Links: Game Notes: Team USA 120, Lithuania 84
Uh-oh…D-Wade is back…
Morning. It’s Day 2 of Team USA’s Macau Adventure, and this morning they’re faving off against Lithuania. I’ve been practicing typing names that end with “-ivius” and “-vicius.”
And we’re off…
• Certainly Lithuania is going to throw a zone at Team USA, because I really can’t recall Turkey doing it at all against the US. And we all know that for no good reason, zones keep screwing up Team USA.
• Lithuania comes out man-to-man and Kobe hits a long two.
• Sarunas! Jasikevicius! I think Barack co-opted his last name. Anyway, he’s balling for Lithuania. I missed Fran Fraschilla and Rick Kamla’s starting line-ups for today’s game, as well as Kamla’s international basketball fantasy impact reports.
• Dwight Howard. Dunk. Then Dwight Howard. And One. Frashcilla calls him “265 pounds of live wire.” Reminds me of when Clyde Frazier called Chris Kaman “250 pounds of…fiasco.”
• Hello, Robertas Javtokas! My man looks like Andris Biedrins, but he just threw down a hammer dunk in the halfcourt offense. Wow. everyone cleared out of the way on that one.
• Dwight again. Then Kidd sags on a pick-and-roll and gets a steal and throws it out to Bron for a dunk. So we’re like two minutes in and the score is 10-2, Team USA. I’m sure the Lithuania coach loves this start. Timeout.
• And out of the timeout, LeBron gets a steal and runs out for a dunk. Kidd gets a strip on the break off Kaukenis (who played at Seton Hall). Then Kaukenis misses a J and Kidd gets a breakaway layup.
• Javtokas picks up his second foul, and Lithuania goes to a 2-3 zone. Kobe dribbles through the zone and gets a lay-up. So that didn’t work.
• Linas Kleiza checks in, and somewhere David Thorpe begins writing a sidebar for ESPN.com about how Kleiza should be starting in the NBA. Meanwhile, they turn it over again and Dwight gets a lay-up, and one. The score is 18-5 now.
• Next game is Sunday morning at 3:00 a.m. against Russia. Will I be awake for that one? Hmm…
• Dwight hits the free throw. He’s got 9 and 3. It’s 19-5 with 4:57 left in the first.
• Think Team USA could get some tighter jerseys?
• Team USA subs in Chris Paul and Dwyane Wade, and Kleiza immediately hacks Dwight Howard after a missed shot. That George Karl defense is hard to shake.
• Kobe wets a three. 24-5, with 3:20 left in the first. Wonder if Team USA can hold them to single-digits in the first quarter.
• Break up Lithuania! A two from the wing makes it 24-7. Then Team USA gets Wade on a run out and eventually Dwight gets fouled.
• Bosh checks in for Dwight, and Deron Williams and Melo come in a well. Melo immediately drills Kleiza on a drive to the rim.
• Kleiza kinda has a new look, with a longer buzz cut and beard. His new nickname is “Eastern Promises.”
• Kleiza’s free throws give them 9 points. Team USA comes down and passively attacks the zone. The shot clock runs down and finally Chris Paul tosses up a jumper while doubled…and drains it.
• Lithuania returns and finds Petravicius in the post. He spins and shoots over Bosh, and D-Wade comes from the weak side and swats the jumper about twelve feet away.
• And there it is, a basket by Petravicius makes it 11 points, breaking the double-digit barrier.
• D-Wade looks amazing, by the way. This is two games in a row for him (the only back-to-back of the summer for Team USA, actually) and he’s looked aggressive and like he used to look with Miami back in 2005.
• Bosh gets a dunk against the zone to end the first, making it 31-15 after one. Looks like night and day from Game One against Turkey.
• The second starts and Bosh proves he still can’t guard anyone one-on-one under the rim.
• Chris Paul rips Jasikevicius in the open court and Mike Redd checks in. USA inbounds the ball before Lithuania can set up and Redd pops a three from the corner over the zone. Jasikevicius hits a three in return. Then Siskauskas hits a three from the top. They’ve cut it to 36-23 with 7:17 left. LeBron’s back in at the 4, and Kobe and Dwight check in, too. Here we go.
• 5 straight with this line-up. 41-25.
• LeBron guards Jasikevicius and rips him in the open court. Then Kobe pokes a ball loose. Eventually my man Javtokas gets loose and pounds another dunk. When he’s completely uncovered and all alone, he’s a powerful dunker. I get the feeling that if he was in the NBA, however, he wouldn’t be completely uncovered and all alone very much.
• Melo hits a three over the zone, giving the US a 48-31 lead with 3:31 left.
• Starbury’s awake. Just pointing that out.
• Team USA is remarkably better at goaltending now than they’ve ever been in the past. I write that because LeBron remembers to knock a ball off the rim in time to save a basket, and they toss it out to Kobe for an alley oop.
• By the way, Dwyane Wade is bringing the tights back.
• LeBron catches in traffic on the break and rips off an amazing 360, in traffic, but misses the lay-up. D-Wade ends up on the floor fighting for the loose ball.
• Lithuania hits a three out of a timeout to make it 50-37, with the first half almost over.
• Redd from the corner, bang!
• As the half winds down, Bosh hits a lefty hook shot in the paint while being hacked.
•Halftime, 56-39. Most relevant stat: assists — USA 18, Lithuania 7.
• Lithuania stays zone and scores six straight, then Bron hits a three from the top of the key. Then Kaukenis gets a three, Then Melo a layup. A flurry of offense. 61-48, USA. Javtokas almost gets loose for another dunk but Kidd fouls him. Javtokas’s nickname is The Shark, it seems. Hey, it is Shark Week, isn’t it?
• Jasikevicius hits a three, making it 61-52. Team USA looks tired for the first time. Maybe the back-to-back is catching up to them.
• Coach K looks like he has two black eyes, for some reason, except his eyes are really red instead of black. Strange. Maybe he fell asleep in the tanning bed or something.
• Pekrevicius gets loose under the rim and scores to cut it to 10, and Team USA score 4 straight on two fastbreaks. Team USA leads by 14. Then Team USA rips Lithuania on the inbounds and Kobe flips an oop to Bron. Melo scores in transition, and then Dwight blocks a shot and Melo gets fouled on a runout. I think this ends Lithuania’s run. Time for me to make another espresso.
• Rick Kamla and Fran Fraschilla start talking about the X Games, and Fraschilla shouts out Danny Way, who apparently took a huge spill at the X Games. Fraschilla notes he’s sure “he’ll bounce back, so to speak.” Now he needs to make a joke about Kobe’s backdoor ability.
• Kobe gets a run out dunk to make it 75-55 with 4 minutes left in the third. That’s a 14-3 run by the USA.
• Deron Williams might be our designated zone buster. He’s not shooting over it, but he’s able to drive around and through guys and hit the open players. He just went through the paint and found Bron for an open layup.
• Then he turned it over in the open court.
• A three from Wade makes it 80-59, then tips a ball away and leaps over the scorer’s table.
• Ah ha! Kamla just mentioned that they’re announcing the game from the US! First time anyone’s ever acknowledged this.
• 82-63, with 1:50 left in the third.
• D-Wade and Chris Paul connect for an oop, then Wade hits a three in transition. Lithuania empties the bench with 1 minute left in the third. Wade drives and scores again as the third ends. Team USA leads 91-66 after three.
• What’s going right today? Well, I don’t have any stats in front of me, but Team USA’s defense has been feral, almost completely opposite from the Turkey game.
• Um, Wade just hit a three from the corner. No idea how many points he has but, well, it’s a lot.
• Deron Williams just pwned somebody and got to the rim for a lay-up. BTW, Team USA’a blowout lineup is Chris Paul, Deron Williams, D-Wade, Tayshaun Prince and Chris Bosh.
• Oh! D-Wade just did a two-handed windmill on an oop from Chris Paul. Wow. That was ridiculous. If there was ever any doubt, Wade is definitely back. I hear sighs from the Converse PR office in Chicago.
• 98-71, with 7:33 to go in the game. Coach K inserts the human victory cigar, Carlos Boozer, who is really not built for international play — too short to match-up inside and too slow to play on the perimeter.
• Fraschilla keeps talking about how short the international three-point line is by saying for NBA players, the international three is like a “mid-range” jumper. This paints a nice mental picture, but it’s not like the three-point line is 15 feet from the rim, and from the corners it’s almost identical to an NBA three.
• By the way, the USA is ahead 110-78. Starbury went to sleep again.
• Boozer gets a dunk, pushing the lead to 35.
• Kamla tells the story again of how Kobe wanted to shut down Venezuela’s Greivous Vasquez in the Tournament of the Americas last summer. Kamla notes, “Vasquez didn’t have too much in that basketball game.” And the day after that game last year, the LA Times had a similar story about how Kobe was shutting down Vasquez — but I was at that game and Kobe was in foul trouble early and Vasquez ended up leading Venezuela in scoring. I’m just saying…
• 118-84, with 1:01 to go. Michael Redd is running up his scoring average.
• Chris Paul with the dunk! Then with the shot clock running down and a two second differential, CP just dribbles out the shot clock and takes the turnover.
• Final score, 120-84. No stat review or anything, so I can’t tell you who had what, but I can say that D-Wade is back, which might be the most important thing we learned today.
461 Responses to “Links: Game Notes: Team USA 120, Lithuania 84”
Aug.1 at 10:07 am
Hugo says:
first
Aug.1 at 10:10 am
Sesa says:
P*ussy! I just watched the game. Chris Bosh is soft as hell
Aug.1 at 10:11 am
Sesa says:
And D-Wade is shooting silky smooth three If I may add
Aug.1 at 10:13 am
Calvin Cambridge says:
Spain is going to destroy us.
Aug.1 at 10:16 am
Darksaber says:
“Wade is back”. That’s the understatement of the year. Whoever cut up his knee and shoulder, could you please do mine as well, because WADE IS MORE ATHLETIC THAN EVER! And he was a freak to begin with. The hangtime’s longer, the way he explodes to the hoop, and now he’s shooting (FIBA) three pointers with ease? And the windmill off the alley oop was SICK! Lithuania’s players got the FLU off that one (sorry Jet). SICK!!!
Aug.1 at 10:18 am
Sesa says:
FIBA 3 point line were closer and the rim is shorter mind you…
Aug.1 at 10:18 am
Eboy says:
How will will it take for people to suck D-Wade’s co*k once the season starts? Remember, he was done, right? Dropped out of the top 50 players in the league? Yeah, I remember all the insults too. We’ll see. Morons.
Aug.1 at 10:18 am
Darksaber says:
Spain is willing to try. really, let em. They are softer than charming toilet paper. Gasol’s gonna whine, Calderon will distribute and flop (good luck against CP3 and Deron) and Garbajosa…eh, who cares what he does? The only teams the US should be wary of are Argentinia (for obvious reasons) and Greece (those cheating, whining, flopping, grabbing, screaming masters of FIBA Ball)
Aug.1 at 10:19 am
T says:
man i realy missed wade glad to see that he is finally back and that windmill alley-oop was sick
Aug.1 at 10:20 am
Darksaber says:
Sorry Eboy. Flash fan for life. was praying at midseason that he’d get himself some cut up and not mess with his longtime health by playing through the injuries. Good decision Flash. Bienvenue, indeed!
Aug.1 at 10:21 am
Calvin Cambridge says:
@ Darksaber - Ricky Rubio.
Aug.1 at 10:21 am
Eboy says:
I wasn’t referencing you, Darksaber, there were a ton of other people that will have to watch his return and contemplate their silly words once the Olympics end and the season begins.
Aug.1 at 10:22 am
Darksaber says:
@ Sesa. “the rim is shorter”? huh? please enlighten me.
Aug.1 at 10:23 am
Michael says:
the rim is shorter, really? that sounds totally incorrect
Aug.1 at 10:24 am
Eboy says:
Oh, and was Lithuania another major roadblock for the US? Anyone? This team has the makeup of a classic dominating team. Can start strong, build a big lead and just pick a team apart throughout or stay even for a little bit and then make on the fly changes and get a big run to salt away a game in a 5 minute span.
Aug.1 at 10:24 am
Darksaber says:
Oh, ok then Eboy. I know you are Slamonline’s Number 1 Heat fan (i like em too, slightly less than the Mavs, imagine my trepidation two Finals ago…arrrrgh). Well people are entitled to their misconceptions right? Let the sucking up begin.
Aug.1 at 10:24 am
Eboy says:
I don’t think the rim’s shorter either.
Aug.1 at 10:25 am
Eboy says:
Sorry for any confusion Dark.
Aug.1 at 10:25 am
Myles Brown says:
Half of the Wade insults last year were from eboy himself.
Aug.1 at 10:26 am
Jukai says:
You guys listened to something Sesa said and thought it was the truth? are you guys crazy?
Aug.1 at 10:26 am
Eboy says:
Liar.
Aug.1 at 10:27 am
Darksaber says:
Ricky Rubio. The infamous Ricky Rubio? Who plays off the bench behind José C.? Really? That’s the spanish recipe for the PG position? Yeah, give Spain the gold right now, oh wait, they couldn’t even win against russia last year in the Euro’s. Against JR Holden even… Ricky Rubio..Yawn!
Aug.1 at 10:29 am
Eboy says:
Criticisms of his behaviors on the court aren’t an indication of my loyalty to the player. Perhaps others should learn that their rooting interests can be criticized and still supported but that seems to difficult to grasp when you drink from the cup of false promises.
Aug.1 at 10:32 am
Darksaber says:
Well Jukai, understand E-Boy right? you must know the feeling with being a fan(atic) of a certain player. Sometimes you love their game so much, you nearly hate em when they start doing strange things or start underperforming…then the craziness settles in our brains, and we just lash out. I got that with Dirk during the Golden State upset, a lot. But now, after having met him twice, and had a few conversations, no more hate forthcoming.
Aug.1 at 10:33 am
Calvin Cambridge says:
A 60-59 win with a last second play is convincing evidence to you? And I wouldn’t consider a team with AK on it to be a joke.
Aug.1 at 10:35 am
Jukai says:
what in the world was that a response to, Darksaber?
Aug.1 at 10:35 am
Calvin Cambridge says:
strange things = star jones.
Aug.1 at 10:37 am
Jukai says:
Oh, you meant to respond to Myles instead of me. It’s funny, when I was talking about how Wade has the possibility of being in the top 20 best players ever during the “should we trade Rose for Wade and Beasley” talks, Eboy actually came out and said that I was overrating Wade. Very funny.
Aug.1 at 10:37 am
Darksaber says:
Actually, i luuuv Kirilenko’s ability to do everything on the court. And he actually is a scorer for the russian team (ya hear that Sloan? Unleash the beast already!) But in my humble opinion, Spain is slightly overrated as a gold medal candidate. They are clever, tall, quite fast really, and can all shoot high percentages, but if your best player is a whining crybaby, i just don’t see them winning a nailbiter against the US or any of the contenders.
Aug.1 at 10:37 am
Eboy says:
I think I agree with you 100% Darksaber. I just lost a little bit in translation is all. All that being said, unless D-Wade plays that way for 82 games and can win about 20 gmaes by himself, the Heat still won’t sniff the playoffs this season.
Aug.1 at 10:37 am
Darksaber says:
oops, sorry Jukai. Yep, my rant was for Myles. My bad
Aug.1 at 10:38 am
Darksaber says:
Calvin? “Star Jones” did not happen. Ya hear? That was bizarro Wade there, not Flash.
Aug.1 at 10:39 am
DP says:
Rick Kalma killed me with his horrible announcing. “An alley-oop plus the windmill, that’s just sick.” Pretty Ricky, stop while you are ahead. Wade is mad at someone and I need to find out who it is.
Aug.1 at 10:39 am
Eboy says:
Jukai, top 20 player ever is a FARRRRRRRRRRR stretch, even for someone as misinformed as you. I don’t think many would have agreed with you saying that about him so I’m straight with my comment, if I really made it, ’cause I don’t remember EVER jockeying for Rose ’cause I had hoped for Beasley from the end of last season.
Aug.1 at 10:40 am
Calvin Cambridge says:
Gasol hasn’t been crying since he left memphis. How do the heat not have a shot - no faith in the Beasefactor?
Aug.1 at 10:42 am
Darksaber says:
Yeah the announcing was lovely earlier on. “my son scored some team usa gear, which set me and my wife back some, and it wasn’t even swag, retail my friend, retail”. Do we need to know such information? Really?
Aug.1 at 10:42 am
Eboy says:
Because, Calvin, a new coach and a invisible bench isn’t going to cut it until some more pieces come on board to make it easier to get wins for all involved.
Aug.1 at 10:42 am
DP says:
I told Wade I was sorry because I thougt he lost all of his hops. He proved me wrong and he his trying to prove his point. Wade has won three straight play of the games…he is on a rollbounce.
Aug.1 at 10:43 am
Darksaber says:
Umm Calvin, watch the Nba Playoffs 2008, especially the finals against the greenbacks. Whiney Pau was all up in that….
Aug.1 at 10:43 am
Earl "E.Sneed" Sneed says:
D-Wade’s windmill on that alley was soooooooooo sick!
Aug.1 at 10:44 am
ciolkstar says:
Wade was straight beasting. I was hating a little yesterday on the windmill and his newfound “anger”. But he’s really starting to look awesome. I skipped the game notes and all b/c I’m gonna watch the game after work.
Aug.1 at 10:44 am
Darksaber says:
DP? is that you? you forgot to use your catchphrase, come on now… you can’t omit that gem right?
Aug.1 at 10:45 am
DP says:
lol @ darksaber. Wade 20 best player ever? Dude hasn’t even hit his prime yet. give him like 6 more years before we start talking about that nonsense.
Aug.1 at 10:45 am
BETCATS_Buggin_Out_of_Control_Step_on_my_Nikes_I_kill_u says:
damm i missed this
Aug.1 at 10:46 am
Myles Brown says:
“Sometimes you love their game so much, you nearly hate em when they start doing strange things or start underperforming…then the craziness settles in our brains, and we just lash out.” THAT I understand, and is what I was referring to.
Aug.1 at 10:46 am
DP says:
@darksaber, by special request, play wit it.
Aug.1 at 10:47 am
ciolkstar says:
Also, How come no one brings up the the fact that the international court is smaller? I foot more narrow and 4-5 feet shorter, this combined with the short 3 makes spacing more difficult while making zones more efffective. Its harder to stretch the D, and it negates some of the advantages of supreme atheleticism.
Aug.1 at 10:47 am
Darksaber says:
come on DP, you know you wanna say it. You must have copyrighted it by now, otherwise i would have used it myself. Go on..
Aug.1 at 10:48 am
DP says:
you must have some new shoes in or something, BET.
Aug.1 at 10:48 am
Darksaber says:
YESSSSS! DP’s in da hizzle.
ahhh, i missed messing around on Slamonline.
Aug.1 at 10:48 am
ciolkstar says:
wait a sec, IS THE RIM SHORTER IN FIBA?!
Aug.1 at 10:48 am
Calvin Cambridge says:
Someone name nineteen players better than wade. GO
Aug.1 at 10:48 am
Hursty says:
Australia just lost to Argentina by 4 after being up 15 in the 3rd. Lost by 4. Bogut played light minutes and the 7th to 12th men finished the game for Aus. Manu is definitely 100% btw for anyone still doubting, and Nocioni was great.
Aug.1 at 10:50 am
Ben Osborne says:
BETCATS is amazing. Watched the first half, which was pretty fun…always good to get a hit of these guys after a month without them.
Aug.1 at 10:52 am
Darksaber says:
Hursty just brought up a great point. Let’s not overhype these preparation games in Macau people. Argentinia beat the Aussies by only 4 points? that’s odd. I am SO looking forward to the olympic b-ball tournament (and beachvolleyball, and the 100m dash etc. etc.). It’s gonna be one of the best ever, fo sure.
Aug.1 at 10:53 am
DP says:
Half of lithuania’s points came from threes. I don’t see any other team hitting like they did today. But the sad thing about it, they still got that ass handed to them. Tayshaun! finally gets some points.
Aug.1 at 10:54 am
Calvin Cambridge says:
Walter Dix - Remember the name (For you track fans)
Aug.1 at 10:54 am
Captain America says:
Return of Wade circa 2005, couldn’t be more pleased.
Aug.1 at 10:54 am
van says:
didn’t see the game but adefence that allows 84 points, can’t be that good right? That’s a lot for a FIBA rules game.I don’t think Spain or Greece have let their opponents score more than 70 this summer.
Spain is soft, but Argentina is not what they used to be and Greece can’t get lucky for a second time. The only threat for US is Spain…well provided that coach K won’t fall asleep on the bench like he did in the game against Greece two years ago.
Aug.1 at 10:55 am
Hursty says:
@ BEN- the commentators? Or the slam posters?
Aug.1 at 10:55 am
Eboy says:
Is it possible to hate and love someone all at the same time? Fuc*ing Myles, the adulation barometer
Aug.1 at 10:55 am
DP says:
Give me some time, Calvin. I have to make sure my list of 30 is correct.
Aug.1 at 10:56 am
Calvin Cambridge says:
@ DP - LOL i can’t wait
Aug.1 at 10:56 am
Darksaber says:
Apart from Flash, i am really starting to appreciate Deron Williams (aka Jason Kidd ‘08 with a jumper) game. CP3 always seeking to put someone on his hip (in the paint!) so he can either push off for a layup, or force the action..not so much. Where’s the speed and the tight handle playa? Williams is gonna cut up a lot of defenses in these games.
Aug.1 at 10:56 am
ciolkstar says:
Its a thin line Eboy…
Aug.1 at 10:56 am
DP says:
1.Kobe
Aug.1 at 10:57 am
DP says:
2.LeBron
Aug.1 at 10:57 am
Jukai says:
“Wade has the possibility of being in the top 20 best players.” What is it with people and reading comprehension today. Did I say he was already in the top twenty? Or did I say he might be at the end of his career?
Aug.1 at 10:57 am
DP says:
3.CP3
Aug.1 at 10:57 am
ciolkstar says:
I think Deron has been fantastic as well, he sort of has the reigns on him in Utah. But he’s still basically CP3s equal(IMO)
Aug.1 at 10:58 am
Sesa says:
Correct me If I’m wrong, but I think NBA’s rim is 10 foot while I believed FIBA’s rim is shorter
Aug.1 at 10:58 am
ciolkstar says:
4. Tim Duncan
Aug.1 at 10:58 am
Jukai says:
You are wrong, Sesa
Aug.1 at 10:59 am
Darksaber says:
Ahhh, classic DP. Still don’t think you have a list that is 30 players long my friend. But hey, have at it… Calvin’s waiting impatiently.
Aug.1 at 10:59 am
Eboy says:
I don’t know Jukai, you brought up an example from weeks ago.
Aug.1 at 10:59 am
ciolkstar says:
YOU ARE WRONG SESA. FIBA isht is 10 ft aswell
Aug.1 at 10:59 am
DP says:
you’re right, Jukai. I suck at reading. not my forte. on to the list for Mr. Calvin. 4.D-Will
Aug.1 at 10:59 am
Jukai says:
5. Wade… whoops!
Aug.1 at 10:59 am
Darksaber says:
@ Sesa. So wrong.
Aug.1 at 11:00 am
BETCATS_Buggin_Out_Of_Control_step_on_my_Nikes_I_kill_u says:
DP: FAIL!!!
1. Chris Paul
2. Lebron
3. Tim Fu(kin Duncan (respect!)
4.Kobe
5. D Wade
Aug.1 at 11:00 am
Calvin Cambridge says:
So what you’re trying to say Jukai is that at no point in time was Wade a top 20 player. FALSE.
Aug.1 at 11:00 am
Eboy says:
And Jukai meant all-time not in today’s game, people.
Aug.1 at 11:00 am
DP says:
Alright C-Star, I put at 5. Tim Duncan
Aug.1 at 11:00 am
Jukai says:
There are a couple of players that are in the NBA that deffinitely crack my top 20 (Shaq, Duncan, Kobe) and some who may (Lebron, Wade, CP3, Howard). Actually, I can say Lebron probably already cracks it.
Aug.1 at 11:01 am
Jukai says:
Thank you for having my back, Eboy
Aug.1 at 11:01 am
BETCATS_Buggin_Out_Of_Control_step_on_my_Nikes_I_kill_u says:
and to any Tim Duncan haters: look at his trophy case then judge.
Aug.1 at 11:01 am
DP says:
Could I finish, BET? jeez. freakin idiots! lol.
Aug.1 at 11:02 am
Captain America says:
Sesa, you’re right. NBA = 10 ft FIBA = 9 ft 12 inches
Aug.1 at 11:02 am
Calvin Cambridge says:
Oh, well now things are clear. Thx Eboy
Aug.1 at 11:02 am
Jukai says:
hahahaha@Captain America
Aug.1 at 11:03 am
ciolkstar says:
Lebron looks like the best player in the WORLD right now. I know we already did this and everyone says KOBE can shoot better ,plays better D… The D is closer than people say and Kobe DOES have the better J. But bron just feels like the superstar in a room fulll of stars…
Aug.1 at 11:03 am
Calvin Cambridge says:
Haha. Fu(k no Wade isn’t top 20.
Aug.1 at 11:03 am
DP says:
6. Wince Carter, no that was a joke so don’t get all on my back. Damn, I can’t think of anybody else better than D-wade! Boozer? no. Bosh? hell no. JJ Reddick? hmm…Jason Richardson? sh*t you got me calvin. no, no, no, Amare! maybe.
Aug.1 at 11:04 am
Darksaber says:
Poor Sesa is getting misinformed by Steve Rogers of all people. Cap you aren’t serious are you?
Aug.1 at 11:05 am
Bubba Chuck says:
LINAS KLEIZA!
Aug.1 at 11:05 am
Calvin Cambridge says:
7. DeShawn Stevenson
Aug.1 at 11:06 am
DP says:
Did yall see when Kobe threw the alley down with one hand? If Kobe’s ego wasn’t so big, I could see him and LeBron playing together for real. straight wildin g.
Aug.1 at 11:06 am
BETCATS_Buggin_Out_Of_Control_step_on_my_Nikes_I_kill_u says:
Calin Cambridge, your comments suck as bad as your presidency!
Aug.1 at 11:06 am
ciolkstar says:
Respect to BETCAT giving it where it due.
Timmy also illusrtates that Love/Hate thing perfectly. Over his career, he’s absolutely inscrutable. But I get frustrated with the guy during games sometimes… missing bunnies, free throws, etc.
Aug.1 at 11:07 am
Jukai says:
Jesus christ man, that was Calvin Coolidge… Calvin Cambridge was never a president.
Aug.1 at 11:07 am
DP says:
8.Allen Iverson
Aug.1 at 11:07 am
Jukai says:
That’s a toughe question. GUYS, seriously: who is better, Wade or Iverson?
Aug.1 at 11:07 am
davezorz says:
Is it just me, or is Deron Williams the clear-cut best point guard on the roster? The stat line didn’t really show it, but I thought D-Will was the most impressive American in the halfcourt today, getting easy shots whenever he wanted ‘em. Kidd was a non-factor, and CP3 still suffers when play gets physical. In the kinds of games that the US actually has any chance of losing — the games where the other team can get back on defense — it seems obvious to me that Williams should be getting the lion’s share of minutes at the point.
Aug.1 at 11:08 am
Calvin Cambridge says:
BETCATS has never watched like mike.
Aug.1 at 11:08 am
TADOne says:
Wade may as well keep the bald look all year.
Aug.1 at 11:08 am
DP says:
Cool cool kal was a rapper. one hit wonder.
Aug.1 at 11:09 am
Jukai says:
It’s just you davezorz. Deron Williams is a full time half-court point guard very much resembling Stockton, minus a lot of defensive integrity (and dirty play). He’s used to playing in the half court. CP3 has pretty much not been bullied for two years. Is your mind constantly playing back 2006?
Aug.1 at 11:09 am
DP says:
9.Brandon Roy
Aug.1 at 11:09 am
Eboy says:
I agree with TAD. And I about died over BET’s Calvin Cambridge president comment. Damn, that boy is silly!
Aug.1 at 11:10 am
Allan says:
USA continues to improve and they will only get better. Tomorrow Against Russia I expect another 30 pt win because Russia is small and they are simply overmatch in all the positions. Kirilenko will have a hard time guarding James and Kobe. I’ll bet Russia’s front line will be in foul trouble early. What more if they put Kobe on JR holden the glue of the Russian national team.
Aug.1 at 11:10 am
DP says:
10.Brandon Jennings
Aug.1 at 11:11 am
ciolkstar says:
I’m not feelin the bald head look for Wade. It makes his head/face look fat.
Aug.1 at 11:11 am
Calvin Cambridge says:
ENOUGH DP
Aug.1 at 11:12 am
Darksaber says:
Davezorz does have a point Jukai. Deron’s size, speed and ability to finish his drives are better suited to the opponents the US shall face soon. The Euro teams all have tall guards now, physical game that the referee’s infrequently call, and Deron just seems, seems mind you, to be the best PG. for this tournament so far.
Aug.1 at 11:13 am
DP says:
Deron Williams is just so big that you think he couldn’t dance the way he does. His crossover moves are so fluid that he has you on the ropes at all times. Yes, he is way more physical than CP3, but Paul is more of a passer anyway. I like it when they play Deron at the 2 and Paul at the one. unstoppable.
Aug.1 at 11:14 am
ciolkstar says:
I think Deron has been fantastic as well, he sort of has the reigns on him in Utah. But he’s still basically CP3s equal(IMO)
Aug.1 at 11:14 am
Darksaber says:
@DP. Word.
Aug.1 at 11:14 am
DP says:
11. Pretty, Pretty Pretty Rickyyyyyyyyyyyy
Aug.1 at 11:15 am
Jukai says:
He didn’t say for this tournement, Darksaber, he said on the roster. I agree that Deron probably is best suited for this because Kidd and Paul both like to run, with Kidd finding people reacting to Kidd’s movement and Paul cutting and drawing and creating passing lanes. Deron on the other hand, operates in the half-court because that’s how Jerry Sloan has always played. If defense cracks down and the US isn’t getting steals, Deron is the obvious choice. On the other hand, if the US is scoring their points on the break, Kidd and Paul need to be in there.
Aug.1 at 11:15 am
ciolkstar says:
I’m definitely feelin the CP3+ Deron lineup ( with lebron, Carmelo, and DHoward as my favorite permutation)
Aug.1 at 11:16 am
ciolkstar says:
I agree he’s important as a leader, etc…but JKidd needs to find a comfortable spot on that bench
Aug.1 at 11:16 am
DP says:
In the next five years, CP3, D-Will, and B-jennings will be at the top of the point guard world. I’m still effy on Rose.
Aug.1 at 11:17 am
Jukai says:
I hate that lineup Ciolkstar. Why in the world would you do that? The Kidd, Kobe, Lebron, Carmelo and Howard line-up is perfect. Sure, CP3 and Deron williams are PROBABLY a more effective backcourt… but that’s exactly why they NEED to be in the second unit. There’s no way in hell Redd and Bosh and Boozer can get shots off for themselves. They’ll need that point guard ability. On the other hand, Kobe and Lebron can create as much as Kidd can, and Kidd wont take away from their scoring like Chris Paul will. Does this make sense to you?
Aug.1 at 11:18 am
Darksaber says:
Actually Russia, if they are identical to the team that won Euro last year, has a HUGE frontline. Guys like Morgunov (sic) Khyryapa and Kirilenko are quite tall and can protect the rim. It’s their SG / SF positions that are week, and backup PG. So don’t be surprised if this game is gonna be the toughest test for the US yet. Add to that the new shiny set of brass balls they now swing around after beating the world champions last year.
Aug.1 at 11:18 am
DP says:
Howard has been grinding. Post moves are showing improvement.
Aug.1 at 11:18 am
Allan says:
Derrick Rose will be be CP3’s equal in 2 years
Aug.1 at 11:19 am
BETCATS_Buggin_Out_Of_Control_step_on_my_Nikes_I_kill_u says:
my shortly made list of the top 30 all time 1. Micheal Jordan
2. Bill Russel
3. Oscar Robertson
4. Wilt Chamerlin
5. Kareem Abul Jabar
6. Magic Johnson
7. Larry Bird
8. Dr. J
9. Charles Barkley
10. Shaq
11. Scottie Pippen
12. Hakeem Oljuwan
13. Kobe
14 .David Robinson
15. Willis Reed
16. Earl Monore
17. Wes Unsled
18. Walt Frazier
19. Patrick Ewing
20. Pistol Pete
21.David Thompson
22.George Mikan
23.Clyde Drexler
24. Isiah Thomas
25. Tim Duncan
26. Ed Macauley
27. Nate Thrumond
28. Bob Pettit
29. Bob Cousy
30. Kevin Garrnet Honrable Mentions: Hondo, Kevin Johnson, John Stockton, Reggie Miller, Joe Dumars, Chris Mullin
Aug.1 at 11:19 am
Calvin Cambridge says:
No mention of Michael Redd yet.
Aug.1 at 11:20 am
Jukai says:
Chris Paul plays in a big way the in the same way Nash did (big note: did) in the fact that a lot of their passing ability comes from the fact that their man can’t ease up on them because if he did, they’re just going to breeze by and score. Kidd is a lot more of a ’set and find’ guy who usually wont create his own passing lanes. Therefore, he’s not going to take shots away from Kobe/Lebron/Carmello. So he’s pretty much a perfect fit.
Aug.1 at 11:20 am
Darksaber says:
Jukai, astute analysis. Very impressive really.
Aug.1 at 11:21 am
davezorz says:
Jukai, I don’t see your concerns about Deron’s defense. He doesn’t get as many steals as CP3, but that’s mostly because he’s a more conservative defender. With his size, I think he does a better job of contesting jumpers and preventing drives. I’m not trying to diss on CP3, who is a spectacular player. But it seems to me that D-Will is the most well-rounded point guard who gives the US the best chance of winning.
Aug.1 at 11:21 am
Jukai says:
The fact that Ricky Barry and Moses Malone didn’t make your list means you’re an idiot, fake BETCATs. Bob Cousy over John Stockton? Ed Macauley over Reggie Miller? Seriously?
Aug.1 at 11:21 am
DP says:
After reading “Slaughter house five”, I’m scared of both the Russians and Germans. Those Mothaf*ckers are ruthless son of b*tches. Don’t be suprised if AK47 has a quadruple double Sunday morning. Is anyone going to stay up to watch that game?
Aug.1 at 11:22 am
Calvin Cambridge says:
LOL at your list…where is Karl Malone
Aug.1 at 11:22 am
Jukai says:
davezorz, read what I said. Deron’s defense is solid. I said he plays like Stockton MINUS Stockton’s defense, which was well above solid. I believe that Deron Williams is more suited for international play but I think Chris Paul is a better overall point guard
Aug.1 at 11:22 am
DP says:
oohhh…burn by Jukai. that’s not right.
Aug.1 at 11:23 am
Calvin Cambridge says:
second leading scorer of all-time is not a good enough credential
Aug.1 at 11:23 am
Darksaber says:
Well DP i am gonna watch it, since i am on the other side of the atlantic pond.
Aug.1 at 11:23 am
Calvin Cambridge says:
Kurt Vonnegut is the truth
Aug.1 at 11:25 am
DP says:
I like the list. except a minor flaw: REGGIE MILLER! he deserves to go in the worst commentators list along with Ricky Kalma and Fran and some others I don’t want to put on blast right now.
Aug.1 at 11:25 am
Jukai says:
I’m going to lunch but after lunch I’m making my own list of 30 which people can judge me by. And Nate Thrumond will be nowhere near it.
Aug.1 at 11:26 am
BETCATS says:
i did that list in like five minutes, not lots of thoughts put into it. Moses should have gotten on to it, and lets look at Bob Cousy’s fingers before you tell me Stocken is better. Just because you couldnt see Cousy play doesnt mean that he sucks. And i hate reggie miller, so no list for him. the rest of my name is getting to annoying to type in so bye bye buggin out.
Aug.1 at 11:26 am
davezorz says:
BETCATS, you’ve gotta put Duncan ahead of Robinson and Ewing. Compare titles, compare MVPs, compare All-NBA mentions.
Aug.1 at 11:27 am
Jukai says:
Cousy would make my top 30 list easy, BETCATs, he’d probably make my top 20. But he’s not better than Stocks. Also, Rick Barry is the most underrated player of all time, for seriousness.
Aug.1 at 11:27 am
BETCATS says:
considering the fact that you know nothing about nate thurmond, i suggest you shut your face Action Jackson aka Jukai. FIRST EVER QUAD. DOUBLE. RESPECT!
Aug.1 at 11:28 am
AC says:
LOL Darksaber…. Caps telling the truth.
Aug.1 at 11:28 am
DP says:
Yeah, Calvin, that book is f*cking incredible!
Aug.1 at 11:28 am
Jukai says:
If you put Pete Maravich higher than Tim Duncan and Isiah Thomas… sigh… Maravich was an amazing player that cared more about looking as cool as possible rather than winning. That’s great, really, but like… Tim Duncan man…
Aug.1 at 11:29 am
AC says:
I think the NBA rim is 9′ 12″ too….
Aug.1 at 11:30 am
Calvin Cambridge says:
Jesus, you could swear everyone here has seen Bob Cousy play.
Aug.1 at 11:30 am
BETCATS says:
I did davezorz, Duncan has more rings than Pat and the Admrial put together. But maybe the part of the fact that i made this in five minutes is hard for you guys to understand? Rick Barry should have been on the list and so should have Moses but then agian its my list. AND COUSY IS WAY WAY WAY BETTER than Stockton, so get off your kiddy rides, stop playing video games and go to youtube and learn
Aug.1 at 11:31 am
DP says:
This nike hyperdunk commercial is making want to go to the mall and cop these mothalovers. just got paid too! i’m so fly.
Aug.1 at 11:32 am
BETCATS says:
i hate Karl Malone (pedophille, had kids by a 13 year old while in college and talks dirty to kobe’s wife) and Reggie Miller (defination: A$$Hole) so no list for them.
Aug.1 at 11:32 am
Calvin Cambridge says:
In all honesty, if Bob Cousy played today he would be the equivalent of Chris Quinn.
Aug.1 at 11:33 am
DP says:
I need to check this Cousy kid out. I just thought he was excellent because, damn, he has a college basketball award named after him. best point guard in the nation? hmm, that must mean he was raw.
Aug.1 at 11:33 am
Calvin Cambridge says:
I love Rod Strickland but that doesn’t mean he is a top 30 player.
Aug.1 at 11:34 am
davezorz says:
Oh, ok Jukai, sorry for misreading. To clarify, I don’t think D-Will is any better than CP3 in the NBA game, but I was arguing that he’s clearly the better point guard for international play. I’d also argue that Williams is the better choice generally against top-caliber competition in the NBA, but that’s a whole ‘nother long discussion.
Aug.1 at 11:35 am
DP says:
hondo is a nickname that I wish I had.
Aug.1 at 11:36 am
DP says:
Hot sauce
Aug.1 at 11:39 am
BETCATS says:
Jukai, Pistol Pete is one of the best scorers i have ever seen on youtube. Best 5 players not on my list 1. Drazen Petrovic (man dropped buckets in the euro league and would have been a NBA legend if not killed in a crash)
2. Karl Malone
2.5. Moses Malone
3. Reggie Miller
4. Steve Nash
5. Oscar Schmidt
Aug.1 at 11:41 am
BETCATS says:
hey Calvin Cambridge, i thought when you were Prez, you were called ‘Silent Cal’, if thats true why dont you shut the fu(k up
Aug.1 at 11:43 am
DP says:
Drazen is U.G.K. for life.
Aug.1 at 11:44 am
BETCATS says:
yup, and thanks to youtube i can watch all of them.
Aug.1 at 11:44 am
Calvin Cambridge says:
You’re still joking about thinking Calvin Cambridge was a president, right?
Aug.1 at 11:46 am
BETCATS says:
indeed i am, but the point of the message was shut the fu(k up
Aug.1 at 11:49 am
Calvin Cambridge says:
Oh I’m sorry for reminding you that you left the #2 scorer in NBA history off your pretentious list
Aug.1 at 11:52 am
BETCATS says:
well i dont like him so there. Now go play with lil bow bow in the white house basement where you belong. Also five minutes is not ample time to make a good list so some people got left off. I am not perfect, i just play one on TV
Aug.1 at 11:53 am
B. Long says:
Good for D-Wade. I’ve def. questioned dudes priorities over the past couple of seasons but he looks like he’s coming back with a vengence. It’s a little early, but I could def. see the Heat in the 6-8 spot in East. Come on Eboy, have some faith. It’s the EAST.
Aug.1 at 11:53 am
ciolkstar says:
…Pushing 170…
Aug.1 at 11:55 am
Calvin Cambridge says:
“Well I don’t like him so there.” Reread that as you ponder why your life is meaningless.
Aug.1 at 11:58 am
DP says:
life is like a box of chocolate. c’mon guys.
Aug.1 at 12:01 pm
BETCATS says:
i dont know, is my life meaningless? I have friends in REAL life who ARE NOT in the computer, i have friends in CYBER life that ARE in the computer. So that means i have friends everywhere. You sir, are disliked here, but problay only came here because you are disliked in places out side your mother’s basement (where you ‘crash’ right?) so thought you would be SUPER COOL here? Maybe if you were a 13 year old girl Karl Malone would be your friend, but your not. You are the weakest link, goodbye.
Aug.1 at 12:02 pm
ciolkstar says:
Who is this fakeass BETCATS?
Aug.1 at 12:03 pm
ciolkstar says:
Weakest link? That is some tired isht.
Aug.1 at 12:06 pm
BETCATS says:
not tired, just boreder than ussual. And i got a new friend that i chat with on the regular when i get bored. She from germany, her name is Heineken. Me and her had some conversation in the recent past, but not today.
Aug.1 at 12:06 pm
Jackie Moon says:
USA needs to work on the half-court offense. Deron Williams seemed to know what to do, but overall, they looked a little stagnant against the zone. As far as the Vasquez “shut down” thing … maybe the media should stop using the term “shut down” unless the player scores less than 10 points and shoots under 30 percent. “Harassing defense” works just as well and is more accurate. And Kobe harrassed the sh*t out of Jasikevicius… Lebron could have been a quarterback with his accurate long passes …
Aug.1 at 12:07 pm
Darksaber says:
Calvin and Betcats..calmaaaaaa. shhhh, relax guys. Lists have that confrontational aspect to them, remember last summer when slam nearly started a war by listing the 100 best players here? Feelings were HURT. Why don’t you both agree to disagree and skip the (presidential) insults to one another. It’s all good, we are in for a few weeks of our favorite sport, at damn near the highest level, especially when patriotic pride is concerned.
Aug.1 at 12:09 pm
DP says:
“Ole LL I need love lookin-boy, fake id can’t get in the club lookin-boy, remember me from school? Hell naw, you gets no love lookin-boy. You are the weakest link lookin-boy. weakest link isn’t that tired.
Aug.1 at 12:09 pm
BETCATS says:
i only back down if Godzilla (the monster, not the commentor) challeged me to one on one on a fisher price little tike basketball goal. Until that day, i fear nothing
Aug.1 at 12:10 pm
Darksaber says:
Jackie Moon? i dig your name. Just saw semi pro shortly ago. surprisingly funny movie.
Aug.1 at 12:11 pm
BETCATS says:
darksaber, u r the new UN now with that dissament sh!t. Peace Love and Love Peace. I am a peaceful dude but i dont back down.
Aug.1 at 12:12 pm
DP says:
Do I ever remember the top 100 players! Now I that was some real beef. I know I was one of the most unliked commentators on the site back then. BET and I had a little mini-beef but it was squashed like young buck and game. BET is the homey now.
Aug.1 at 12:13 pm
Allenp says:
Wade is better than Iverson when healthy. Deron Williams is the best point guard in the league.
Aug.1 at 12:14 pm
Darksaber says:
Suit yourself BET. If you need to be stubborn and not “back down”, you and the fellas you are fighting with should get a playdate. Just keep it civil in here a’ight? Remember we were talking about USA Basketball to begin with..
Aug.1 at 12:14 pm
DP says:
“Just let YOUR SOUL GLOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!! curl lookin-boy.”
Aug.1 at 12:15 pm
DP says:
Beef, Beef, where out thou, beefiness?
Aug.1 at 12:16 pm
BETCATS says:
but the top 100 players list was something. Z-Bo was in it. I remember that. But i have e-Beef with 90% of the commentors here at one time or another. (only Tariq and Holly are the ones i never hated on) But these is my place of commenting so if i dont like something and if i dont like what somebody is saying (calvin called Cousy Chris Quinn) i will respond.
Aug.1 at 12:16 pm
Darksaber says:
DP? u WERE the most reviled commentators on this site last summer. Gotta admit i admired your game plan though. U stuck to your opinion (and what a catchphrase) and even got to write about one of the players on slamonline. To say i was envious about that would be understating things.
Aug.1 at 12:17 pm
Eboy says:
BET, you ARE extremely hyper today. Just saying. Not a bad thing, just wild.
Aug.1 at 12:17 pm
DP says:
ESPN treats basketball like DJay treats his hO*Es in “Hustle and Flow”.
Aug.1 at 12:19 pm
Darksaber says:
and to top it off he goes all Eric la Salle on us. DP is a star. umm, “play with it”. (sorry dog, couldn’t help it)
Aug.1 at 12:20 pm
DP says:
I don’t think they gave me the memo on writing for a player, saber. But I do think I know what you are talking about. It was when Sam wrote an article about Monta, and it had my name all in the article. Rock-star status. Thank you very much. But they let EBoy do a damn season preview. I’m not going to lie, I was hating on eboy then and I’m sorry guy. You are the Truth I was just relucant to admit it.
Aug.1 at 12:22 pm
DP says:
the flattery is not needed, saber. but what the hell keep it coming! lol.
Aug.1 at 12:23 pm
Darksaber says:
Oh so THAT’S how that played out. I just assumed they were so impressed about your public enemy #1 status that they let you write the story. your name was all over the article though. Eboy, you got a preview? DAMN!
Aug.1 at 12:25 pm
nick says:
DP: Vonnegut is the business. Although i don’t know why you said that book makes you scared of russians and germans, considering the fact that it was the home team that wrecked dresden.
Aug.1 at 12:25 pm
DP says:
I can’t wait to watch Spain play against the USA. I want to see if Kobe is going to treat Pau like crap on the floor. Also wondering if Pau is going to play like he is actually a man since he is playing for his country.
Aug.1 at 12:26 pm
Eboy says:
I SHARED a preview with the Queen of Point Of Views, Cheryl, Darksaber. I am proud to say that it garnered the second most comments behind only the Lakers preview (go figure) but our thoughts on where the team would wind up were, how they say, really pourous.
Aug.1 at 12:26 pm
nick says:
I hope Kobe turns Pau into the next hyperdunk-comercial-potentially-homophobic still add.
Aug.1 at 12:28 pm
DP says:
why did you tell me that nick! lol. I’m reading the book right now for AP Language and I haven’t finished it yet. but it is a great book. The only sucky part is that I have to write like a 6 page report on the book and how it is relevant in real life situations. What the f*ck?
Aug.1 at 12:28 pm
bobby says:
yeh keep playin well in the FIBA like melo, wade. but u aint got nuthin where real ball is played, the NBA
Aug.1 at 12:28 pm
Darksaber says:
To be fair, Pau does play much more aggresive when he plays for spain. and he is quite possibly the best low post center left (except for TD), great legwork. Still hate his guts though, the whiner.
Aug.1 at 12:31 pm
Darksaber says:
. If you are still reading Lang, i know where you reside. Don’t make me send over some thugs a’ight??
I bow before the commenters who get to write for the greatest printed B-Ball publication ever. Lucky bastards
Aug.1 at 12:31 pm
DP says:
Pau plays like a beast when he plays for Spain. No one can stop him.
Aug.1 at 12:33 pm
DP says:
yeah, much respect to all the O.G. commentators. I’m going to be at O.G. status in a couple of years.
Aug.1 at 12:33 pm
TADOne says:
Um, why the heck has this garnered 203 responses?
Aug.1 at 12:34 pm
nick says:
DP…the book isn’t written in a linear fashion…so its sorta hard to spoil anything. but sorry if i did. And write your paper about living moment to moment and seeing beauty in the world without preoccupation with death.
Aug.1 at 12:35 pm
bobby says:
still waitin for los argentinos to kick american a$$
Aug.1 at 12:35 pm
Darksaber says:
On a different (but more personal note), some stupid canoe rower lady for the germans just went on record OPPOSING the rising sentiment of Nowitzki carrying in the flag for his country. May you capsize in the gold race woman!!
Aug.1 at 12:35 pm
DP says:
Are the games going to be on NBC or espn?
Aug.1 at 12:37 pm
DP says:
I couldn’t have said it any better, nick. Heck I wouldn’t have even thought of that. lol. thanks for lesson. this might get to 250 before the day is over.
Aug.1 at 12:39 pm
Jackie Moon says:
If I was Coach K, I would be practicing ZONE OFFENSE all day. Everything else looks good as Alba.
Aug.1 at 12:40 pm
Darksaber says:
TADOne? Blame the O.G. commentators, as DP calls us. We’ve been running our mouths (or is that fingers?) a bit here. Lots to talk about, and i for my part haven’t consistently writing for months. Time to get back in the groove.
Aug.1 at 12:42 pm
TADOne says:
I think you went right past the groove and straight to the freeway.
Aug.1 at 12:42 pm
Eboy says:
TAD’s still salty about Kwame wearing a Pistons uniform. Fuc*er!
Aug.1 at 12:43 pm
Darksaber says:
Like i give a hoot what you think Tady.
Aug.1 at 12:43 pm
Eboy says:
My bad, Brickhands Brown.
Aug.1 at 12:53 pm
TADOne says:
I guess you do need to find a groove when you don’t recognize sarcasm. And E: It is “Brick Hands Brown”. He deserves capitalization.
Aug.1 at 12:54 pm
Eboy says:
He deserves capital punishment.
Aug.1 at 12:56 pm
Darksaber says:
Sorry TAD, i take back my rather annoyed response. gotta get the sarcastometer checked.
Aug.1 at 12:57 pm
Jackie Moon says:
Interesting exchange during the ES*N telecast of USA - Lithuania: Franchilla uses the cliche (for a reason) phrase “Kobe Bryant is the best player on the planet” and Rich Kamla gives him back “Really? Lebron is the best, in my book”. Franchilla doesn’t take the bait, and changes the subject. In Slam World, that kind of talk would result in 2,000,000,000,000,000,000 posts (the population of China).
Aug.1 at 12:58 pm
TADOne says:
I don’t think Joe D. got the memo that Kwame’s don’t fair too well in Detroit.
Aug.1 at 1:16 pm
ciolkstar says:
LeBron is better. Kamla and Franchilla are terrible, sometimes it really seems like they’re not even watching the game. I guess I should be happy its not Reggie, but still. Do yall think they’ll be the Team USA announcers throughout the Olympics too?
Aug.1 at 1:19 pm
Jukai says:
1. Michael Jordan
2. Magic Johnson
3. Wilt Chamberlain
4. Larry Bird
5. Bill Russel
6. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
7. Dr J
8. Oscar Robertson
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Tim Duncan
11. Kobe Bryant
12. Jerry West
13. Shaq
14. Rick Barry
15. Isiah Thomas
16. Charles Barkley
17. Moses Malone
18. George Girvin
19. Elgin Baylor
20. John Stockton
21. Bob Cousy
22. Karl Malone
23. Pistol pete Maravich
24. Kevin Garnett
25. Allen Iverson
26. Lebron James
27. David Robinson
28. John Havlicek
29. Patrick Ewing
30. Walt Fraizer I feel I’m sorta short handing Bill Walton, but having four MVP quality seasons and then destroying your body sorta kicks him outta the top 30. Paul and Wade I toyed with putting in them but they haven’t proved themselves to me. Any criticism?
Aug.1 at 1:19 pm
TADOne says:
God, I hope not.
Aug.1 at 1:21 pm
TADOne says:
Off-hand I would say Nique should be there.
Aug.1 at 1:23 pm
Jukai says:
hmmm…… Maybe he’d replace Fraizer, but Nique never really struck me as top 30 material.
Aug.1 at 1:23 pm
Orion says:
Rich Kamla is a flip flop artist 2 years ago he was proclaiming D Wade the next MJ then he switched to Lebron as the best in the league. Then he switched this season and said that Chris Paul was the best in the league now he is back on Lebron being the best. Make up your mind Kamla.
Aug.1 at 1:24 pm
Jukai says:
Wilkins was a VERY poor man’s Elgin Baylor. He could score insane amounts of buckets, and rebound when he had to, but his court vision was poor and his shot selection was sometimes a bit rushed and foolish. He didn’t really make his teammates better, all he knew how to do was carry the load. I’m not saying getting him out of that awful Altanta team wouldn’t have improved him drastically, I just didn’t see any incredibly qualities to him befores his scoring.
Aug.1 at 1:27 pm
Jukai says:
befores? Man… meant to say besides.
Aug.1 at 1:27 pm
Eboy says:
Jukai, I hope the list isn’t meant to be viewed as in order of greatness.
Aug.1 at 1:29 pm
BETCATS says:
!
Aug.1 at 1:29 pm
BETCATS says:
Jukai. Good list but still: where is David Robinson? Nate Thurmond first ever quad double mean ANYTHING? Willis Reed? Earl Monore? Wes Unsel? Reggie Miller wasnt on your list either!
Aug.1 at 1:29 pm
Jukai says:
It more or less is. I can’t say for certain if Dr. J really belongs at seven or if Walt Fraizer really belongs at 30, but as the list goes UP, I’m more and more positive of my placement. What do you disagree with Eboy?
Aug.1 at 1:29 pm
Jackie Moon says:
I thought Kamla loved KG, because of his Minny roots.
Aug.1 at 1:30 pm
DP says:
Bob Mcadoo. yes sir.
Aug.1 at 1:31 pm<