The Post Up: Pistons Prove their Point
Detroit makes a statement, Utah handles Suns and Sacramento steals one from Memhpis.
By: Holly MacKenzie
When it rains it pours and last night it may have been snowy in Utah but it was pouring buckets all over the Phoenix Suns. Gosh that was an ugly game. Ugly, ugly ugly. It almost physically hurt to see Banks shooting airballs and hearing the crowd taunt him. I don’t even want to talk about the game but I’m with the TNT boys who said they’ve got to find a way to give more people more playing time in Phx. Even if only to be prepared for games like this, besides trying to get the starters some rest. D’Antoni has been saying it forever but, it doesn’t appear likely to happen.
I also agree with Kenny on wanting the Golden State home crowd as your own if the game was on the line. Those fans are crazy and they are 100% behind their guys.
It was nice to see Caron Butler on the TNT after show. I wish the Lakers had been able to keep him. He is a fighter and I am happy to see him playing so well in Washington these past two seasons. I wonder how he really feels about playing without Gil right now. The straw chewing thing is weird, though.
The more I hear about the ASG the more hyped I get. I hate that for every year older I get, my favorite players that I’ve grown up watching get a year older and a year closer to retiring as well. I have this huge fear or not being able to see all of my favorites play before they all hang up their shoes.
I tackled the Phoenix/Utah recap below, but, because it pained me so much it is very brief. For a good look at the game some great insight and observations, check out Lang’s Suns @ Jazz edition of the links.
Okay, onto the recaps and then onto the weekend. Have a good one, and we’ll talk on Monday about the weekend games!
Detroit 90 San Antonio 80
In the match up of the night the Detroit Pistons took down the Spurs 90-85 in San Antonio. After dropping their last two the Pistons came out focused and were ready to make a statement and did so immediately, holding San Antonio to only 15 points in the first quarter as they led 30-15 after one. This first quarter lead came from a 16-0 Detroit run to close the quarter and the Pistons did not trail again in the game. For the first three quarters of the game the Pistons ran circles around the Spurs going up by as many as 20 points as both Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili struggled from the floor. San Antonio fought back and at the start of the fourth were down nine, 67-58. With 2:30 left in the game, the Spurs got within eight on a Ginobili free throw, but they would not get any closer as both Chauncey Billups and Rasheed Wallace scored on layups to put the Pistons up by double-digits and protect the win. Wallace led the way for Detroit with 23 points and 15 rebounds as Richard Hamilton scored 18 and Tayshaun Prince added 17. Tim Duncan was the lone bright spot for the Spurs with 24 points and 15 boards as Parker finished with 12 points on only 4-13 field goals, Ginobili added 10 on 3-12 shooting and Jaque Vaughn scored 11.
Sacramento 116 Memphis 113
While each team took turns going up by as many as 10 points in the contest, it was the Memphis Grizzlies who were leading by 10 midway through the fourth quarter on the road. With the game on the line Sacramento rattled off a 10-2 run to take the lead and outscored Memphis 35-28 in the period to steal the victory. The Kings took the lead on a three-pointer by Francisco Garcia with seven seconds in the game for their first lead since the second quarter of the game. After taking the 114-113 lead, Memphis went scoreless after a Rudy Gay turnover and on Sacramento’s next possession Paul Gasol sent Brad Miller to the line with two seconds on the clock. Miller hit both free throws and with a chance to tie the game, Gasol turned the ball over as Sacramento got the come from behind victory. Miller finished with 22 points and 10 rebounds while John Salmons was the player of the game with 28 points, 11 rebounds and 7 assists. Beno Udrih had 25 points and Garcia added 22. Rudy Gay had 31 points for Memphis, Pau Gasol scored 19 and Mike Miller had 18 points. Mike Conley Jr. added 15 points.
Utah 108 Phoenix 86
Without Steve Nash, Shawn Marion and Grant Hill the Suns knew they would have their hands full with the Utah Jazz. They didn’t realize just how bad things can get when you are playing without three starters and are coming off of a grind it out overtime win the night before. Utah did not plan on wasting any time in letting them know how the game was going to end as they gave the Suns as much as they could handle in the opening quarter before rising above the Phoenix Squad and leaving them in the dust. Down 58-48 at the half, the Suns tried to match the energy of the Jazz but were knocked back in the third as Utah outscored Phoenix 28-12 in the quarter to take complete control and turn the game into a rout. In the decisive quarter the Suns managed only five field goals as Utah finished the period by scoring seven straight and went into the fourth up 86-60. Without Nash running the offense the Suns were at a loss shooting only 36% from the floor in their lowest scoring game of the season. Mehmet Okur had 22 points and 17 rebounds for the Jazz as Ronnie Brewer added 21 points and Carlos Boozer scored 18. Leandro Barbosa had 25 points for the Suns but shot only 7-18 for the game. Amare Stoudemire finished with 21 points and 14 rebounds and Marcus Banks added 9.
260 Responses to “The Post Up: Pistons Prove their Point”
Jan.11 at 9:47 am
Keith says:
Hey Holly…TNT must be reading these boards as they’re only saying what me and you have been saying for the longest - D’Antoni needs to rotate hig guys if he’s gonna succeed.
Jan.11 at 9:52 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
I somehow doubt that though, Keith, as much as I’d love to take credit for the brilliance that is their show. I just feel bad for the bench because it’s got to be tough to sit all year and then be expected to pull it out when you haven’t played at all. I look at the Lakers. Phil may hate playing rookies, we might have had a really horrible bench the past few years, but, by playing them regularly they have developed and now we’ve got one of the best benches in the league. I wanted Marcus Banks to have a big game so badly, but, it didn’t happen for him.
haah, that would be a trip to have those guys huddled over a computer reading words of wisdom from me!
Jan.11 at 9:52 am
The Cool says:
Yes! The Post Up is up early today so I can write at least one post before I got to my dreaded P.E. class. I know by the time I get home tonight there will be 500 freakin posts from you people who stay on here 24/7. Keep up the good work, Holly. This guys have gone crazy wit the post up. play wit it.
Jan.11 at 9:53 am
white hot eboy says:
It seems like from Holly’s words, that she won’t be around much today. Whew…..I don’t know if my brain could handle another comment barrage like yesterday. And TAD, when you come through, while I’m happy for you that the Pistons won, I want those three hours back, because that game was horrible. All the more reason I wouldn’t want to see them meet again in the Finals. Terrible.
Jan.11 at 9:54 am
white hot eboy says:
And then she appears.
Jan.11 at 9:57 am
TADOne says:
Morning all.
Jan.11 at 9:59 am
TADOne says:
Eboy, I’m embarrassed to say I didn’t even watch the game. Saw the highlights, even though they were few. Pistons/Spurs games are ALWAYS ugly games, no surprise there. I’m just glad the 2 people I called out yesterday, Sheed and Tay, finally pulled their heads out of their a$$e$ and played well.
Jan.11 at 10:00 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
actually, the pistons proved their point wednesday night… they dont give a $hit about the mavs.. how bout chuck saying sheed could be the best player in the league if he wants to be… he did last night..
Jan.11 at 10:00 am
Hisham says:
427???
Jan.11 at 10:01 am
TADOne says:
And Holly, when Nash, Marion, and Grant are all on the chilling list, it doesn’t surprise me that the Suns got blown out. Marcus Banks is overpaid.
Jan.11 at 10:04 am
TADOne says:
Was that where we ended yesterday, Hisham? It was kind of a marathon run. I think we named every fat player in the league, past and present.
Jan.11 at 10:04 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
I’m here.. I’ve just got a ton of work to get through before the weekend hits! Some ball to watch this weekend so gotta get some stuff done. Man last night was just an ugggly night of basketball. I should have just taken a break from watching and left it alone. The possibility of another Spurs/Pistons final depresses me. I don’t think it is going to happen and I pray it doesn’t or I might have to skip the first half of the series.
Jan.11 at 10:05 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
boozer had one board last night. ONE! and only four the game before..meanwhile, memo got 17!! wtf is going on at the jazzmat? they might need to check the water.
Jan.11 at 10:07 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
I’m not surprised about the Suns either, but it still stung to watch. Just another reminder why D’Antoni needed to be true to his promises to get his bench more time.
Jan.11 at 10:07 am
TADOne says:
Don’t worry, Holly. Per John Hollinger the Spurs only have a 0.01 chance of getting to the finals, or some absurd number.
Jan.11 at 10:09 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
too bad for all you hater, spurs/pistons is inevitable. unless derek fisher…….
Jan.11 at 10:10 am
white hot eboy says:
I really hope Charles meant to say that Sheed has the ability to be the best PF in the league. Best player in the league? Eat another 14 Krispy Kremes, Chuck.
Jan.11 at 10:10 am
Keith says:
Tadone - what is there not to like about the grmiey, gritty displays of the Pistons and Spurs? I honestly love watching them face off. It’s more a strategic game when those two match up - a bit like chess.
Jan.11 at 10:12 am
The Second Coming says:
Yeah, that phoenix game was like JV playing against an AAU team. Also, anyone else wondering the value of Derek Fisher now? Jazz have been stinkin up da’ joint, and the Lakers are back ten games over .500? no coincidence.
Jan.11 at 10:14 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
Keith, I don’t mind watching the Pistons and Spurs but a whole series of it, in the finals when they are the only two teams left playing gets kind of draining. I do love the strategy, but, my heart aches for something a little more entertaining. Spurs/Pistons is not a game I can sit down with friends and watch. It is one I can watch alone or with a few diehards who understand and appreciate the game and that is cool, but the best part of the playoffs is a whole group of people who are hyped to watch. Unless of course the Lakers are playing and then I kick everyone out and have to watch alone.
Jan.11 at 10:14 am
white hot eboy says:
Second Coming, while Fish’s experience is invaluable, NOTHING has helped the Lakers fortunes moe than Kobe actually sharing the ball consistently and Bynum’s current breakout.
Jan.11 at 10:17 am
white hot eboy says:
Holly cracks me up. And I would way prefer to see a contrast of style’s final, Det/GS, SA/Bos, then two grind it out teams. We all know the ratings for the Spurs/Pistons Finals 3 seasons ago. Disgraceful for a 7 game series.
Jan.11 at 10:19 am
Hisham says:
Yeah that’s the number you guys ended up with. I read them all, too.. my work is suffering greatly, even though the time difference only allows me to be here till about 11 AM EST. The catching up i have to do every day is becoming too much to bear..
Jan.11 at 10:20 am
Keith says:
Oh, don’t get me wrong people - a more exciting, less strategical game is way more entertaining but occasionally (about as occasionally as the Spurs-Pistons matchups are) I really love sitting down and watching two machines going at it.
Jan.11 at 10:20 am
white hot eboy says:
Yesterday’s comments were equal to a quadruple overtime game.
Jan.11 at 10:20 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
Eboy, Kobe’s trust in those teammates has done wonders for them. The bench looks completely different than just one year ago.
Second Coming, Fish is a great addition to the team on the floor but his real value we don’t see. He commands the respect of Kobe and is someone that has not only earned Kobe’s trust (something, I do not imagine to be easy), but, has played with him since he was a rookie who wasn’t getting anytime. I read an article yesterday that compared his role to that of Ron Harper and I’d have to agree. Maybe not the most skilled or athletic player on the floor, but someone who holds the team together and is the glue.
Jan.11 at 10:25 am
H to the izzo says:
Once again,in case you missed it,p*ssy jackpot.
Jan.11 at 10:26 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
jay leno ordered a monkey in a teacup, but the monkey got away. strangely, the giant chined man said the monkey was hairless and quote “looked like a bald guy”.
Jan.11 at 10:28 am
Hisham says:
Ron Harper actually used to be pretty skilled and atheltically gifted. He was just 64 years old when he played on those Bulls and Laker Team.
Jan.11 at 10:29 am
Hisham says:
*teams
Jan.11 at 10:29 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
Just put Sean May out there with a George Foreman grill and a set of steak knives.
Jan.11 at 10:30 am
white hot eboy says:
That really stuck with you, huh, Izzo?
Jan.11 at 10:31 am
Keith says:
I think it stuck with you Izzo because it sounded ludicrous.
Jan.11 at 10:31 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
yeah, it sucked to see Harp’s decline but he was so smart that he was able to be effective without the athleticism. I remember him coaching Kobe on how to change your game when dealing with injuries and how to play smarter when you lose your quickness, etc. He was one of my favorite Lakers when I was younger. I’ve heard he is an ass off court, but I don’t want to believe anything bad about Harp.
Jan.11 at 10:32 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
Izzo’s all over the risque comments.
Jan.11 at 10:33 am
Hisham says:
Is he even involved in the NBA anymore? coaching or otherwise? He seems like a good tutor.
Jan.11 at 10:36 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
im serious about the jay leno/tiny monkey thing. he was on jimmy kimmel(kimble for the black folks) last night and told the story of when he was a kid he ordered a monkey in a teacup out of the back of a comic book(he had the page). its probably on youtube already.
Jan.11 at 10:36 am
white hot eboy says:
Holly, you don’t remember my first hand account with that stuttering prick Harper I wrote about somewhere on here? I loved him on the Bulls, but that motherfu*er made himself out to be more than just an ass. And other’s in the know have told me it wasn’t an isolated incident of him being a jerkoff.
Jan.11 at 10:36 am
TADOne says:
Keith: Don’t get me wrong, being a junkie of the game, I love watching 2 teams like the Pistons/Spurs compete and try to get the upper hand. But like Holly and Eboy said, they also can be hard on the eyes when they get each other in offensive checkmates. Those 2 teams do it to each other alot.
Jan.11 at 10:36 am
H to the izzo says:
Holly,I can’t possibly take credit for such a phrase
Jan.11 at 10:38 am
BETCATS says:
good moring everybody
Jan.11 at 10:38 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
He was with the Pistons as an assistant, but I haven’t seen him lately so I’m not sure. He should go hang out in LA with Shaw who is another asset to this young LA team. Shaw’s been working with Critt, keeping his focus right and helping him understand rookies don’t get to play all of the time in the NBA.
Jan.11 at 10:39 am
TADOne says:
And yeah, that Barkley comment caught me offguard. Best in the league?! Really?! I love Sheed, but come on now.
Jan.11 at 10:39 am
Hisham says:
Eboy I don’t remember either… Mind telling the story again?
Jan.11 at 10:40 am
TADOne says:
I’m so glad Ron Harper isn’t on our coaching staff anymore. Terry Porter is there now and I think he is a much better coach.
Jan.11 at 10:40 am
d.Y. says:
40 already? cheezumbread. Oh and for all the heads needlessly calling out Hollinger for his number games, his system had the Spurs as most likely champs all year when everyone was talking about the Mavs and Suns.
Jan.11 at 10:41 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
damn, eboy, for real hey? I figured it had to be true, I’ve heard from some solid inside sources with LA most of the same but I didn’t want to believe it. I never heard your story, but feel free to share it again!
Jan.11 at 10:41 am
TADOne says:
Hollinger is a moron.
Jan.11 at 10:43 am
BETCATS says:
Hollinger is a mormon
Jan.11 at 10:43 am
Keith says:
Having Terry Porter in reserve for when Detroit gets tired of Flip is a great idea.
Jan.11 at 10:43 am
white hot eboy says:
Bet, how was the date? What movie did you see?
I’ll start typing the story now. And did Holly, just type “eh”? You go, Team Canada.
Jan.11 at 10:43 am
white hot eboy says:
Oh it was “hey”. Dammit.
Jan.11 at 10:45 am
TADOne says:
Eh?
Jan.11 at 10:45 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
I said HEY.. ahahah it is as close to the dreaded “Eh” as I will allow myself to slip.
Jan.11 at 10:46 am
BETCATS says:
Having fabio as a reserve when tayshaw leaves is a good idea too
Jan.11 at 10:47 am
TADOne says:
Fabio is garbage. Dudes hands are the only great thing about him.
Jan.11 at 10:47 am
Jared says:
Whats up guys…500 today?
Jan.11 at 10:47 am
Hisham says:
Haha BET.. Actually, do mormons ever visit this website? After all the race talk that’s been going on from time to time, religion seems like a cool topic to hear you guys’ opinions about.. I know Eboy’s afraid to..
Jan.11 at 10:47 am
TADOne says:
Jarvis Hayes is Tay’s backup.
Jan.11 at 10:47 am
BETCATS says:
saw i am legend, chick got clingy, got a little kiss kiss action and rode the bus home, dropped her off at her stop walked her home then went home and sleeped
Jan.11 at 10:48 am
BETCATS says:
that is Hell Date by BET
Jan.11 at 10:49 am
TADOne says:
Please guys, no more race talk. And I don’t think we’ll get to 500 or even 400 today. Have too much “actual” work to do today. Reality sucks.
Jan.11 at 10:50 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
61
Jan.11 at 10:50 am
TADOne says:
BET: the bus?! That is great in it’s own right.
Jan.11 at 10:50 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
64
Jan.11 at 10:50 am
Hisham says:
Are there any Jewish players in the NBA? Are Dolph and Danny Schayes the only ones ever to have played in the NBA?
Jan.11 at 10:51 am
H to the izzo says:
White people are just lazy
Jan.11 at 10:51 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
66
Jan.11 at 10:51 am
BETCATS says:
yup, the bus (no jerry.)
Jan.11 at 10:51 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
72?
Jan.11 at 10:52 am
Hisham says:
Buddhists? Hinduists?
Jan.11 at 10:52 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
71
Jan.11 at 10:52 am
BETCATS says:
Tarzan stop being such an @$$ hole
Jan.11 at 10:52 am
Hisham says:
Mormons?
Jan.11 at 10:52 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
craig hodges was something
Jan.11 at 10:53 am
d.Y. says:
Hisham… George Mikan.
Jan.11 at 10:53 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
“kiss kiss” is running through my head now, Cats. the variety of songs that this site puts in my head each day is unbelievable. Was the date good though?? Your Hell date comment confused me!
Jan.11 at 10:53 am
BETCATS says:
my opinon on Religon- as long as you belive in god you are okay with me
Jan.11 at 10:53 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
78
Jan.11 at 10:53 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
82
Jan.11 at 10:54 am
H to the izzo says:
Shawn Bradley was a Mormon was he not?
Jan.11 at 10:54 am
Hisham says:
Voodooismists?
Jan.11 at 10:54 am
BETCATS says:
i should have called it Heaven Date but it was a show on BET called Hell Date so i just figured id call it that
Jan.11 at 10:55 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
85
Jan.11 at 10:55 am
Keith says:
None of that happened did it BETS? I suspect what actaully happened was that you met her at the cinema. You went to get into the movie but were asked for I.D. You produced some. They said it was fake. You got angry and punched the nerdy ticket stub collector in the face. You got kicked out. Your girl stayed in there tending to the nerdy punching bag. Nerdy punching bag takes the girl to see ‘I am Legend’. You stand outside raging. Nerdy punching bag comes out having gotten to 2nd base with your girl. You go to punch him for taking your girl. Your girl punches you before you can unleash your power-punch. You’re floored. So now, I think you’re sitting in front of your computer with an ice pack on your eye to minimise the swelling. The end.
Jan.11 at 10:55 am
H to the izzo says:
So I’m not okay with BET?
Jan.11 at 10:55 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
karl malone was into voodoo.
Jan.11 at 10:56 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
91?
Jan.11 at 10:57 am
Hisham says:
sorry to hear that, BET. Apparently, we’re not cool.
Jan.11 at 10:57 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
fu(k you betcats
Jan.11 at 10:58 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
fu(k you keith
Jan.11 at 10:58 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
fu(k you hisham
Jan.11 at 10:58 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
ahh gotcha.. I’m familiar with hell date, although the first time I stumbled upon it I didn’t understand the concept and I just thought this girl was straight up crazy! Glad to hear the night went well. Man, it seems like everyone is falling in love around here. You with your date, Shia flying his girl all around the world, the Post Up boys are holding it down!
Jan.11 at 10:59 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
fu(k you izzo
Jan.11 at 10:59 am
white hot eboy says:
Allright, 1996 playoffs, Bulls 72 win season, at Game Three of the first round matchup with Heat. Me and my boy were Bulls’ed-out. We knew the hotel the boys were staying and followed the bus to the Mayfair in Coconut Grove after the win. We ran into all kinds of cats from the Bulls who where all very cool, Kukoc, Wennington, Longley, Dennis (yes, we had a drink with him at Dan Marino’s restaurant where the team went to celebrate the win)Jason Caffey, (who I wrote about earlier too)Kerr (really cool)Buechler (very down to earth) and a brief glimpse of MJ (who left with his security detail and rode out to parts unkown). Dan Marino’s had an entire section roped off for the Bulls and we were probably in a group of 300 other Bulls fans who followed them like we did. Me and my boy were trying to scheme how we could into the Bulls party and decided to post up in different parts of the restauraunt to see if we could find an opening. I was near the bathroom alcolve when two big shadows were coming up behind me and when I turned around it was Harp and Pip together, both sucking on cigars. I put my hand out to Harp and said “great win, Harp”. Just wanted to shake his hand. He looked down at me with a look of disgust like I was asking for $10,000. I had a Bulls t on, so I would imagine his vision was good enough to see I was a fan of the team. My boy must have seen me in the 15 to 20 seconds I was standing in front of them and made his way over and tried to do the same to Pip. As he put his hand out, Harp looked at him and put his hand out and said “Sco, Sco, Sco, Sco, Scottie doesn’t shake hands with nobody” like he was his handler or something. My boy said “I just wanted to congratulate him” and Harp saidm “he don’t need it”. All stone faced the entire time. I was WAY worse at the time, kind of Shia-esque and said calmly “you do know you’re about the 6th most important dude on the squad right”. Harp looked at me with the same stone face and just walked by. It all took about 45 seconds, but that bit*h can choke on his stutter. And Dennis was cool as fu*k, as well as drunk as fu*k at the bar that night. Great memories, except for Harp.
Jan.11 at 10:59 am
Hisham says:
what’s the racist-sexist type word for religion deiscriminators? i want to call bet that. @ d.Y: so that’s 3 jewish guys in the NBA, ever?
Jan.11 at 11:00 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
fu(k you honky
Jan.11 at 11:00 am
TADOne says:
I’m still looking for mine, Holly. Damn everyones relationships!
Jan.11 at 11:00 am
d.Y. says:
Y’all are on something today. So BETS, what if a cat believes in gods, or nature, or jello, or nothing at all? Good call on Bradley Izzo. I wouldn’t be surprised if Kareem and/or Walton are Buddhist, matter fact, I’m pretty sure Bill is.
Jan.11 at 11:00 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
stop the madness, please.
Jan.11 at 11:00 am
BETCATS says:
Keith - I Am Legend is PG-13 no id is needed. I took her in, she gets freaked out a lot when she sees the Zombies, then we go to a bench outside the movietheater, i buy her a soda, she drinks it, we talk about stuff that only Raliegh folk understand, i get my kiss on, we take the bus home, she lives like 12 houses away from me so i walk her home got a hug at her front door then i walked home and went night night
Jan.11 at 11:00 am
TADOne says:
Eboy, since I’m lazy, WTF did you just post?
Jan.11 at 11:01 am
BETCATS says:
alright i am switching computers
Jan.11 at 11:01 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
zealot
Jan.11 at 11:03 am
Hisham says:
Okay Harp is a b*tch. We already knew about Scottie
Jan.11 at 11:03 am
H to the izzo says:
Bill is Shroomist
Jan.11 at 11:05 am
TADOne says:
DY: You should have been here yesterday. Today is tame in comparison. Holly: we like madness.
Jan.11 at 11:05 am
d.Y. says:
Yeah Hisham, far as I know. Jews aren’t too big on sports. Couple footbal guys, Sandy Kaufax, Bill Goldberg… Cushman from the Tom Cruise and Coony Gooding movie. That’s about it.
Jan.11 at 11:06 am
TADOne says:
Izzo: huh??
Jan.11 at 11:06 am
Hisham says:
d.Y Kareem can’t be Buddhist. He converted to Islam sometime in his early NBA career. He has the most Muslim name in the history of Muslim names.
Jan.11 at 11:06 am
Hisham says:
haha shroomist
Jan.11 at 11:07 am
white hot eboy says:
Kids, I go off for a few minutes to type a story for your benefit and you start acting like as*holes? Kill that sh*t, boys. Holly’s column doesn’t need that sh*t.
Jan.11 at 11:07 am
TADOne says:
Jews ARE big on sports…the legal side.
Jan.11 at 11:07 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
EBOY! that is crazy. That really does suck about Harp, that is worse than some of the stories I’ve heard. “He don’t need it”, would have pissed me off. Holy. That story is hype though. I LOVE Dennis. If I could hang out with any ex-nba guy for a day he’d be near the top of the list. He seem so cool. Crazy for sure, but honest about his crazy and just cool. Yeah, I’d like to kick it with Dennis for sure. What a trip that must have been for you and your boy. I bet that Harp incident left a bad taste in your mouth though. I’m trying to prepare for the crushing feeling when one of my favorites does it to me. I am praying it’s not going to be Kob, because that would suck after 12 years of being down with him. Thanks for typing that all out!
Jan.11 at 11:07 am
Hisham says:
If Kareem is Buddhist now, then he must really enjoy switching it up
Jan.11 at 11:08 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
bill walton has no idea of what buddhism is really about, he is just some wannabe hippie who did lots of drugs and pretends to be deep and spiritual when really he just has dementia.
Jan.11 at 11:08 am
d.Y. says:
I saw the beginning TADO, I lurked for about 5 minutes, then gave up and went to teach kids.
Jan.11 at 11:08 am
BETCATS says:
look, i didnt mean to offend anyone but i was raised by my mom and my relgious grandparents and if i didnt think something bigger than me could make the days better i would go crazier
Jan.11 at 11:08 am
TADOne says:
Damn, that is what I get for not reading all the comments. What the hell are ya’ll talking about?
Jan.11 at 11:09 am
H to the izzo says:
The religion talk is turning a bit stereotypical,a role usually reserved for one Eboy,Whit Hot
Jan.11 at 11:10 am
white hot eboy says:
Holly, it was a great night. And little did I know that my brief glimpse of MJ that night was only a precursor. He’s heard that story too. He had a great reaction to it.
Jan.11 at 11:10 am
Keith says:
Betcats is a smooth operator (that’s another song for your head Holly)
Jan.11 at 11:11 am
Hisham says:
hey hey chill, eboy, your typing was much appreciated.
Jan.11 at 11:12 am
d.Y. says:
Dang Fake Tarzan, full of vitrol today. I am an idiot for Kareem, I was just thinking that after becoming a student of Bruce, Kareem mighta found a need for balance. Oh and that’s a shame Eboy, but that’s the problem with celebs, especially testosterone charged athletes. Etan Thomas had a great line in an article here about Sean Taylor when he spoke of the gap between fan and celeb and how negative and potentially dangerous it is.
Jan.11 at 11:13 am
white hot eboy says:
Hisham, fu*k my story, just saying, respect Holly’s spot.
Jan.11 at 11:13 am
Hisham says:
alright, i understand, BET. you shouldn’t judge people who don’t feel the same way, though
Jan.11 at 11:13 am
Jared says:
this is madness
Jan.11 at 11:13 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
deuces
Jan.11 at 11:13 am
Hisham says:
How am i disrespecting holly’s post?
Jan.11 at 11:13 am
Keith says:
These comment sections rarely relate to basketball anymore. It’s becoming a message board. Must been intimdating for anybody new checking it out. Maybe we should cut out the cr*p and stick to basketball?
Jan.11 at 11:15 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
okay Eboy, you need to get the MJ story up asap. Can’t tease everyone like that. Crazy to think about chilling with the Champion Bulls. Shooot. Bet, don’t worry about having to explain your beliefs. Believe what you believe and be happy with your faith, whatever it may be. Caught a Kareem interview the other day where he talked about the differences between Muslim/Christianity and the ways religion is portrayed in the media. It was interesting. Keith, Sade this early in the morning is crazy! ahaha and I agree, Bet is baiting his girl so before long she has fallen!
Jan.11 at 11:15 am
TADOne says:
Various topics are what make the site fun. Some people just don’t know how to make intelligent comments or take stuff too far is all.
Jan.11 at 11:16 am
H to the izzo says:
I agree with Keith
Jan.11 at 11:16 am
BETCATS says:
Hishman - did i ever judge. All i said was that if you belive in god you are cool with me. I never said that if you dont you are not. I would still respect you if you worship Cheese Doodles and thought that the big chese would come one day and save you. I just have more of an understanding of people of all relgion who belive in God.
Jan.11 at 11:16 am
Hisham says:
Religious diversity in the NBA is not a good topic?
Jan.11 at 11:17 am
white hot eboy says:
Did I say you directly, Hisham? Keith, that’s a great idea, and actually yesterday, there was a huge portion of that freakfest that stayed ball related. But we usually keep it light and entertaining for each other, so when sh*t goes south, we knew to end it quick out of repect to Holly, SLAM and ourselves.
Jan.11 at 11:18 am
Hisham says:
Cool, BET. I jumped to conclusions. Sorry about that
Jan.11 at 11:19 am
Hisham says:
I still don’t understand.. was anybody being offensive?
Jan.11 at 11:19 am
white hot eboy says:
I’m working on it Holly, it’s hard, because I have alot of content to sort through. And are we already at 137 comments. Wow.
Jan.11 at 11:20 am
BETCATS says:
Eboy- i am sorry if i contributed to the madness. I still have not seen a single NBA highlight from Last night
Jan.11 at 11:21 am
white hot eboy says:
Forget it Hisham. The only person who should have free license with the F word is
Shia. And where is that fu*er, I need to hear his game report?
Jan.11 at 11:21 am
white hot eboy says:
BET, how was the movie?
Jan.11 at 11:21 am
H to the izzo says:
Hisham-no just being irrelevant.
Jan.11 at 11:22 am
Hisham says:
Anyway, sorry if I had a part in ’sending sh*t south’. Let’s keep it positive, and i’ll read about eboy’s MJ stuff after the weekend. I’m pretty curious about that. Have a good weekend everybody, work is over
Jan.11 at 11:22 am
BETCATS says:
it was decent, i still think that Gernade would have killed all those Zombies
Jan.11 at 11:23 am
BETCATS says:
would = would not
Jan.11 at 11:24 am
white hot eboy says:
Have a good weekend, Hisham.
Jan.11 at 11:24 am
BETCATS says:
peace hishman
Jan.11 at 11:25 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
Just to chime in here, I think it is AMAZING that everyone can debate and battle around here about such important topics however, I think we should leave said topics and discussions for the appropriate posts. SLAM is the best at bringing up big topics that are affecting our society and our world. It’s tough when sometimes people are joking and others take something serious and I don’t want anyone in here reading recaps, enjoying a little banter and then getting hyped up or angry because of something that was typed in jest. One of the things that I love about the Post Up is all of the talking both ball and non-ball related that occurs. As corny as it sounds we are like a ball-family around here, so no need to differentiate or disagree because of our personal beliefs or backgrounds. I didn’t take anything that was said as disrespectful to myself, but I wouldn’t want anyone in here to feel disrespected or as though their thoughts/beliefs/background were being attacked. Lets celebrate our common love of ball and the fact that we’ve got this spot here at SLAMonline to do our thing.
Jan.11 at 11:26 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
Enjoy the weekend, Hisham.
Jan.11 at 11:27 am
d.Y. says:
Stop sweating the judging. People judge. It’s what we does. It’s even a job. Following on Keith; Yeah we get off topic, Is it a crime? Isiah told Larry Brown “Your Love is Billy King,” But Somebody already broke Billy’s heart. Out of all the NBA rhymers, I think Baron got the best Flow, the Sixers record hurts like brand new shoes, but for die hard homers, you know this is no ordinary love…. sorry… had to get that out…
Jan.11 at 11:28 am
TADOne says:
Beautiful Holly.
Jan.11 at 11:28 am
Keith says:
Amen, Holly.
Jan.11 at 11:29 am
TADOne says:
“It’s what we does”????? Slamonline: where slang happens. Eh?
Jan.11 at 11:29 am
white hot eboy says:
Amen, lady. And yes, I think of you characters as online family, so sue me.
Jan.11 at 11:29 am
BETCATS says:
Isiah told Larry Brown “Your Love is Billy King,” Larry Brown told Isiah “At least it isnt Anchula Sanders”
Jan.11 at 11:30 am
BETCATS says:
i think this is a family if i can be that crazy cousin everybody hopes doesnt show for the reunion
Jan.11 at 11:32 am
TADOne says:
We still need to work on that reunion idea. Someone make it happen.
Jan.11 at 11:32 am
H to the izzo says:
Eboy what do lawyers and sperm have in common?(back to basketball after this,sorry)
Jan.11 at 11:33 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
okay, now that we’ve all brought it down about 20 notches I think it’s safe for me to duck out for a bit!! hhaha By the time I am back you’ll probably all be starting your weekends and if so, enjoy them!
Jan.11 at 11:34 am
white hot eboy says:
Please enlighten me, Izzo.
Jan.11 at 11:34 am
BETCATS says:
a reunion? their never was a union so i do not think that would work
Jan.11 at 11:34 am
d.Y. says:
Nice one BETs. TADO, playing with language am fun. Try speakin german with spanish grammatical structure…
Jan.11 at 11:34 am
BETCATS says:
alright holly i will c u later lady.
Jan.11 at 11:35 am
white hot eboy says:
Holly, if you come back and the comment count is at 650, I’d just move on till Monday.
Jan.11 at 11:35 am
d.Y. says:
Peace HollyMac
Jan.11 at 11:35 am
TADOne says:
(Holding breath for Izzos response)
Jan.11 at 11:35 am
BETCATS says:
oh where are my manners gooten takeeen
Jan.11 at 11:35 am
H to the izzo says:
Like sperm,lawyers have a 1 in 50,000,000 chance of being an actual person at some point.
Jan.11 at 11:36 am
TADOne says:
Ok Holly, have a great weekend if we don’t see you again.
Jan.11 at 11:36 am
TADOne says:
Damnit Izzo, that was a let down.
Jan.11 at 11:37 am
BETCATS says:
like my sperm, lawyers have a 1 in 100000000000000 chance of tasting or being choclate.
Jan.11 at 11:37 am
TADOne says:
D.Y.: German with grammatical spanish structure? Ebonics has nothing on you, my man.
Jan.11 at 11:37 am
white hot eboy says:
Wow, that must go over big in the pubs in Ireland. I don’t get the sting of the joke, though. Dumb American that I am.
Jan.11 at 11:38 am
white hot eboy says:
BET’s was much better.
Jan.11 at 11:41 am
TADOne says:
Eboy, they are subjecting your Heat to the national spotlight tonight on ESPN against the Hornets.
Jan.11 at 11:42 am
white hot eboy says:
Yeah, I was offered tickets and I still haven’t decided if I’m going. There honoring the original 1989 squad tonight and I think those guys could probably pull a win out against the current ones.
Jan.11 at 11:42 am
BETCATS says:
how can the Heat get on National TV when they are cold and the Cats get on 1nce a year
Jan.11 at 11:43 am
TADOne says:
Wade BET. And Shaq, even though he ain’t playing.
Jan.11 at 11:44 am
TADOne says:
Eboy, I would go just to see CP3 ball in person.
Jan.11 at 11:44 am
white hot eboy says:
Star power and city placement.
Jan.11 at 11:45 am
white hot eboy says:
I know. I saw him last season and he was great. If Shaq was in the lineup, I’d consider it, cause at least they could keep it close, but I think NO wins by 15+.
Jan.11 at 11:45 am
BETCATS says:
yeah the treatment D-Wade gets is unreal, even if the way he plays is unrealer. I still think him and LeBron need to prove some more to me before i can say that it is fair.
Jan.11 at 11:47 am
BETCATS says:
Shaq needs to retire, become Heat GM, trade for Kobe, tell kobe “you work for me now” and laugh hystercally, trade everything accept wade/haslem/quin/cook/ricky davis for draft pick and then retire as GM because he would have destroyed the heat and made my day
Jan.11 at 11:49 am
TADOne says:
Haven’t seen him in person yet. Definitely want to make that happen. You should go anyway and just up fashionably late and leave early like everyone else does at Heat games.
Jan.11 at 11:49 am
TADOne says:
*just show up
Jan.11 at 11:50 am
white hot eboy says:
That would be funny.
Jan.11 at 11:50 am
white hot eboy says:
Both Tad’s and BET’s comments.
Jan.11 at 11:51 am
BETCATS says:
time for me to smash out, ill be back around 2:20
Jan.11 at 11:52 am
BETCATS says:
if your not here -peace
Jan.11 at 11:52 am
Jared says:
Dwade single handedly (the refs are “objective”)won a ring and LeBron is the best player in the L and has only gotten better every year, what more do u want them to prove?
Jan.11 at 11:53 am
d.Y. says:
Peace BETs, nice one to go out on. Eboy, go to the game, i oly to see the 89 squad.
Jan.11 at 12:00 pm
TADOne says:
Wait….1989 squad? So does that mean Rony Seikaly will be in the house?
Jan.11 at 12:00 pm
TADOne says:
And Timmy Hardaway?
Jan.11 at 12:04 pm
white hot eboy says:
Seikaly, yes, Hardway, not.
Jan.11 at 12:05 pm
Keith says:
Whatever happened to Matt Geiger?
Jan.11 at 12:06 pm
Keith says:
And Keith Askins?
Jan.11 at 12:06 pm
TADOne says:
You would have to go just to see Rony. I remember when he used to have a little game.
Jan.11 at 12:07 pm
Keith says:
That was only on NBA Live ‘95 though, Tad.
Jan.11 at 12:09 pm
white hot eboy says:
Rony’s at every game anyway. He’s a season ticket holder.
Jan.11 at 12:09 pm
white hot eboy says:
NBA LIVE 95 is STILL the BEST basketball video game, ever.
Jan.11 at 12:10 pm
TADOne says:
200.
Jan.11 at 12:11 pm
TADOne says:
My friend had purchased the original Nintendo from a yard sale earlier this week. Fools were playing the original Mario Brothers. Good stuff.
Jan.11 at 12:12 pm
Jared says:
That’s a great investment, nintendo was and still is the ish…and live 95 was sick. Pretty much anybody from the corner trey was money
Jan.11 at 12:13 pm
Keith says:
Eboy, you’re completely right. My favourite part of this website is still the comments section after NBA Live ‘95 was mentioned. Folks were going crazy remembering their stats and dream games. It was off…the…HOOK!
Jan.11 at 12:13 pm
d.Y. says:
2nd on that Eboy, everything fell apart from 96 on. I loved turning off the fouls and double hand checking point guards into the 3rd row. and since everybody else is, i think i’ll announce my out too. good weekend folks
Jan.11 at 12:16 pm
white hot eboy says:
Later, DY. And NOBODY fuc*ed with the Warriors 95 squad. C-Webb, Hardaway, Spree. Damn.
Jan.11 at 12:17 pm
Phil B says:
everyone knows sheed is the best player in the league when he wants to be. anything new on sheedgate?
Jan.11 at 12:17 pm
The Second Coming says:
jeez…see if we can hit 300 comments
Jan.11 at 12:23 pm
TADOne says:
Ahh yes, that ‘95 Warriors squad. If they could have kept CWebb, they would have done some things.
Jan.11 at 12:24 pm
Jared says:
Live is trash now, I think i stuck with Live through 06 just on the momentum of 95…not to mention the first crossover in a basketball video game coming in 98
Jan.11 at 12:29 pm
white hot eboy says:
Didn’t the Dreamcast have a great initial basketbll game? I remember one of my brother in laws having it and it looked great for the time.
Jan.11 at 12:33 pm
Jared says:
NBA 2k
Jan.11 at 12:33 pm
white hot eboy says:
Yeah, that’s it.
Jan.11 at 12:36 pm
Bryan says:
You guys are on f*cking fire lately.
Jan.11 at 12:44 pm
Bryan says:
And I guess I’m the extinguisher.
Jan.11 at 12:45 pm
white hot eboy says:
Anything to report?
Jan.11 at 12:46 pm
TADOne says:
Shia, How was the game?
Jan.11 at 12:47 pm
Jared says:
Anybody ever see a euro league game? They’re awesome
Jan.11 at 12:50 pm
Bryan says:
I got tossed
Jan.11 at 12:50 pm
white hot eboy says:
That’s great!!!!! Why? What half? Did you win or lose? Stats?
Jan.11 at 12:54 pm
Bryan says:
We got crushed like usu.They play me with the f*cking Jordan rules and late in the second half I got a fast break layup down like 30 and this kid gave me the Artest treatment and just outright slammed into me.I ended up with 16..but when he hit me I was in the air and I hit the ground and I looked up and he was laughing so I said “oh that’s f*cking funny?” and he went to shake my hand and like an as*hole I slapped it away and gave him a hard two handed shove that sent him sprawling.
Jan.11 at 12:56 pm
white hot eboy says:
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jan.11 at 12:56 pm
Bryan says:
So obviously the ref grabbed me and my team grabbed and I got tossed out of the gym and possibly can’t stay in the next game.
Jan.11 at 12:56 pm
Bryan says:
Play*
Jan.11 at 12:57 pm
white hot eboy says:
I would have broke his jaw, though. So I’d have been kicked out permantley and probably arrested. Shia, you need me on your squad. We’d never lose.
Jan.11 at 12:59 pm
white hot eboy says:
Actually, you need to move on from that garbage-ass team.
Jan.11 at 12:59 pm
Bryan says:
Dude it was all I could do to not just jump up with a f*cking uppercut but I’m trying to stop getting n fights I’m too old to be breaking heads all the time.
Jan.11 at 1:01 pm
Bryan says:
It’s all the chance I get to play so f*ck it. I hate losing but I’m the only one who cares so it doesn’t matter and I just want to play. I’m probably moving back to PC for a bit anyway.
Jan.11 at 1:02 pm
TADOne says:
Thats f*cking awesome! But dude, down 30 points? Who the f*ck are your teammates?
Jan.11 at 1:03 pm
white hot eboy says:
Really, it’s like you’re playing with the Heat.
Jan.11 at 1:03 pm
H to the izzo says:
I’ve said this before,Bryan you need to calm the f*ck down.But I can’t talk.
Jan.11 at 1:04 pm
Bryan says:
Well in my teams defense only 5 people showed up and one of them came for the first time ever so we have no team chemistry. But it’s no excuse. I can’t get a f*cking screen set for me to save my f*cking life. Just poor team basketball.
Jan.11 at 1:05 pm
TADOne says:
Good one Eboy.
Jan.11 at 1:05 pm
TADOne says:
So basically your playing with a bunch of cats who have never played a day of organized ball.
Jan.11 at 1:07 pm
Bryan says:
Despite their claims to the contrary TAD, that’s what I believe.
Jan.11 at 1:07 pm
RV says:
so what happened to the rockets-knicks games notes? Yao keeps getting snubbed by the media, everyone still thinks he’s soft when he hasn’t been in almost a year, he’s been dunking on guys all year and rejecting shots back into their faces and he gets no love even then. It’s Dream all over again.
Jan.11 at 1:09 pm
H to the izzo says:
I have a tournament to play tomorrow.Possibly seven games in one day.Looking forward to it.
Jan.11 at 1:10 pm
white hot eboy says:
You damn Irish like to play that “overworked” card, don’t you.
Jan.11 at 1:14 pm
H to the izzo says:
I am genuinely looking forward to it,may have to go to sleep now though.
Jan.11 at 1:15 pm
white hot eboy says:
Look at the Utah Jazz post Mutoni just put up.
Jan.11 at 1:19 pm
TADOne says:
7 games? In a day??! Wow.
Jan.11 at 1:20 pm
TADOne says:
Don’t see it Eboy.
Jan.11 at 1:26 pm
Bryan says:
So rumors that were denied today were about Z-Bo to the bucks and the Knicks being interested in Mcgrady.Would a Redd-Rockets, Tmac-knicks, Z-Bo bucks trade work?
Jan.11 at 1:28 pm
Bryan says:
Because I would take that deal especially if I was the rockets a shooter like redd would truly let the rockets run the offense through Yao because he and Redd have complementary skills. I love Tmac so I’d like to see him on the Knicks.
Jan.11 at 1:32 pm
TADOne says:
Nope, McGrady makes too much. But why would the Bucks want another big anyway?
Jan.11 at 1:33 pm
Bryan says:
I think he would work well with Bogut.
Jan.11 at 1:43 pm
Jared says:
I wish the knicks could get mcgrady
Jan.11 at 1:46 pm
Bryan says:
Tmac-18 mil, Redd-14 mil and Zach-13 mil. That could work with a spare part dude.
Jan.11 at 1:50 pm
Jared says:
I dont think the bucks would part with Redd for Z-bo though
Jan.11 at 1:51 pm
Jared says:
Rockets would prolly want malik rose and redd, bucks zbo and balkman or someone
Jan.11 at 1:51 pm
Jared says:
and even if, the talent leve