September 30, 2008 9:00 am  |  105 Comments

Lamar Odom Tells Phil Jackson Where to Shove Sixth Man Role


by Marcel Mutoni

In his first chat with the local media prior to the new season, Lakers coach Phil Jackson mentioned the fact that he might bring versatile forward Lamar Odom off the bench in 2009. Naturally, we all sat back and wondered how the emotional Odom would take the news.

Wonder no more. Odom didn’t particularly take it well, and wondered aloud about his coach’s mental stability.

From the LA Times (which has a rather amusing photo to go along with the article):

“He must have woke up and bumped his head. He probably hit his head on something — boom,” Odom said about Jackson.

“To start off like that, you’ve got to be out of your . . . mind.”

Things are off to a sunny start in Laker Land, yes?

Most of the stories coming out of the Lakers’ Media Day centered around how calm and relaxed things were compared to last year; something tells me this idea of blissful calm and serenity will change once Phil and Lamar have their first meaningful conversation during training camp.

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  • TADOne Posted: Sep.30 at 9:02 am
    This was Phil’s plan all along. He wants a disgruntled Odom so he can trade him.

  • TADOne Posted: Sep.30 at 9:04 am
    Michael Clarke Duncan is working in media now?

  • iLL 949 Posted: Sep.30 at 9:07 am
    trade him for prince

  • Ken Posted: Sep.30 at 9:19 am
    I don’t understand the ego of these players. If LO really wanted to win, he’d embrace his 6th man role, eat other teams second units, win the 6th man award, look good, and have a better shot at winning a chip. But then, this is the guy who had a star on his head last season in the hopes of making the ASG.

  • Lz - Cphfinest3 Posted: Sep.30 at 9:21 am
    Well what would one except? Odom is the typical egocentric American million-$ athlete of course he reacts in this childish manner. He should take a good look at what Manu (or Kukoc before him) are doing for the good of their teams.

  • Lz - Cphfinest3 Posted: Sep.30 at 9:22 am
    *his team.

  • Peter R. Casey Posted: Sep.30 at 9:25 am
    Hahahaha. Love the description of how Phil made his decision.

  • Hursty Posted: Sep.30 at 9:27 am
    Manu made the ASG as a 6th man in 2005 Ken…. just saying.

  • Jukai Posted: Sep.30 at 9:28 am
    I’d say something, but Ken and Lz said it for me.

  • James The Balla Posted: Sep.30 at 9:29 am
    they will figure something out … as long as Kobe Bynum and Pau are still good im happy!

  • Clockwork Posted: Sep.30 at 9:32 am
    I’m sure Lamar will calm down after Phil Jax gives him a few books to read.

  • Clockwork Posted: Sep.30 at 9:33 am
    Or hypnotize him

  • Bigi Posted: Sep.30 at 9:37 am
    Why So Seriousss,Lamar!I’m sure Zenmaster is just kiddin’…Or not!Monkey King In Da House!!!

  • Z Posted: Sep.30 at 9:39 am
    Never quite understood why it mattered so much in basketball whether you start the game or not. I mean it’s not like soccer or baseball where you can’t sub in and out. At the end of the day, if you’re logging some serious burn and you’re on the floor in crunch time… who cares?! Is it the goosebumps he gets when his name gets called during the intros? That’s some hoe sh…

  • neaorin Posted: Sep.30 at 9:41 am
    I wish Lamar would stop tiptoeing around the subject and tell us how he really feels.

  • fluxland Posted: Sep.30 at 9:50 am
    Who knows what kind of stuff I’d be saying bumping my head on Jeanie Buss every morning… trade Kobe.. bring back Kwame.. whatever..

  • andrew Posted: Sep.30 at 9:58 am
    That headline made me spit. I didn’t expect such a swift and harsh response from Lamar. Now. Stop whining and do something constructive like ACTUALLY PLAY LIKE WE KNOW YOU CAN*, Lamar, then start talking about whether or not you think you should start. *apologies for the caps, but I feel like that needed to be shouty.

  • Jukai Posted: Sep.30 at 10:05 am
    He should do what all the Europeans are doing who aren’t getting enough burn time and just head to Europe.

  • Jeronimo Posted: Sep.30 at 10:17 am
    LOL. And co-sign andrew

  • Bruno Posted: Sep.30 at 10:31 am
    NO WAY Lamar said that!
    hahahahahah
    is that true?!!??!
    hahahahahahha
    i’m laughing so much here!
    this can’t be true!
    if thats really true, i move Lamar to #5 in my list and i’ll never say he doesn’t have balls anymore!
    hahahahahahahahahahhahha

  • Ken Posted: Sep.30 at 10:32 am
    Hursty: My point exactly! Somebody should point out to LO that you can win a chip, look good, and make the ASG by playing in the second unit. Or if he wanted an example of somebody at his position, McHale won 6th man and a chip in 1984. LO really needs to realize that he’s on a team with a legit shot at winning, and helping his team win won’t even be that bad for him personally (statistically and otherwise).

  • KA Posted: Sep.30 at 10:45 am
    its all part of the plan. /zen joker

  • jay Posted: Sep.30 at 10:56 am
    Listen, Phil is untouchable. This war of words between Phil & LO is like Jay Z battling Soulja Boy. wait a minute…

  • Allenp Posted: Sep.30 at 10:58 am
    Who would they start at the three instead of Lamar? Walton, Vlad or Ariza? If I was Lamar I would want the chance to compete for a starting role over those three cats. Now, I wouldn’t pout, but I’d want the opportunity to prove that I deserve to start over them.

  • d-mo Posted: Sep.30 at 11:02 am
    After the finals, I’m with big Phil

  • B. Long Posted: Sep.30 at 11:34 am
    First of all Phil never said that L.O. was definitely coming off the bench. Everyone is acting like he already reserved a seat next to L.O. for the start of every game next year. It was just an idea. You know, those things that pop into peoples heads that sometimes never happen. L.O. didn’t say anything crazy either. He’s obviously at least the 4th best player on this team and if he just didn’t care at all about starting I’d be worried. EVERY player that is worth a sh!t wants to start and L.O. just feels like he is definitely more capable than any other small forward on the team. I LOVE Ariza but he’s not quite ready to start but I honestly think he could make huge contributions off the bench for about 15-20 min. a night next year. This is just the basketball world trying to make a story and cause some controversy in L.A. because they love drama in Lakertown. Heavy is the (Western Conf.) crown I guess.

  • mat smith Posted: Sep.30 at 11:34 am
    doesnt he get paid the same off the bench? or will his boyz in da hood rib him now or something? ego…ego…ego…ego…

  • TADOne Posted: Sep.30 at 11:37 am
    “He must have woke up and bumped his head. He probably hit his head on something — boom,” Odom said about Jackson. “To start off like that, you’ve got to be out of your . . . mind.”
    Um B, these are direct quotes.

  • BETCATS Posted: Sep.30 at 11:42 am
    Lamar,
    it might be true Phil was out of his mine, but you choked like one of Wayne Brady’s b!tches.
    Sincerley,
    Me

  • BETCATS Posted: Sep.30 at 11:43 am
    *its suppose to say ‘in the finals’ after Wayne Brady’s b’s.

  • TADOne Posted: Sep.30 at 11:49 am
    It’s supposed to say MIND as well.

  • Sesa Posted: Sep.30 at 11:50 am
    If Lamar can shoot 3s consistently he will be the starting SF

  • Young C Posted: Sep.30 at 11:52 am
    If you were going into a contract year, would you want to come off the bench?

  • Sesa Posted: Sep.30 at 11:52 am
    I’d rather start Pau Gasol from the bench though, Lamar is not exactly the scorer they need from the bench

  • B. Long Posted: Sep.30 at 11:58 am
    I know Tad. But its more of a joke than him being like “fu(k this, I ain’t coming off no fu(king bench”. Besides, this is what Phil wanted anyways. He’s trying to start a fire under his ass. It’s really a nonstory. If people need something interesting to read they should click on your name. Whoever wrote that article is brilliant!

  • Keith Posted: Sep.30 at 12:09 pm
    This is one reason why I dislike football/soccer so much. The players inability to see the bigger picture. Lamar wants to start - big surprise but if the possibility to start is taken away what is he likely to do? Judging from his comments the answer is ’sulk’. He should probably work hard and prove Jackson wrong.

  • TADOne Posted: Sep.30 at 12:11 pm
    It’s still at 5 comments cowboy, so slow down. I honestly don’t think it’s much of a story either, but knowing your purple and gold love you seem to be trying to play it down more than most. There are about 3 other stories posted today that are non-stories as well. Hey, it’s the offseason. Surprise!

  • Sparker Posted: Sep.30 at 12:20 pm
    after the finals, lamar should be coming in real, real humble

  • Anton Posted: Sep.30 at 12:27 pm
    @TADOne lol I thought so too

  • k.o. Posted: Sep.30 at 12:31 pm
    Phil’s no idiot, he knows that by saying those things lamar will hear about it and react just as he did. Just another way for the Zen master to light a fire under one of his under-achievers and give him motivation to get his ass in gear

  • Jukai Posted: Sep.30 at 12:51 pm
    BLong and Allenp just don’t get it.

  • DP Posted: Sep.30 at 12:56 pm
    I don’t blame LO for going off and it looks like it’s going to be some conflict in the Lakers front. Maybe phil is trying to motivate the guy. It’s weird to me too.

  • tinchek Posted: Sep.30 at 12:59 pm
    you tell him big fella. i’m on your side

  • Diogo Posted: Sep.30 at 1:35 pm
    Lamar “Boom” Odom.

  • Antwonomous Posted: Sep.30 at 1:45 pm
    So now we know that Lamar isn’t COMPLETELY unselfish. Considering what we knew about his personality I figured he’d have no problem with coming off the bench.

  • Allenp Posted: Sep.30 at 1:45 pm
    No, we just don’t agree with you….Who starts and doesn’t start is ultimately the coach’s decision. But, as a player, you want the opportunity to compete for a starting role. Very few players are ok with being bench players. Plus, the three players that would start in Lamar’s place all have issues that are as great as his own. Walton and Vlad bring shooting, but neither plays a lick of defense and both tend to sulk. Ariza brings defense, but lacks any other skill besides hustle. Lamar can still post smaller threes, knock down the occassional jumpshot and rebound better than most of the league. If I was him I would be upset with being sent to the bench (a clear sign of dissatisfication from Phil Jackson). Jackson is using Odom and people’s perception of Odom to justify a move that doesn’t make a whole bunch of basketball sense.

  • Allenp Posted: Sep.30 at 1:48 pm
    That was for Jukai.

  • underdog Posted: Sep.30 at 1:49 pm
    I don’t like Odom’s response, because it seems like he thinks too much about himself, like Ben “contractless” Gordon. But I have to admit, I don’t think Jackson’s idea of replacing Odom with Ariza (like the dude, but please) is simply stupid. Of course he is the coach, so hi is setting the pace, and you have to respect that.

  • Allenp Posted: Sep.30 at 1:52 pm
    Lamar playing the three creates an instant matchup problem every night. That’s another double team the opposing squad has to account for in addition to the double teams Gasol and Kobe are likely to draw. While the team would hurt for shooting with Odom and Bynum on the floor, I think Kobe, Fisher and Farmar can pick up the slack. Now, Phil could be planning to bring Odom off the bench to back up Gasol, but considering how many minutes Gasol is expected to play, that would be a huge demotion for Odom. I can see why he would be upset that he is being demoted, particularly when the people replacing him are not better than him.

  • B. Long Posted: Sep.30 at 2:11 pm
    Allenp gets it. @Jukai:Lamar isn’t a Manu or Barbosa type player. His contributions come primarily from consistent rebounding and good passing which requires starters minutes to really reap the benefits from. He’s not gonna come off the bench and drop 21 pts. in 22 mins.

  • B. Long Posted: Sep.30 at 2:13 pm
    @Jukai: You seem a little lost today, Juky. You should click on my name and get your knowledge up son. We all know how much you love blogs!

  • Jukai Posted: Sep.30 at 2:19 pm
    I agree with the rebounding part, he is a massive benefit in terms of getting rebounds. However, that will quickly diminish with a nimble seven footer slinking around the high key and a massive seven footer locked down in the paint. Lamar Odom’s rebounding ability will drop. Lamar also is terrible half-court point guard, doing most of his passing in the on the break or with enough room to operate. Once again, with two seven footers, the chances of him operating like this are slim.

  • Jukai Posted: Sep.30 at 2:24 pm
    Besides, how do you know he isn’t a Manu or a Barbosa? He’s never been PUT into that situation, mostly because his ego wont let him get put there. When Kobe was injured in the beginning of the 2006-2007 season, Odom was the freaking man, scoring on pop-ups and awesome drives. Exactly how many opportunities is this man going to get when his touches fall behind Kobe Bryant, THEN Pau Gasol, THEN Andrew Bynum? Not a whole helluva lot. If it IS his contract year, it would make far more sense to come off the bench.
    1) it shows that he’s willing to listen to anything the coach tells him
    2) off the bench, he will be playing with scoring GIANTS like Farmar and Walton and Mbengu. He can get all the shots he wants off the bench. He can score his average in points alone in the second quarter.
    3) He WILL be small forward when the fourth quarter comes around. He WILL be in the game when the score is tied and the Lakers have the ball, he will also be in the game if the score is tied and the other team has the ball. He is a key player and will be played as a key player. It is, in my opinion, not a good move to have four strong offensively minded players on the court together with no one to bring off the bench. That is not a good idea. People will see him in the fourth quarter and forget that his name wasn’t announced.

  • Jukai Posted: Sep.30 at 2:31 pm
    Lamar does not average 48 minutes a game. Making him play five minutes in the first and twelve minutes in the second will NOT effect the time he gets. That’s just a silly argument.
    I’m more in agreement with Allenp than with you B Long. He gets the need for a bench scoring option, but he suggests Gasol. I don’t agree with that for three reasons:
    1) (IF THEY CAN PLAY TOGETHER), the match-up problems playing both Bynum and Gasol will be a thing of beauty. Take out Gasol, throw in Odom and Ariza/Vlad/Walton, and you have a standard, easily matched up team.
    2) I think Odom will be a much more effective off-the-bench guy than Gasol. Odom can score in so many ways, he doesn’t need to be fed to knock you out. Gasol, on the other hand, needs either someone to feed him or for other players to spread the floor. In actuality, me wanting Odom over Gasol coming off the bench is a compliment. Odom’s versitility makes him perfect for this role.
    3) You may feel that Ariza is a weak link in this equation, but if he develops into what the Lakers are hoping he will be, I think Ariza is perfect. This is a guy who is NOT looking to take shots. He’s not looking to control the ball. He is not looking for a contract. This guy will do the two things he is good at: being the occasional open man, and being a DAMN good defensive player. With a starting five of Fisher, Kobe, a more developed Ariza, Gasol (well, he’s seven feet, y’know), and Bynum is a scaaaaaary defensive force.
    Also, upset or not, Odom’s response was a bit aggressive.

  • Jukai Posted: Sep.30 at 2:37 pm
    Also, you should click on MY orange name and read MY awesome blog

  • Mack Posted: Sep.30 at 2:44 pm
    Hey im okay with Lamar odom as sixth man. He did nothing in the playoffs last season to prove that he was a starter

  • Allenp Posted: Sep.30 at 2:44 pm
    ACtually, I wasn’t suggesting they bring Gasol off the bench. I was saying that it’s likely that Odom will be backing up Gasol, not whoever is playing the three since the Lakers don’t have a really viable option at the four off the bench. However, moving Odom to that spot could cause some problems since it might mean a serious reduction in his minutes if Phil really doesn’t want him on the floor at the same time as Gasol and Bynum. If Phil thinks that Lamar doens’t gel with the the team as a three, than that’s a really big problem for Lamar in a contract year. Basically, I don’t think Lamar is being selfish, I think he’s being normal. I could see myself having the same reaction as a player.

  • Jukai Posted: Sep.30 at 2:51 pm
    Sorry, misread Allenp. Yet, wouldn’t your first reaction as a player be to go and talk with your coach and get reassurance that your minutes aren’t going to be effected and that you’re still going to be playing fourth quarter minutes, etc. etc… rather than openly calling your coach crazy to the media? I mean, during a contract year, you don’t want to question your coach, which i’m sure a lot of GMs have noted.

  • adelpho3 Posted: Sep.30 at 2:56 pm
    Well if im L.O then i would def take the challenge because that’s exactly what that is a challengse,the 6 man on any basketball team is the most deficult position because you are the first player off the bench and you have to be better than some of your staters and you have to bring all the energy for your squad,I have 2 names to confirm my argument-Ben Gordon and Manu Ganobli, the only reason ego players wanna start is becasue it sounds better to say but that does’nt mean your a better player and 6 man man does’nt mean you taking a back seat,your attitude should be that you wanna do whatever it takes for your team to win.Nuff Respect from The Bahamas

  • the baconator Posted: Sep.30 at 2:59 pm
    Damn Lamar, don’t be so mean. That was way cold man; I don’t think Phil could have a comeback to that amazing burn

  • BETCATS Posted: Sep.30 at 3:14 pm
    why cant this work C-Bynum PF-Gasol SF- Odom SG- Kobe PG- Fisher or Farmar or the Monkey King

  • Allenp Posted: Sep.30 at 3:19 pm
    Jukai, Phil Jackson openly discussed benching Lamar to the media without discussing it with him before hand. Why would Phil allow that type of information to be passed along through the media? Wouldn’t a professional supervisor take an employee aside and discuss an impending job change with him?…I don’t think Lamar behaved particularly poorly considering the circumstances. Most people have just been conditioned to view coaches as authority figures who have carte blanche to handle things the way they want…People criticize players for complaining to the media, but coaches do it all the time without being blamed.

  • Jukai Posted: Sep.30 at 3:21 pm
    While I agree with you on this Allenp, I wouldn’t change anything I previously said: to all the GMs and coaches out there, it is fine for a coach to say something to the media without discussing it with the player, but if the player says something about the coach to the media, that’s a negative in the scouting books.

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Sep.30 at 3:26 pm
    Psh, what does Phil Jackson know, he’s only a Hall of Fame coach who’s won nine championships.

  • riggs Posted: Sep.30 at 3:34 pm
    tell him how his 6th man taste?

  • B. Long Posted: Sep.30 at 3:42 pm
    I think Allenp just wanted to bench Gasol because he’s white. lol

  • B. Long Posted: Sep.30 at 3:42 pm
    Well, he’s kinda white.

  • Jukai Posted: Sep.30 at 3:46 pm
    He’s EUROPEAN B. Long, there is a difference!!!

  • Allenp Posted: Sep.30 at 3:52 pm
    I never said bench Gasol….And Russ, Barry Switzwer has won an NFL championship.

  • Allenp Posted: Sep.30 at 3:55 pm
    As I said several times, coaches decide who plays. But, that doesn’t mean coaches should float lineup changes through the media. More importantly, if a coach makes that decision, I don’t have a problem with a player responding in kind.
    Like another poster said, Phil Jackson probably thought this would make Lamar fired up to play, or he thought it would make Lamar look bad to the public when he responded with anger. Either way, it’s not big deal for Phil Jackson…I’m just disappointed that people think players should just shut up and play, while coaches can say whatever they please. This dynamic needs to change. These aren’t children, these are adults.

  • B. Long Posted: Sep.30 at 3:57 pm
    @Allenp: For sure. I pretty much agree with everything you’ve said today.

  • B. Long Posted: Sep.30 at 3:59 pm
    Except that Barry Switzer line. Don’t dare compare the Zen Master to the biggest douche to ever disgrace the sideline of the Dallas Cowboys. He singlehandly ruined a dynasty that was handed to him in two years.

  • TADOne Posted: Sep.30 at 4:07 pm
    I think the only thing I may hate more than the Lakers is the Cowboys. If someone wants, i’ll just videotape someone beating me in the head with a wrench instead.

  • Allenp Posted: Sep.30 at 4:12 pm
    wrench please

  • Jukai Posted: Sep.30 at 4:21 pm
    I personally believe if everyone was siding with Lamar Odom on this, Allenp would say that he acted immaturely and should just shut up and play how the coach wants him to play.

  • Sarah Posted: Sep.30 at 4:29 pm
    What an idiot. After all those blown layups and missed freethrows in the conference finals last year, he should just shut up and be glad he’s still on a playoff team. And Phil Jackson can quit using his manipulative “zenmaster” BS in attempt to mindf*ck his players any day now. Communicating with your players through the media is petty and immature.

  • mat smith Posted: Sep.30 at 4:41 pm
    that is what I was was just gonna type Russ, he is only going to run out of fingers for rings, Russell style….

  • Allenp Posted: Sep.30 at 4:42 pm
    Jukai, have you ever seen me say that a player should just shut up and play?

  • Allenp Posted: Sep.30 at 4:43 pm
    I’ve disagree with what players have said, remember the Bogut comments, but I’ve never said they should just shut up and play. That’s disrespectful to them as adults with adult opinions…

  • asmatic asiatic Posted: Sep.30 at 4:55 pm
    Manu did it with no problems….

  • Michael Posted: Sep.30 at 5:05 pm
    If anyone should be coming off the bench it should be Bynum. Lamar is too important to the starting 5, he gets those boards and starts the break and he’s an excellent passere which is what makes the starting 5 so dangerous. Bynum and farmer had excellent chemistry coming off the bench alst year and they would dominate other teams second untits.

  • Jukai Posted: Sep.30 at 5:06 pm
    Allenp, unfortunately, that is life. I had thought my boss has had a LOT of dumb ideas, but I do them anyway. He has a habit of telling me to do things without telling me what is actually trying to be accomplished, and more than half the time, I only learn what I’m doing through other co-workers. My only option is to quit and find another job. Likewise, that’s Odom’s only option to. He either follows what his boss says, to his face or not, or he stops playing and tries to find another job which wont pay him nearly as much.

  • Moose Posted: Sep.30 at 5:37 pm
    I still hate Lamar Odom with a burning passion.

  • MyKal Posted: Sep.30 at 5:55 pm
    Why Moose? What did he do to you?

  • Moose Posted: Sep.30 at 5:59 pm
    He doesn’t try hard enough, plays dirty, doesn’t tuck his shirt in, says stuff that it sort of contraversial like on this page, and I just plain don’t like him.

  • MyKal Posted: Sep.30 at 6:00 pm
    Not to throw fuel on an already burning Moose-fire, but I can’t believe that Lamar said those things out loud. You don’t disrespect your coach like that (EVER!), especially not to the media. He should have arranged a meeting with Phil and talked it over. I don’t know if this aids or ruins my point but for future reference; I believe there was nothing wrong with what Phil said to the media about Lamar.

  • MyKal Posted: Sep.30 at 6:03 pm
    Fair enough, Moose. Hate-away. Sidenote: Lamar gets 14 mill, that’s bigtime cash, a litte TOO bigtime for Lamar though.

  • Allenp Posted: Sep.30 at 6:15 pm
    If that’s really how you view problems at work, you need to do a better job of researching your rights as an employee. Just saying….And a coach is a baskebtall player’s supervisor, not their boss. The boss is closer to the GM or owner since they actually have the power to “fire” a player.

  • B. Long Posted: Sep.30 at 6:23 pm
    If I ever get discriminated against in the workplace, I’m emailing Allenp.

  • Jukai Posted: Sep.30 at 6:33 pm
    Hahaha, my rights as an employee. Good one Allenp. I’ll be reading those rights over and over again at the unemployment line.

  • Z Posted: Sep.30 at 6:42 pm
    The boss-employee analogy doesn’t really work in professional sports because marquee ‘employees’ get their ‘bosses’ fired all the time.

  • B. Long Posted: Sep.30 at 6:45 pm
    I think it’s called the Jason Kidd Rule?

  • Dacre Posted: Sep.30 at 7:38 pm
    It was just like when Phil Jackson started Harper over Kukoc…YOU KNEW Kukoc wanted that starting spot - and he tended to play better when he started…BUT the team performed better as a unit when he supported the bench, LO could do the exact same thing and he’s numbers would probably not drop off that much in any event.

  • Eboy Posted: Sep.30 at 9:00 pm
    Allen’s lucky he doesn’t work in the right-to work-paradise known as Florida. He would be bouncing from job to job like D-Wade bouncing off Mavs in ‘06. There is NO employee rights here, my man. Sucks bad, but it’t the law.

  • T WANA Posted: Sep.30 at 9:02 pm
    To me it was only a matter of time but it was still a stupid descision to me because if I were Phil jackson I would keep LO on the bench cause if pau gets injured then you can have an excellent back up rebounder and then if Bynum gets injured again you put odom at center, Besides odom plays better when he comes off the bench.

  • Orlando Posted: Sep.30 at 10:53 pm
    This is bogus…just Phil trying to motivate Odom…..theres no one else on that team that can start at SF….I mean come on….Walton or Radmanovic aren’t starting before Odom. Lakers are scary this year….if Sun Yue is for real and has any kind of “OK” season…it’s over!

  • CP34MVP Posted: Sep.30 at 11:22 pm
    Tad… U actually think Mr.Phil wants 2 trade Odom.. C’Mon now he’s smarter than you give him credit 4

  • K-Dawgg Posted: Sep.30 at 11:47 pm
    Odom is one of the most overrated player in the league. He can’t defend, can’t shoot a j or a 3 and is soft as tissue. The only reason he is popular is because he hides out under the hoop and grabs boards. I still think he is the best SF on that team though. If the Lakers were smart they would trade him. There are a lot of bad teams that would bite for that bait. I bet the Lakers are missing Caron Butler right about now. I can’t imagine how good they would be with Butler at the SF position with the rest of their current lineup.

  • Crook Posted: Oct.1 at 10:15 am
    Phil is leaving options open so Odom should chill since he NEVER lived up to the hype coming into the L. He has turned out to be a multi-skilled player although he has yet to show it when it counts most. It’s not always about being the best player when it comes to starting, it’s often what the team would benefit from that dictates who starts. It’s often smart to have a “starter” come off the bench to spark the team and destroy the opponents 2nd unit. If he’d think in terms of basketball and not ego he’d understand.

  • Shelton Posted: Oct.1 at 11:52 am
    Has anyone seen the pics of Bynum? Dude looks like he is on steroids.

  • Z Posted: Oct.1 at 3:26 pm
    Jackson also offered this little dig when asked about the possible bench role motivating Odom to work harder: “I don’t know. I’ve never seen Lamar motivated before.” Ouch.

  • ciolkstar Posted: Oct.1 at 6:33 pm
    Manu and Odom should never be in the same sentence. Unless that sentence is about Manu scoring on and getting fouled by Odom. But really, they are opposites. Manu wants to win, Odom wants to be an All Star. Thats the difference.

  • ciolkstar Posted: Oct.1 at 6:35 pm
    Jackson also offered this little dig when asked about the possible bench role motivating Odom to work harder: “I don’t know. I’ve never seen Lamar motivated before.” Ouch. EXACTLY!!!!!! Someone trade this guy to Oklahoma City already so I can forget he ever existed.

  • Darksaber Posted: Oct.1 at 9:25 pm
    Reverse psychology in perfection. Chalk one up for the Zen Bro. I guess Lamar’s gone by the deadline, baaaad decision unless Luke and Trevor are ready for the bright lights (would be about time too)

  • chintao Posted: Oct.7 at 5:21 am
    Phuck Fil.

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