Hornets would stick around continuing to threaten, after Davis hit a long three with 3:21 remaining the game was all but sealed for the Warriors who connected on 13-27 three-pointers in the game. Stephen Jackson led the way offensively with 26 points as Davis added 23 points to go with his 9 assists, Matt Barnes had 17 points and Monta Ellis added 16 points, 9 rebounds and 7 assists. Chris Paul had 28 points, 12 assists and 2 steals for New Orleans while David West had 24 points 13 rebounds and 5 blocked shots and Peja Stojakovic scored 20 points to go with his 10 rebounds. Tyson Chandler added 11 points and 14 rebounds in the loss.
Cleveland 84 Portland 83
Another front row fan heckling LeBron James meant another fourth quarter takeover and the Trailblazers losing in an 84-83 contest where James was the likely hero. While Portland led by 14 points early in the second half of their contest, the Cavaliers cut the lead in the fourth behind LeBron’s 17 points in the final period as they held Portland to only 15 as a team. It was after he had two shots blocked by Portland’s Joel Przybilla that James would begin his tear, knocking down three consecutive three-pointers to tie the game at 81 with two and a half left to play. After Travis Outlaw hit a shot to keep Portland ahead the Blazers would not score again and a made free throw by Drew Gooden coupled with two Portland misses set the scene for James to cap off his night in dramatic fashion with some game-winning heroics. With 5.9 seconds remaining on the clock James got the ball, drove to the basket and easily got the layup to go with .9 seconds remaining. It put the Cavs up one and gave them the victory. James finished with 37 points, 14 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals and 2 blocked shots as he was the only Cleveland player to reach double-figures. While Zydrunas Igauskas hauled down 13 rebounds, he scored only 7 points in the contest. Drew Gooden added 9 points and 7 rebounds. Brandon Roy finished with 16 points, 7 rebounds and 8 assists for Portland who also got a 16-point performance from LaMarcus Aldridge to go along with 9 rebounds. Steve Blake added 10 points and Outlaw finished with 13.
446 Responses to “The Post Up: Welcome to LeBron’s World”
Jan.31 at 9:37 am
Ryan Jones says:
Holly’s my friend. You can look it up.
Jan.31 at 9:39 am
white hot eboy says:
Holly, no one would be mad at you for finding a place in your heart for the Cavs, too.
Jan.31 at 9:40 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
hahahaha, Ryan my LeBron love is getting out of control. I cant contain it anymore. I am blaming YOU for this madness.
Jan.31 at 9:42 am
TADOne says:
Good morning Holly. LeBron took OVER in the 4th last night! He hit like three straight 3 pointers. And that drive to end the game was crazy. You would think they would run a double team at LeBron and force someone else to make a play?!
Jan.31 at 9:43 am
Ryan Jones says:
I spent last night switching between my two favorite players: Bron in Portland and young Mr. Love at Oregon State on FCS-Pacific. I went to bed around 11, with the Cavs getting hammered and LeBron all gimpy, and UCLA up 20 late second half (I think Kevin had four assists from outlet passes under his own basket. Seriously). It wasn’t until this morning that I realized A) Bron once again dominated late and the short-handed Cavs came back to win, and B) the UCLA-OSU game was a replay from four days ago. Oh well.
Jan.31 at 9:44 am
DP says:
LeBron is that dude that makes me wish I could jump. back in fourth grade I was jumping sky high, but as the years go on I feel like I am so past my prime. Damn you LeBron. Damn you! play wit it.
Jan.31 at 9:44 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
You can’t let Bron finish the game on a drive… too strong. too talented. too good. Damn my love affair with this man’s game has skyrocketed since last night.
Jan.31 at 9:44 am
white hot eboy says:
Are we going to have THIS conversation again or should we all just give him the title now instead of waiting “for the future”. He is making it look routine, which is a sign of one thing=takeover.
Jan.31 at 9:45 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
aahaha your b) was hilarious, Jones. I can’t believe you missed that fourth. It’s worth watching if you can get the archive on nba.com
Jan.31 at 9:46 am
Ryan Jones says:
Glad I could help, Holly. Still plenty of room on the bandwagon.
Also, if I may beat Ben Osborne to the punch and railroad this post further into NCAA territory, props to Kansas State. Beasley was dope as expected, but how about Bill Walker putting up essentially the same line in 13 fewer minutes? Someday soon, if you haven’t already figured it out, you’ll understand why Slam’s been so high on Mr. Walker for so long.
Jan.31 at 9:46 am
white hot eboy says:
Between Lebron’s showcase and the Warriors/Hornets game, sh*t was off the hook last night in the league.
Jan.31 at 9:46 am
Ryan Jones says:
I will try to find a replay, but honestly? It’s like I’ve seen it so many times already over the past seven years…
Jan.31 at 9:47 am
TADOne says:
I also saw some of that Kansas-Kansas St game and I will confirm that Michael Beasley is a beast! That kid will be a star.
Jan.31 at 9:47 am
DP says:
Morale of the story is:Fans, please don’t make LeBron mad because that’s when he KILLS YOUR TEAM. I hope these people can learn before it’s too late. Bron will win around 6 MVP’s before this sh*t all said and done. play wit it.
Jan.31 at 9:48 am
Ryan Jones says:
Russ will be here shortly to discuss just how far off the hook the Chicago Bulls have fallen. I know I misused the phrase there, but you get my point.
Jan.31 at 9:48 am
Jared says:
Bill Walkers a killa! anybody see Bron talkin ish to B-Roy before the game last night. You knew from tip off it was gonna be all bron bron. Say he’s not the best! Say it!
Jan.31 at 9:49 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
I didn’t see the KS game, surprise, surprise. I need some ncaa coverage here in Canada, dammit. I did see the guys popping their jerseys though, and good for them. Eboy, the Warriors against CP3 and crew was great. It was a perfect night.
Jan.31 at 9:49 am
Ryan Jones says:
BTW, “Even greatness can be gross” is a line I wish I’d written. Good sh*t.
Jan.31 at 9:50 am
Ryne Nelson says:
@Ryan - The Bulls have fallen. I think it was funny, thre was n artcle in the Sun-Times yesterday headlined “Better than the worst.” Now, it should read, “Worst than the worst.” haha
Jan.31 at 9:50 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
I think the Bulls are thisclose to driving Russ mad. hahaah I’m looking forward to hearing what Myles has to say.
Jan.31 at 9:53 am
Ryne Nelson says:
@Jared - Kobe’s the best…but, please, let’s not get into it.
Jan.31 at 9:53 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
and I just heard there is a mfing storm warning for Toronto tomorrow. If mother nature messes with my day, I will LOSE it. Seriously, now I’m going to be on edge all damn day.
Jan.31 at 9:53 am
DP says:
Kansas=overrated as hell. Memphis=ncaa champions motherf*ckers. play wit it.
Jan.31 at 9:54 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
Thanks, Ryan. I love that guy, but I get chills when I think of that mouth guard.
Jan.31 at 9:55 am
Ryne Nelson says:
One dud was willing ot put money on the Bulls making the playoffs, and I didn’t take the bet. Figured Indiana and Atlanta were going to fall, and the Bulls were going to rise with Gordon, Deng , Joe Smith and Duhon returning. They’re the walking dead right now. There’s still hope for the playoffs.
Jan.31 at 9:55 am
Jared says:
DP you’re wylin…Ryne, agree to disagree…
Jan.31 at 9:55 am
TADOne says:
There were storms yesterday and last night around Detroit Holly. TO is probably getting the after effects of that.
Jan.31 at 9:56 am
white hot eboy says:
You guys just wait. Russ and I will take our lumps this season but when they both have a strong lottery pick next season, we’ll be back in full effect, brotherrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!! (Don’t mind me, I was listening to “Fear Of A Black Planet” on the way to work this morning.)
Jan.31 at 9:56 am
DP says:
Kobe is the best Ryne, but Bron is breathing down his back with a blow torch right about now man. play wit it.
Jan.31 at 9:57 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
Damn Tad. I’m not kidding. I don’t even want to imagine how tomorrow would go if I was stuck in an airport rather than the Laker locker room. Lakers are in Detroit tonight, too. I’m praying for some good weather because that just wouldn’t be funny.
Jan.31 at 9:58 am
Jared says:
TAD you really think Stuckey or Afflalo deserve to be on the rook team instead of any of the guys that are there?
Jan.31 at 9:58 am
Ryne Nelson says:
And what about Paul last night? Another great statistical night, but a sub par performance, otherwise. Baron had the better of the matchup in the bayou.
Jan.31 at 9:59 am
Ryne Nelson says:
@Jared - If Stuckey didn’t break his hand, yest. If Affalo played 20 minutes per game, yes. But the two biggest snubs of the Rook Team: Noah and Thorton.
Jan.31 at 10:01 am
Jared says:
Alright, but stuckey did break his hand, and afflalo doesn’t get the burn. Navarro was a fair pick. I think it would be way more exciting with the two d-town swings, but it’s not about that. Thorton was def snubbed. He gets no love…no love.
Jan.31 at 10:02 am
Ryne Nelson says:
I wanted some great duel between Diddy and Paul last night. But all we got was Baron backing down Paul for the dishout to Al, Monta or Jax. Nothing highlight-worthy, but still…daggers.
Jan.31 at 10:04 am
Ryne Nelson says:
Thorton’s dunk past Josh Smith > Parker’s three last night (well, sort of)
Jan.31 at 10:05 am
white hot eboy says:
Just my two cents on Lebron, last season I said if he could somehow pick up his “killer instinct” factor and start closing out games on the regular, he would take that next step to be on Kobe’s plateu. The jumper would come in time, I told myself as most great wing players do, and you know what, dude is there. He’s not behind Kobe in the least, at least at this moment in time. Dude’s team is winning ballgames, he’s owning the court and he is now THAT guy. If he shares the plateu with 24, then so be it, but he’s not a rung below. Don’t let the love of the Mamba cloud the King’s place in the game.
Jan.31 at 10:05 am
TADOne says:
Jared: Navarro hasn’t impressed me, and Conley was injured most of the season too. But it’s fine, not that worried about it.
Jan.31 at 10:06 am
Ryne Nelson says:
Baron was getting boos, which was surprising…New Orleans actually has fans.
Jan.31 at 10:08 am
Jared says:
Eboy, on the complete same page as you bro. Navarro’s been ballin hard TAD…Conley too. Stuck and Aaron don’t get the love tho cause they’re on that veteran team. Mainstream doesn’t really look past 1-6 on that team.
Jan.31 at 10:09 am
TADOne says:
I’ll actually add something on Bron too. His first couple seasons in the league I absolutely hated his jumper. He had a hitch in his shot and just always seemed to fall back on his shot instead of keeping his legs and feet under him. But watching him last night in the 4th hitting all those 3’s was a sight. His jumper has straightened out and was silk last night in the closing quarter.
Jan.31 at 10:09 am
Ryne Nelson says:
@tad - Navarro has been very good and very surprising. He looks and plays similar to a younger Calderon. The difference is he’s more of a pure shooter.
Jan.31 at 10:10 am
Keith says:
Lebron is Jordan-esque when fans hassle him.
Jan.31 at 10:11 am
Jared says:
I couldn’t believe his J was fallin like that in the 4th though. He’s a monster.
Jan.31 at 10:12 am
TADOne says:
Well, I must admit, I haven’t seen Memphis play much.
Jan.31 at 10:14 am
Ryne Nelson says:
You’re mising out on the worst white boy hair in the League, TAD. Miller’s Miller. Gasol and his dirty curls. And Navarro with his faux-hawk.
Jan.31 at 10:14 am
white hot eboy says:
And I know that people will say “well he missed 5 games due to a hurt finger” and “where’s his rings at?”. Well, those things have relevance, but he also made the Finals in his 4th season, with a garbage team, and he is now the unatural force in the league that only a couple of other guys in the history of the game can claim. That “oh sh*t, did you see him last night”. In my lifetime I’ve heard that about 3 other players, Michael, Magic and Shaq all in their primes. Kobe to a lesser degree (the 81 point game was the watershed moment for him). But the other three, it was almost nightly. Shaq tearing down backboards, Michael gettign 55 in the Garden two weeks back from his first retirement, Magic running sh*t from the center spot to win his first title. These are minor examples of what these guys would do. Lebron is doing that nightly now. And that’s scary.
Jan.31 at 10:15 am
Jared says:
He’s still only 23. Thats what’s even scarier.
Jan.31 at 10:17 am
white hot eboy says:
Yup.
Jan.31 at 10:17 am
Ryne Nelson says:
How about the Jazz really stepping it up a notch recently? New York was an easy W, but ballin’ over the Spurs the night before and the Rox before that. They’re riding a six-game win streak into February. I’m already marking my calendar: Paul vs. Deron, Feb. 4, Worthy of Yours.
Jan.31 at 10:20 am
Ryne Nelson says:
If LeBron played center for a night, I’d break down and consider him better than Mamba.
Jan.31 at 10:20 am
Jared says:
Yea no doubt Ryne, I wasn’t trashing Deron the other day, I know he’s an incredible player, but yet again, he’s really doing it under the radar. If hes in the East he’s most likely an all-star.
Jan.31 at 10:21 am
Jared says:
Bron was playin the 4 for a little bit last night, they had him on aldridge.
Jan.31 at 10:21 am
Jared says:
Any thoughts on CDR?
Jan.31 at 10:23 am
white hot eboy says:
Rynocerous, if I see Kobe play the 5 and dominate, I’ll give him the same respect I give Lebron.
Jan.31 at 10:24 am
Keith says:
Lebron James wouldn’t be the same player without his superhuman, freakish strength. He seems to be able to take the hard hits when driving to the rim and manages to finish.
Jan.31 at 10:24 am
white hot eboy says:
How have we all not talked about the possible trade scenario for Jason Kidd that was discussed last night?
Jan.31 at 10:26 am
Ryne Nelson says:
@Jared - You’re not talking about that cat on Memphis, are you?
Jan.31 at 10:27 am
Ryne Nelson says:
@Eboy - because most of these rumors come and go within minutes. There’s so much to sort through, it’s endless.
Jan.31 at 10:28 am
Keith says:
What was the Kidd related trade mentioned last night?
Jan.31 at 10:28 am
white hot eboy says:
Well since you are a ESPN disciple, Rynocerous, you should be use to that then.
Jan.31 at 10:28 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
if you are talking about the three-way with dallas and Portland… that is just crazy. If Portland messes with what they’ve got… for Devin Harris…….boooo to that.
Jan.31 at 10:30 am
Ryne Nelson says:
I’ve yet to see the Tigers this season (’cause I don’t catch the NCAA), but I see CDR had a decent night 30 and 6 (turnovers)
Jan.31 at 10:30 am
TADOne says:
Ok ya’ll, got some trivia: Without looking it up, who is #2 in 4th quarter scoring this season? Bron is #1.
Jan.31 at 10:30 am
white hot eboy says:
And Rynocerous, upon further review, I believe I’m probably within 5 years of your fathers age, based upon you and your brothers names, so I look at you in the same vein as I do my own son, young man.
Jan.31 at 10:30 am
Ryne Nelson says:
Hell no, that’s Henry Abott’s job! lol
Jan.31 at 10:31 am
Ryne Nelson says:
@Eboy taken as a compliment
Jan.31 at 10:31 am
TADOne says:
Yeah, that 3 way trade they discussed is NOT happening. Portland has no need for another PG.
Jan.31 at 10:31 am
white hot eboy says:
Yeah, Holly, that deal, it didn’t seem likely, but realy what is Portland losing, Jack and Frye and gaining Harris? That may not be so horrible for them.
Jan.31 at 10:32 am
Keith says:
Baron Davis Tad.
Jan.31 at 10:32 am
Ryne Nelson says:
@tad - Carmello?
Jan.31 at 10:32 am
Jared says:
2 is Joe Johnson I think? either joe or kobe…and yea, chris douglas roberts, don’t know how i feel about him…i liked Carneys pro potential better but everyone loves this kid
Jan.31 at 10:32 am
TADOne says:
Eboy: Outlaw was mentioned too. Again, not happening.
Jan.31 at 10:33 am
TADOne says:
No, no, and no.
Jan.31 at 10:33 am
Jared says:
I don’t think it would be bad for Portland…Devin can play, take some pressure of Roy.
Jan.31 at 10:33 am
TADOne says:
You’ll be surprised as I was when I heard. Want me to just say?
Jan.31 at 10:33 am
white hot eboy says:
TAD, I wouldn’t be surprised either way, because I do think Kidd will be gone by the deadline.
Jan.31 at 10:34 am
Jared says:
d wade
Jan.31 at 10:34 am
Keith says:
Yao Ming, Tad.
Jan.31 at 10:34 am
TADOne says:
Jared got it. That f*cking raised my eyebrows.
Jan.31 at 10:34 am
Ryne Nelson says:
I like the deal for Portland, upon thinking harder about it. When you look down the line when it’s time to give big contracts, you might be to dissent among Outlaw, Frye and Jack. Heck, they probably will have to let some of them go because they won’t be able to pay them all. Plus, Portland literally will have 22 players on its roster if they don’t make a change come next year.
Jan.31 at 10:34 am
white hot eboy says:
Roy?
Jan.31 at 10:35 am
Ryne Nelson says:
Plus, Devin’s just about the only PG in the League who’s young, a good citizen, talented, experienced, and not a Blazer.
Jan.31 at 10:35 am
Jared says:
Martell Websters coming along well too…they have a lot of swingmen…damn, it’s good to see that they developed so quickly out in portland, good story. Hopefully they’ll be a dynasty.
Jan.31 at 10:35 am
TADOne says:
I was trying to wrap my mind around Wade being #2 in 4th quarter scoring but the Heat being so bad.
Jan.31 at 10:35 am
white hot eboy says:
Why so surprised at Wade? He’s the only one who can score for the Heat consistently, so why not?
Jan.31 at 10:36 am
Jared says:
Yea Tad, i remember seeing that stat last night and being surprised that Dwyane was there…Kobe and Joe were 3 and 4…eh, the guy can score. He did win an nba championship by himself.
Jan.31 at 10:37 am
Ryne Nelson says:
Wade’s the only option. I see it.
Jan.31 at 10:37 am
Keith says:
Yao Ming? Is it Yao Ming? It’s Yao Ming isn’t it? I knew it was the Ming.
Jan.31 at 10:37 am
TADOne says:
I know he can score, but 4th quarter stats like that usually equate to more wins, no?
Jan.31 at 10:37 am
TADOne says:
Keith: it’s D Wade.
Jan.31 at 10:38 am
Keith says:
Don’t lie to me Tad. It’s Yao Ming.
Jan.31 at 10:39 am
TADOne says:
Eboy, I just expected someone like KB, Baron, AI, or Melo would be all higher than him.
Jan.31 at 10:39 am
white hot eboy says:
No TAD, when you are trailing by 10+ points every 4th quarter there’s a lot of points to be made up in their attempts at combebacks, which never happen.
Jan.31 at 10:41 am
Ryne Nelson says:
I don’t know if you all heard the news, but I’m sort of pissed Joe Johnson’s going to be an All-Star this year. He definitely isn’t deserving over some other players. If Calderon doesn’t make it because of Joe….
Jan.31 at 10:42 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
I want Jax. And, it was kind of alarming that I was agreeing with almost everything that was coming out of Bill Walton’s mouth at halftime.
Jan.31 at 10:42 am
white hot eboy says:
It’s a numbers game, Rynocerous, and Calderon’s isn’t up yet.
Jan.31 at 10:42 am
Keith says:
How and more importantly, where, did you find out that stat TADOne?
Jan.31 at 10:42 am
TADOne says:
Makes sense Eboy, but I’m sure you wouldn’t have guessed his name first.
Jan.31 at 10:43 am
white hot eboy says:
I think Baron might get the nod, Jax is doubtful, Holly, I would imagine. Now if Perfect Lashes could have somehow been featured at All Star Weekend somewhere……
Jan.31 at 10:44 am
white hot eboy says:
I’m actually not surprised in the least, TAD. That has been his MO for the last three seasons when they were a good team, so just because they can’t win a game doesn’t change his role, just the outcome.
Jan.31 at 10:44 am
Slick Nick Da Ruler says:
LeBron walked on his game winning drive. Donaghy lives
Jan.31 at 10:45 am
Ryne Nelson says:
Steven’s very doubtful for the game because of the guard logjam in the west.
Jan.31 at 10:45 am
Jared says:
Jose’s definitely getting slept on…he’s putting up a great season though…good to see.
Jan.31 at 10:46 am
TADOne says:
Keith: they showed it during the Blazers/Cavs game last night.
Jan.31 at 10:46 am
white hot eboy says:
I thought he did too, Nick as I watched it happen live, but after three replays I realized that he got the steps just right on his move. It was a great play.
Jan.31 at 10:47 am
TADOne says:
Agreeing with Bill Walton might mean you need some sleep Holly.
Jan.31 at 10:48 am
TADOne says:
Bron didn’t walk. He just takes some long strides. I saw the replay about 6 times.
Jan.31 at 10:49 am
Slick Nick Da Ruler says:
Eboy, is there enough All Star love for Diddy and Roy? They both deserve it. If NO is the top seed, should Chandler or West be All Stars?
Jan.31 at 10:52 am
TADOne says:
On a side note: How old is Outlaw? Didn’t he come straight out of highschool? He looks like he is 36. Dude has no hairline.
Jan.31 at 10:53 am
Ryne Nelson says:
Yes, there’s space for Baron and Roy. They’ll be among the reserves list this evening without a doubt.
Jan.31 at 10:53 am
white hot eboy says:
Baron and Brandon should each get a spot. Nash could too, but I think Diddy and Roy have been more “All-Star” this season to warrant the pick.
Jan.31 at 10:53 am
Ryne Nelson says:
@tad - I think the blazers are the youngest oldest looking team
Jan.31 at 10:54 am
Keith says:
You’re thinking of Bo Outlaw TADOne.
Jan.31 at 10:54 am
Ryne Nelson says:
I’m just glad Tracy’s taking the game off to rest his back.
Jan.31 at 10:59 am
TADOne says:
No, talking about Travis Outlaw. He looks old as hell.
Jan.31 at 10:59 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
how would lebron perform against a defense from ten years ago when a defender could actually hand check, etc.?
Jan.31 at 11:04 am
Captain America says:
TADOne, in Beasley “I Believe” He predicted a win and made one. Big Al’s line: 26 points, 20 boards. Ryan Gomes line: 25 points, 10 boards, 3 steals.
Jan.31 at 11:08 am
Captain America says:
Mike Conley Jr injured? Damn, just damn.
Jan.31 at 11:08 am
TADOne says:
I didn’t realize Beasley’s J was so good.
Jan.31 at 11:12 am
Jared says:
Beasley’s well rounded
Jan.31 at 11:13 am
Russ Bengtson says:
I’ve been up all night hitting myself in the head with a brick.
Jan.31 at 11:15 am
white hot eboy says:
Poor Russ.
Jan.31 at 11:16 am
TADOne says:
Looks like you beat the brick.
Jan.31 at 11:17 am
Jared says:
Damn Russ…why are you harping on it? Gotta look forward to the future…
Jan.31 at 11:19 am
Russ Bengtson says:
F the future. What future? Ben Wallace for three more years? Woohoo, party.
Jan.31 at 11:20 am
white hot eboy says:
LOL @ Russ.
Jan.31 at 11:20 am
Russ Bengtson says:
Like I said last night, they need to blow up the team and start over. And by “blow up the team” I mean they need to nuke the Berto Center while they’re at practice.
Jan.31 at 11:20 am
Captain America says:
Lefty J too.
Jan.31 at 11:21 am
Keith says:
Paxson has to leave now. He makes the decision as to who they trade for and he decides who they sign to big, fat contracts. And let’s face it, they haven’t made any trades and have only signed underperforming, undersized centres to big contracts whilst neglecting to sign the onyl talent they actually have - Deng.
Jan.31 at 11:21 am
Russ Bengtson says:
P.S. LeBron is pretty good.
Jan.31 at 11:22 am
Kadavour says:
i dunno Eboy, ur saying that you didn’t experience the “oh sh!t” when Kobe put up that streak of 50s, or when he scored 62 in 3qtrs, or when he hit 9 straight 3s in a game and broke the 3pt record? I feel like we’ve become numb to Kobe’s exploits. He’s done the back to back triple doubles and is capable of putting monster numbers. It’s just not a intrinsic to his game. He’s a pure scorer who can do everything else. LeBron is a super-athlete, his strongest suit being his dime-game, who can also do a bit of everything else. I’ll put Bron on Kobe’s plateau when he develops a consistent midrange. We’re getting glimpses of what could be right now, but the jumper isn’t quite there yet.
Jan.31 at 11:22 am
Russ Bengtson says:
Paxson absolutely has to go, but I’m willing to wait a little longer. As long as he isn’t around for the draft.
Jan.31 at 11:24 am
Russ Bengtson says:
The only thing Kobe does better than LeBron is defend and shoot threes. And both of those are closer than you think.
Jan.31 at 11:25 am
Keith says:
Why leave Paxson haning around? The only possible thing he can do between now and the draft is make a trade. Is that something he should really be allowed to do? If he is definitely going before the draft, I don’t see his purpose in hanging around.
Jan.31 at 11:26 am
Russ Bengtson says:
Fair point. I concede. Someone call Jerry Reinsdorf and get this over with.
Jan.31 at 11:26 am
Keith says:
To contradict my above statement: keep Paxson in charge as he may well pull an ‘Ainge’ and make some blockbuster trades which make everyone forget just how incompetent he has previously been.
Jan.31 at 11:28 am
white hot eboy says:
Lebron’s passing game is that much better than Kobe’s passing so I think that even’s them out. And yeah those games are nice that you mentioned, dead man, but while the records are nice and the numbers are crazy, Michael did all those same type of things before him, so it’s not new to me. No he didn’t score 81, no he didn’t score 62 after three quarters, but the points Michael scored in the time frame he played (let’s say 69 against a strong Cavs team) was probably equal to if not more than the 81 Kobe got in today’s no D league. And if I remember correctly, Toronto played NO D that night. But it was still incredible just the same.
Jan.31 at 11:30 am
Russ Bengtson says:
LeBron’s game is so complete it’s disgusting.
Jan.31 at 11:30 am
TADOne says:
Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
Jan.31 at 11:31 am
white hot eboy says:
Can the Bulls somehow persuade him to come to the Windy City, Russ, when his contracts up?
Jan.31 at 11:32 am
TADOne says:
Sur Eboy, whenever the schedule says they play the Bulls.
Jan.31 at 11:34 am
white hot eboy says:
Well, I know for years there was talk of KG going to Chicago, then this summer, it seemed like Kobe would wind up there so who knows I wouldn’t be surprised if Wade wound up there at some point.
Jan.31 at 11:35 am
Bryan says:
Morning, Lebron is a killer.I watched the second half.Ridiculous.
Jan.31 at 11:37 am
TADOne says:
I guess anything is possible. But I would think if LeBron was going to leave for any bigger market, it would be NY.
Jan.31 at 11:37 am
white hot eboy says:
Keep licking Kobe’s ba*s, Shia. Don’t try to jump on Lebrons train. There’s no room for you, Fu*er.
Jan.31 at 11:38 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
redic for real, hey? the craziest part is we will be having this same conversation about Bron year after year because it just doesn’t get old.
Jan.31 at 11:39 am
Bryan says:
I’d take Kobe over Lebron still Eboy don’t worry.
Jan.31 at 11:39 am
white hot eboy says:
BTW, Shia, when is your retirement game, tonight? And I’m going to have to find out where you are in Panama City, because where going up there soon to visit my wife’s best friend and I will search your monkey ass out and get you on a basketball court for a quick beatdown then take you and your girl out for dinner.
Jan.31 at 11:43 am
white hot eboy says:
150
Jan.31 at 11:44 am
white hot eboy says:
*we’re
Jan.31 at 11:45 am
Kadavour says:
LeBron isn’t close with his shooting. His percentages give a false representation of his stroke because most of those buckets come from those big-body layup and dunks. When Michael was putting up those crazy numbers he wasn’t doing it off shooting either. It was much like LeBron with his superior athleticism and getting to the paint. I think LeBron could easily get 60 in REGULATION if Danny Ainge, Freckles and The Bird were guarding him.. My point is that LeBron isn’t quite there yet. Prime example would be that White vs. Blue scrimmage. A
Jan.31 at 11:45 am
Bryan says:
Yeah it’s tonight.Myspace when you are gonna be around and if I’m not working its a deal.
Jan.31 at 11:50 am
white hot eboy says:
Kadavour, Dennis Johnson and Robert Parish were big time defenders on the Celtics squads and their team defense was excellent. Just because the highlights show a young Mike crossing Bird for a J doesn’t mean he wasn’t working hard to get his points throughout that game. I saw it live (not in person though) and I know he was putting out max effort every play.
Jan.31 at 11:52 am
Russ Bengtson says:
I love that you can fault a 23-year old who’s averaging (essentially) 30, 7 and 7. He isn’t quite WHERE, exactly?
Jan.31 at 11:55 am
white hot eboy says:
Exactly.
Jan.31 at 11:56 am
Bryan says:
On the other thread didn’t captain america say the cavs have to go deep in the playoffs before he gets respect?…sometimes the people who post here are ridiculous. I SWEAR Cap IS Charley Rosen, and Kadavour is Cap.
Jan.31 at 11:57 am
white hot eboy says:
And the scrimmage example you use should be cancelled out by the ass kicking from this past weekend, Kadavour, in a game that actually mattered.
Jan.31 at 11:58 am
Co Co says:
LeBron is playing the way everyone wanted him to play last season. The Cavs could come out of the East again just because he’s a one man wrecking crew. That’s sad…..
Jan.31 at 11:59 am
Keith says:
Isn’t quite ‘where’ yet? Isn’t quite the best player to ever play basketball? Maybe not but he’s going to achieve it. So we all need to sit back, enjoy and appreciate that we are watching Lebron James grow into potentially the best player to date, who has played the game that we love.
Jan.31 at 11:59 am
white hot eboy says:
Too bad the Heat and the Hawks won’t be there to watch, Co Co.
Jan.31 at 11:59 am
Jared says:
I dont get it…whats he gotta do?
Jan.31 at 11:59 am
Bryan says:
How crazy would it be if Lebron dropped 65 against the Celtics before being eliminated by them, and KG say’s that’s Micheal Jordan disguised as Lebron James.
Jan.31 at 12:01 pm
Kadavour says:
Hoopsencylopedia has a video of that game. check it out and tell me how many jumpers Mike hit. Now compare blueprint to how LeBron gets his buckets and you will see AMAZING similarities in the way they attack the paint. Not in the actual move per se, but just the percentage of shots/compared to layups and dunks attempted. It’s pretty reasonable to argue that LeBron body would serve him well in any endeavour toward the paint. 60 EASILY. That performance was all about one work-horse on the court exercising his will over his lesser equipped (athletically) opponent
Jan.31 at 12:02 pm
Jared says:
So we’re comparing LeBrons game to MJs game, and saying LeBron isn’t great? WHAT?
Jan.31 at 12:02 pm
Keith says:
What’s your point again Kadavour?
Jan.31 at 12:03 pm
Bryan says:
Rosen in the house..
Jan.31 at 12:03 pm
Co Co says:
Dammit Eboy.
Jan.31 at 12:03 pm
white hot eboy says:
All I know, it is refreshing to watch a dominate player who DOESN’T mimic the “greatest player off all time”. Lebron is Lebron, a mix of Michael, Magic and Charles like someone said a couple of days ago. There’s no copying of mannerisms and movements, so he’s his own entity which is great.
Jan.31 at 12:05 pm
TADOne says:
Even the mouthpiece is his own. Disgusting, but his own.
Jan.31 at 12:06 pm
Kadavour says:
whoa, i’m not bashing LeBron. as a point guard there’s nothing I appreciate more than court vision and a MEAN dime-game. But as a point, you just have to respect a dude who can score in ANY situation. LeBron is almost there. If anyone in the league is there, i’d say its Kobe. that’s all my argument is about. LeBron is not quite on Kobe’s level. He’s pretty damn close though.
Jan.31 at 12:08 pm
white hot eboy says:
Kadavour, I already mentioned that Mike’s jumper didn’t become deadly until he was around 27 or 28, so I don’t get the example.
Jan.31 at 12:08 pm
TADOne says:
It’s cool Kadavour, Bron/Kobe talk gets these folks fored up.
Jan.31 at 12:08 pm
TADOne says:
*fired
Jan.31 at 12:09 pm
white hot eboy says:
What situation then, can’t Lebron score in?
Jan.31 at 12:11 pm
white hot eboy says:
And if his mid-range game is his weakness, name 10 other players at his position who’s mid-range game is decidedly better. That would be a good starting point, no?
Jan.31 at 12:12 pm
Kadavour says:
In a situation where he’s forced to 1) score above double teams from mid-range and beyond, and his catch and shoot is still suspect
Jan.31 at 12:13 pm
Keith says:
Kadavour…who would you rather have in a close game? Kobe or Lebron?
Jan.31 at 12:14 pm
Bryan says:
Kobe.
Jan.31 at 12:14 pm
Russ Bengtson says:
30, 7 and 7. Faulting LeBron for his shot now is like people faulting Shaq in ‘00 because “all he does is dunk.”
Jan.31 at 12:16 pm
Russ Bengtson says:
He’s twenty-three years old. If he was perfect now, what would be the fun of watching him for the rest of his career? LeBron shouldn’t even be at his peak for another four, five years.
Jan.31 at 12:16 pm
Kadavour says:
Melo, Luol, Josh Howard, Jefferson, Hedo, Peja…i’m sure others on these boards can name a bunch of other such shooters at the 3 spot
Jan.31 at 12:16 pm
Bryan says:
I think people can all agree Kobe is a more complete scorer than Lebron , but that’s not because Lebron isn’t a great scorer, he’s a little more streaky than Kobe but I think his outside is no longer suspect.
Jan.31 at 12:16 pm
H to the izzo says:
OFF TOPIC:I’m going to see Eric Muthaf*ckin Clapton Muthaf*ckers.
Jan.31 at 12:16 pm
Bryan says:
outside shot*
Jan.31 at 12:17 pm
Kadavour says:
Keith: Kobe. I’d even take Dwayne Wade down the stretch. They both have superior mid-range and can get to the rim
Jan.31 at 12:17 pm
Keith says:
Am I the only one who likes Kadavour for forcing us to re-evaluate just how much we love ‘Bron? Dude simply has a conflicting opinion but as we all have said..that’s what we love about this board. The only things we don’t like are: Tarzan, Captain America and racism.
Jan.31 at 12:17 pm
white hot eboy says:
Catch and shoot type players are normally reserved for lanky swingman or small guards. That is not in Lebron’s game, and very rarely in Kobe’s. Kobe is a dribble set up man who works off of picks for his jumper. Reggie was the perfect example of a catch and shoot type player because his dribble game was suspect, so I don’t think that applies in this comparison, Kadavour.
Jan.31 at 12:18 pm
Kadavour says:
29% is a bit suspect Shia
Jan.31 at 12:18 pm
DP says:
Kobe in a close game hands down because he has a killer instinct. Lebron is getting there but he is still in pampers right now when it comes to that aspect of the game. play wit it.
Jan.31 at 12:19 pm
Russ Bengtson says:
Richard Jefferson? Seriously? Richard freaking Jefferson?
Jan.31 at 12:19 pm
Jared says:
thats dope izzo, i dont know, bron just continues to amaze and do things you didn’t think he could. i was amazed that he was knockin down those treys last night…he’s here
Jan.31 at 12:20 pm
white hot eboy says:
KAdavour, I said TEN players, not seven and if you think Josh Howard is in that class, you just made my argument for me.
Jan.31 at 12:20 pm
white hot eboy says:
And D-Wade does not play SF.
Jan.31 at 12:20 pm
TADOne says:
I don’t think anyone is arguing that Bron needs to hone some stuff in his game, I think that to pick apart a persons game at 23 is nitpicking some.
Jan.31 at 12:20 pm
H to the izzo says:
Richard Jefferson is having possibly the most phantom 23ppg season ever.
Jan.31 at 12:21 pm
Kadavour says:
Reggie was the ultimate catch and shoot guard. But i just named 6 forwards who routinely come off screens to catch and shoot. As point guard, you definitely trust that ability above others. And there was a point in last season where the ran some catch and shoot plays for Kobe off screens right out of time outs. They’ve now substituted it for that back screen alley-oop out of the time out. And that’s the beauty of Kobe’s game, you can call just about any play for him.
Jan.31 at 12:21 pm
Russ Bengtson says:
I’m leaning towards taking LeBron every time after his finish against the Lakers and the way he closed out the game last night. Actually, after the way he killed the Pistons in the playoffs. Who cares about his midrange game when no one alive can keep him from getting to the rim whenever he wants? If he had a money mid-range game, he’d already be the greatest basketball player who ever lived and we’d have nothing more to discuss.
Jan.31 at 12:21 pm
white hot eboy says:
Can anyone name a close game situation Kobe has won for the Lakers this year? I have 4 in my mind for Lebron as I type. It is about now, fellas, not last year or 5 years ago.
Jan.31 at 12:21 pm
Bryan says:
It’s the streakiness, Reggie Miller shot 32 percent his final season , Allan Houston shot 29 percent his rookie year it happens.No I’m not saying Lebron is a shooter of their class , but he takes a lot of shots he might start 0-5 then hit 3 out of his next 5 and finish at 30% for the game.
Jan.31 at 12:22 pm
TADOne says:
I didn’t think it was possible not to enjoy a team with Kidd on it, but the Nets are just that unwatchable to me.
Jan.31 at 12:23 pm
Kadavour says:
woah, i didn’t say Josh is in that class or any of the others. You asked for forwards with mid-range that definitely better than Brons. I hate to be a nitpicker just to make a point. LeBron is DEFINITELY one of my favorite players. He’s just not on that Kobe plateau
Jan.31 at 12:23 pm
Russ Bengtson says:
Lebron doesn’t need screens. He’s 6-8, 250 (maybe 260) and moves like a freakin’ point guard. Reggie Miller had to come off screens because he was built like an anorexic praying mantis.
Jan.31 at 12:23 pm
Bryan says:
Izzo, almost as suspect as the 21 Vince is putting up.
Jan.31 at 12:23 pm
H to the izzo says:
How Lawrence Frank is coaching a grown up mens team is beyond me.
Jan.31 at 12:25 pm
white hot eboy says:
I wish someone could dig up this stat, but I’m curious between Kobe and Lebron, who has made the most game winning/game-tying shots in the last 4 1/2 season since Lebron came into the league. I think we’d be all surprised at the results.
Jan.31 at 12:25 pm
DP says:
josh boone is the sh*t. play wit it.
Jan.31 at 12:25 pm
Russ Bengtson says:
If I had to pick between Kobe and LeBron right this very instant, I’d have to think about it for a while. That says a lot, given how young LeBron is.
Jan.31 at 12:25 pm
namik says:
I was at the game. Now I’ve seen LeBron’s first ever triple double and one of his dopest games and he is unbelievable in person. He is huge and moves faster than Roy whenever he wants to. Plus his passes are lightining quick and his hops aren’t bad either. Yeah, it’s harder not to buy into the hype with every game but I got to stay with my Laker love…
Jan.31 at 12:25 pm
TADOne says:
Remember back when people was saying that the genius of Byron Scott’s coaching was Lawrence Frank? Um, not so much.
Jan.31 at 12:27 pm
H to the izzo says:
I’d still pick Kobe now but LeBron is making the decision nearly impossible
Jan.31 at 12:27 pm
Russ Bengtson says:
I blame Frank to an extent, but Jason Kidd stopped caring in November and Vince Carter stopped caring in, um, 2002. It is, however, Frank’s fault that Jason Collins has started something like 22 games this year. That’s just unbelievable.
Jan.31 at 12:27 pm
white hot eboy says:
And to be fair, Michael wasn’t a fantastic three point shooter but he didn’t need it too dominate and he was just as complete as Kobe in his offensive game, so let’s be realistic, Kadavour. You don’t need to make every play in basketball to be considered unstoppable. If I score 45 on drives and dunks on you score 45 on threes and mid-range jumpers, who’s better really?.
Jan.31 at 12:28 pm
Kadavour says:
Kobe’s is second all time with game winner