Jul.10 at 9:10 am

floe says:
y’know we live a world of excess when a guy like andrew bogut makes over 10 million a year.

Jul.10 at 9:11 am

josesito says:
yeh..she’s ok.

Jul.10 at 9:13 am

Michael says:
isnt he already rich? and 12m in milwaukee is like a max deal in ny

Jul.10 at 9:15 am

Rasheedionics says:
Does this mean he’s going to start wearing more bling and appear in rap videos?

Jul.10 at 9:15 am

Jukai says:
Bonus #432: an extra two hundred thousand for never growing out that rat-tail thing again

Jul.10 at 9:15 am

rabn21 says:
bogut gets 60 million over 5 years to play alongside jeferson and redd and play in weaker eastern conference, and bdiddy gets an extra million a year to get shafted by elton and gets the pleasure of playing for the clippers. thank god its his home town or we might have to put baron on suicide watch very shortly

Jul.10 at 9:18 am

Hursty says:
He deserves every single dollar he makes so all the haters can just fu*k off.

Jul.10 at 9:19 am

Hursty says:
*After the way that he’s performed over the last 3 years and the contributions he’s made to the team.

Jul.10 at 9:20 am

solito says:
He gets “game changer” money, but his points are mostly garbage points. He still has quite some upside, so I give him the benefit of the doubt.

Jul.10 at 9:21 am

Lz - Cphfinest3 says:
Besides from their fat paychecks, Baron gets the beach and the broads.. Bogut gets what?
Neither team will win a championship in a million years.

Jul.10 at 9:26 am

rabn21 says:
oops my last comment didnt post, what i tried to say was i wasnt hating on bogut just saying that he has to be a very happy man whereas baron musnt be feeling quite as happy, though ur right about the other perks of living in la i was talking more basketball related happyness

Jul.10 at 9:32 am

TADOne says:
Hursty: I’ll go “f*ck off” now. He is not worth that coin.

Jul.10 at 9:38 am

Hursty says:
The Bucks disgraceful offense which comprises of Michael Redd trying to penetrate the lane and throwing up 25 footers on a consistent basis and Mo Williams being a ball stopper on occasions needs to be rectified by Skiles, the renowned hard-@ss is actually going to run the miraculous things known as ‘offensive sets’ for Bogut where, by doing so he can use his full offensive repetoure of face up moves, back to basket and mid range jumpers. That would be ideal for the team. I like Redd and Williams. I really do, but they dont use the abilities of their team-mates. If a big guy runs the floor and creates a mismatch on quick hitters, reward him and GIVE HIM THE BALL next time, sh*t, the Bucks were a playoff calibre team last year except for the injuries but STILL should have won more games but they make stup*d fu*king passes at critical junctures. Please get a guy like Antonio Daniels who will run the sets and get others involved offensively. Im ranting, so I’ll get abused somewhere for this but thats how f8cking irresponsible the Bucks team has been the last few years.

Jul.10 at 9:41 am

Hursty says:
Tad? Hes arguably (stat wise) the 2nd best centre in the East right now. J.O is injured, Howard is a beast but doesnt really have a consistent skill-set. Rasho doesnt do much point wise, Horford is a 4. Sheed is a 4. etc.

Jul.10 at 9:45 am

Eboy says:
Hursty, I’m all for national pride and all but 2nd best center in the East? Seriously? Good morning/afternoon, btw. And if you are comparing positions, he plays like a 4, regardless of his assigned position.

Jul.10 at 9:49 am

Nick says:
He does play like a face up center, but he’s improved his rebounding to where he can play 5. In a vaccuum, i wouldn’t pay him close to 60 mil. But, line him up with a collins brother, zaza, jeff foster, and rasho, and he looks like the diesel.

Jul.10 at 9:51 am

Hursty says:
Morning E. Its now 11:50 pm in Aus. Yes, He plays like a 4 in certain situations. Villanueva plays 3 sometimes (unlikely now that Jefferson is herre). So he plays 5 but has a speed and skillset adv. over other 5’s. I can tell I’m going to be in for a long night with the comments I’ve made but I stand by them for the most part (except for the extreme nature of the Redd and Williams statement).

Jul.10 at 9:52 am

Hursty says:
I hope you mean the 05′6 season version Nick.

Jul.10 at 9:54 am

Hursty says:
* of Shaq that is

Jul.10 at 9:54 am

Squirrel7 says:
Whoa, calm down Hursty! I agree that the Bucks are a playoff calibre team (in the weaker East), but Williams seem to regress after his career year in 2006-2007, and Redd seemed to take a step back too. Personally, I don’t Bogut is worth that much, but I don’t think we’ve seen the best of him at the Bucks, as nothing is ever run for him..

Jul.10 at 9:56 am

Jukai says:
Bucks wont make the playoffs. Teams are in this order: Boston, Detroit, Cleveland, Phili, Orlando, Toronto, Washington, Chicago/Miami. And then Atlanta. And then Milwakee.

Jul.10 at 9:56 am

Nick says:
yes hursty, i do. also, i found a list of the incentives in his contract: 500,000 for never growing the rat tail again, 2 million dollars for not making borderline racist comments, 200,000 for every fake-teamate high-five, 9 million for not getting “ball don’t lied” by sheed again. Pretty straight forward.

Jul.10 at 9:58 am

Jukai says:
Bogut is a Kendrick Perkins with a better offensive game

Jul.10 at 10:08 am

blackjack says:
Perk is much better than Bogut

Jul.10 at 10:11 am

Hursty says:
@ Squirrel, ‘Im all fired up for this one’ at least we’re on the same page though.
@ Jukai- Neither Chicago or Miami will make the playoffs with the rosters they have (Chi-town is more likely though). Bucks have a far better roster, chemistry may be a problem though.
@ Nick, I couldnt agree more.
Just to clear things up. 1, Im Aussie and have massive National Pride e.g AUSSIE PRIDE. 2, That makes me a fierce defender of anything remotely Australian. e.g Bogut, Nathan Jawai, Luc Longley, Shane Heal. blah blah blah

Jul.10 at 10:15 am

Eboy says:
& Koalas, Crocodile Dundee, kangaroos, Bindy Irwin, Olivia Newton John, shrimp on the barbie, wallaby’s, tasmanian devils, Mad Max movies, Men At Work, Midnight Oil…………

Jul.10 at 10:22 am

Hursty says:
Darwinism, Patty Mills, Nicky Webster, Antarctica, thongs, sandals, Vegemite, Dick Smith, Platypus’s, Ian Thorpe….

Jul.10 at 10:24 am

Jukai says:
Hursty: Chicago’s roster is superior to Milwakee’s. Rose w/ Hinrich coming off the bench SECURES the point guard position, Hughes/Gordon are both as streaky as a drunk girl on marty gras but hopefully when one is not hot, you can put the other in and he will obliterate. That’s a sick backcourt right there. Add Luel Deng securing the three, Drew Gooden playing a solid four w/ Tyrus Thomas coming in to add energy, and Joakim Noah doing what he does best (which, in fairness, is something), and you have a ridiculously solid team. I haven’t even talked about my prediction that Aaron Gray will have a really great year. If it wasn’t for chemistry issues, I’d put Chicago even higher. As for Miami, if Wade is healthy, it doesn’t matter if the rest of the team is entirely comprised of Chris Quinns, that team is making the playoffs.

Jul.10 at 10:32 am

Eboy says:
Poor Chris Quinn.

Jul.10 at 10:33 am

Russ Bengtson says:
How many true centers are better than Bogut? How many will be better by the time this contract kicks in? Being a skilled seven-footer who can board is like being a left-handed starting pitcher in the majors—you’re gonna make a lot of money, and you’ll be able to play as long as you want. I can totally see the Bucks making the playoffs.

Jul.10 at 10:44 am

Hursty says:
THANKYOU RUSS! LEFTY PRIDE btw. I’ve never seen Chris Quinn play so I will with-hold my wrath. Normally I agree with what you say Jukai. The Bucks team is going to be more likely to make the playoffs though and I’m prepared to admit I was wrong if they dont AND the Bulls make it while Milwaukee misses.

Jul.10 at 10:46 am

Hursty says:
Whats wrong with Roses knee? ‘jammed’ dont sound too good, regardless of whatever the medical staff says.

Jul.10 at 10:52 am

Squirrel7 says:
I’m actually intrigued as to how anyone could defend Luc Longley, and also how anyone could expect anything other than garbage from Aaron Gray……

Jul.10 at 10:58 am

Slobodan Chutzpah says:
I, for one, wholeheartedly congratulate the Bucks front office for making a long-term commitment to mediocrity - whatever the cost. This is how even more teams should operate.

Jul.10 at 11:03 am

Z says:
No one in the L is overpaid. The money is there, revenues are through the roofs. If the money doesn’t go in the players’ pockets, the owners keep it. Now do you really care if Andrew makes a couple more mil or Sen. Kohl makes a bit less? I don’t.

Jul.10 at 11:04 am

Hursty says:
you two are just haters lol. Its my duty as an Australian representative on the site to defend even lost causes such as LL.

Jul.10 at 11:05 am

ciolkstar says:
Chi Town will need to mature as a group and develop chemistry in order to make the ‘offs. ON paper, they look like they could do some damage but they were just soo bad last year. I think Miami is clearly gonna lock up a lower seed. The Bucks, not so much. The players there aren’t bad, but i think jefferson’s numbers have been inflated by playing at a fast tempo as a finisher for Kidd. (ie, Kerry kittles, Kenyon Martin…) Skiles wants to be able to play grind it out ball, for which you need a strong rebounding 5. But the Bucks have seriously mismanaged their finances in the past and look to be doing so AGAIN by overpaying the isht out of Bogut.

Jul.10 at 11:07 am

Hursty says:
Bottom line is Bogut earned the salary and could’ve made more on the open market but stayed with the team and saved future stress while being flexible with his contract in later years to allow cap space.

Jul.10 at 11:08 am

H to the izzo says:
Smart move.

Jul.10 at 11:08 am

ciolkstar says:
@ Z not over paid in terms of dollar amount but overpaid relative to how that money could be spent aquiring other players more efficiently. Also, we’ve seen how small market teams do when they have absolutely no cap flexibility and “overpaid” role players.

Jul.10 at 11:08 am

Squirrel7 says:
I’m English, but I don’t try to defend the Kandi man!

Jul.10 at 11:08 am

H to the izzo says:
Maybe he’ll buy some bling now.He’s still an assh*le.

Jul.10 at 11:09 am

H to the izzo says:
Squirrel7:Ditto,my days of defending Pat Burke are long over.

Jul.10 at 11:10 am

ciolkstar says:
Hursty is blinded by Aussie pride. Which team was gonna give Bogut a max deal? PLEASE tell me (unless by “open market” u mean the Aussie league)

Jul.10 at 11:13 am

Squirrel7 says:
I think the Grizzlies would’ve considered giving him a max deal. I want some of what their front office is smoking…….

Jul.10 at 11:29 am

Hursty says:
@ciolkstar- read the link, also similiair on nba.com. Im out fellas, have a good one.

Jul.10 at 11:56 am

Nick says:
Hursty, you’re an aussie, will brad newley ever help the rockets?

Jul.10 at 12:00 pm

B. Long says:
WOW……

Jul.10 at 12:27 pm

dfrance says:
How about players get paid for what they’ve done, instead of what they possibly might do in 2-3 years of everything goes as planned…

Jul.10 at 12:48 pm

what says:
Damn… I was gonna make the bling joke, but I see Rasheedionics beat me to it by a few hours

Jul.10 at 1:08 pm

Dma says:
somewhere chris paul is pissed off.

Jul.10 at 1:13 pm

albie1kenobi says:
i fail to see how bulls is better than the bucks. the bucks are slightly better in every position, including head coach.
can’t believe the east may actually be competitive next year.

Jul.10 at 1:25 pm

tenorca says:
Milwaukee still has a team, huh? And what a weird one at that: Bogut, RJ, Redd, Villanueva, effing Gadzuric…just bizarre. They could win 50 games or 25 and I wouldn’t be surprised either way.

Jul.10 at 1:45 pm

Holy Baller says:
Ditto tenorca

Jul.10 at 1:51 pm

maik says:
in what exactly is perkins better than bogut? i hope blackjack isnt talking about basketball

Jul.10 at 2:58 pm

Teddy-the-Bear says:
Hursty, just for clarification. If Bogut is the “second best” and Dwight Howard isn’t as good (HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA), then number one is Yao Ming right? I agree with the Yao part.

Jul.10 at 3:03 pm

Moose says:
best nba centers: 1. Dwight Howard
2. Yao Ming
3. Amare Stoudemire
4. Andrew Bynum
5. Marcus Camby

Jul.10 at 3:16 pm

tenorca says:
Moose: Bynum needs to play more than half a quality season before he gets on that list. And you forgot Adonal Foyle.

Jul.10 at 3:43 pm

Z says:
Best NBA centers:
1. Duncan
2. KG
3. Dwight
4. Yao
5. STAT I don’t care what they sey they are. I watch the games and what I see is that they all play pivot on O and D.

Jul.10 at 3:43 pm

Z says:
say*

Jul.10 at 3:44 pm

Moose says:
i still think that bynum will be good this year though. i also think that other guys that i left off this list (tyson chandler, chris kaman, andris biedrins) are better than adonal foyle.

Jul.10 at 4:00 pm

Shaq says:
Kobe, you can’t do wit out me..
Kobe, you can’t do wit out me..
It’s always good to secure a talented 7 footer to anchor the frontline for years to come

Jul.10 at 4:03 pm

tenorca says:
Moose: I don’t disagree; just think it’s premature until he plays a full season as megaBynum that the rest of us fear.
And please don’t tell me you thought I was serious about Foyle. He’s probably not even in the league next year.

Jul.10 at 5:43 pm

Chris Ujma says:
I am going to my boss tomorrow and saying that although i am a rough diamond, i think i have great potential in the next few years so can i have 60k a year now? Because consultants exactly like me are hard to find, so although others do it better, we are a rarity. Wonder what he will say…. Only in the NBA; where getting paid before you’ve done the job happens

Jul.10 at 6:22 pm

Moose says:
tenorca, i didnt think you were serious, but i didnt want to say anything bad cause i didnt want to offend you if you were serious

Jul.10 at 6:40 pm

shawn says:
he sooooooooooo does not deserve 10 mil when Okafor is still on the market.

Jul.10 at 8:41 pm

Hursty says:
You fellas need to read the comments that I made again. I said in the East and not once did I mention the Western Conference. There are better centres than Bogut in the West for sure- but that wasn’t my point.

Jul.10 at 8:52 pm

LAN says:
f*ck off ya’ll, he is the 2nd best centre in the east. He is going to be an all-star next year, 14 and 10 aren’t shabby stats for a 3rd year centre with mo running the point. For a guy that got cut from the nong rep squad as a junior he’s become quite a good player

Jul.10 at 9:01 pm

LAN says:
@hursty: how can you possibly defend Shane Heal? That man is a w@nk*r. Did you see what he turned south dragons into? He got the coach fired(good coach to), got tod fuller fired who averaged a quite 20 and 10 who also had nba experience, then got 2 more aus all star centres fired to. He’s good for one thing jacking up stupid shots

Jul.10 at 9:39 pm

Dacre says:
LOL… You can tell the Aussie’s are out in force on this thread….
i dont even have anything to add… Shane Heal has always been on peoples backs, he had a go at the NBA and his pride got in the way… you make your own decisions.
I think Bogut is the funniest guy in the NBA, other than Scalabrine so call it “show money” thats fine with me…

Jul.10 at 10:45 pm

Brandon Hoffman says:
What do Zydrunas Illgauskas, Marcus Camby, Al Jefferson, Tyson Chandler, and Carlos Boozer have in common? Anyone? Anyone?

Jul.10 at 11:09 pm

Hursty says:
How can one defend Nicky Webster or John Howard? @ Brandon- theyr’e all really, really ugly?

Jul.10 at 11:18 pm

Joel O's says:
A lot of people are ripping Bogut… but how many see him play on a regular basis? Again, players on small-market teams get overlooked. The truth, as Mutoni has stated and Hursty has elaborated, is that centers are in short, inelastic supply in a league where every damn team wants a decent center. If you’re seven feet tall, even if your name is unpronounceable, you can’t speak English, come from a scary foreign country - as long as you know how to stand in the colorful painted rectangle and raise your hands up high, you’ve got a job in the NBA.

Jul.10 at 11:20 pm

Hursty says:
Oh I get it Brandon… smart@ss. BTW, he will actually earn less than those above because he’s still on his scaling rookie contract for next year (making your blog post wrong). Camby earns more, so does Z, Al is on a rookie contract with an extension next year, Boozer earns more as well next year.

Jul.10 at 11:21 pm

Joel O's says:
If you can grab a bunch of rebounds, it’s icing on the cake… and if you can put up a double double, you’re gonna get paid very well. This is silly. If Bogut put up his numbers in LA or NY or Boston, people would be calling him the next Bill Walton or something.

Jul.10 at 11:22 pm

Brandon Hoffman says:
@ Hursty: You’re right. Thanks for pointing that out.

Jul.10 at 11:25 pm

Joel O's says:
Centers get paid well because there aren’t many half-decent ones around who are good at what they do. Look at the lists above and beyond the top 5 or 6 centers, the standard drops sharply. Compare this to the supply (excuse the economic talk) of swingmen out there in the league who are decent at what they do. There are bucketloads of guys on bad teams who can put up 20 ppg, given the chance. Even the worst team in the league has some chucker who’ll give you 20. That results in a plentiful and elastic supply of swingmen… so it’s hard to stand out, really, and a lot harder to get paid as well as a better-than-mediocre center does.

Jul.10 at 11:25 pm

Brandon Hoffman says:
Man, I hate it when I make a miscue like that…

Jul.10 at 11:29 pm

Brandon Hoffman says:
But…Bogut is still going to make as much or more than Zydrunas Illgauskas, Marcus Camby, Al Jefferson, and Tyson Chandler in 2009-2010. That’s outlandish.

Jul.10 at 11:31 pm

Hursty says:
totally agree Joel.

Jul.10 at 11:34 pm

Brandon Hoffman says:
@ Joel & Hursty: The line between center and power foward is a blurry one now. Pivotmen are far more athletic than they used to be. So I don’t think it’s accurate to justify Bogut’s contract because he plays center. I think his deal needs to be compared to that of power forwards too.

Jul.10 at 11:35 pm

Hursty says:
@ Brandon, he’ll be 25 at the time. Z will be in his mid 30’s. Camby too, Al will have a bigger contract than Bogut because he will be able to get an extension and he is the cornerstone of the Wolves (unlike Bogut, who shares that role)Chandler will be 30 and it really depends on his supporting cast (CP3) on how he performs as he cant create his own shot like Z or Bogut or Al for that matter.

Jul.10 at 11:39 pm

Brandon Hoffman says:
@ Hursty: Jefferson’s contract kicks in next season. Hoopshype lists his deal at five-years, $65 million. You’re right, he’s the cornerstone. He’s deserving of his deal. You said Bogut shares the role of the Bucks cornerstone? With who? Redd? Bogut isn’t being paid like he’s sharing the role. I’d put money on both Chandler and Jefferson outperforming Bogut over the course of their careers. Would you take a bet like that?

Jul.10 at 11:39 pm

Hursty says:
It has definitely, even point guards wil take minutes at the 2 (Mo, Gil) and players like Kobe and Tmac will play 3 and Butler will play 2… they are pretty much interchangeable skillsets. I blame Shawn Marion and Boris Diaw and Mike D’Antoni for all the confusion…

Jul.10 at 11:43 pm

Joel O's says:
@Brandon: Good point. The lines have indeed blurred, because like a lot of people have pointed out, a bunch of centers play like power forwards. Maybe you could think of big guys as being divided into 2 groups: “pure” big men who play big, bang a lot and play down low (Bynum, Bogut, Yao, Dwight, Camby, Chandler, etc.) and the wispy inside-outside big guys who’re finessey, mobile centers or PFs (Amare, KG, Dirk, etc.). What the two groups do is very different in terms of their skill set and style, and they fill very different roles in different teams.

Jul.10 at 11:47 pm

Joel O's says:
But yeah, since “true” centers are so damn hard to find, and since there’s been this small ball trend of late, the lines have really been blurred. I don’t think we would’ve seen Hakeem or David Robinson or Patrick Ewing as PFs, as much as Shawn Kemp and Karl Malone and Dennis Rodman are thought of as centers. Things’ve definitely changed.

Jul.10 at 11:47 pm

Hursty says:
Chandler will actually be only 28 or so my bad, he might have more success on teams than Bogut but as a ‘player’ Bogut is already ahead of him after 3 years. Chandler was 2nd overall in 2001 (behind Kwame) so its not like he wasnt rated out of H.S he jumps real well, runs the floor and helps the team in rebounding and blocks and frees Paul up (see the lobes?) on picks. Jefferson is already ahead of Bogut but if hes stuck on a shiat team for the next 5-7 years he wont do anything in the post season. The Bucks have the coaching staff and the roster to make the playoffs right NOW so its hard to tell, kinda crystal ball gazing. 1. Jefferson (as an individual). 2. Bogut. 3. Chandler. Redd gets a max deal and was ‘the man’ after Ray left town so its ‘on him’ for their success. Villanueva is important for the success of the team, so is RJ and Mo (please pass the ball).

Jul.10 at 11:48 pm

Joel O's says:
Jerome James.

Jul.10 at 11:51 pm

Hursty says:
Malone played centre for the Lakers, so did Horace Grant ( I think). Hakeem played 4 with Ralph Sampson (the footage of a 7 footer and 7′3 guy LEADING a fast break is amazing). So it was ‘there’ but not in the public eye.

Jul.10 at 11:52 pm

Hursty says:
@ Joel, why mention him?

Jul.10 at 11:57 pm

Joel O's says:
The Bucks DO have serious problems though. I don’t think RJ will be unselfish having played his entire career with JKidd. Regarding Michael Redd however - he’s a great shooter and all, but I have no idea how on a team with pretty decent offensive talent like the Bucks (Simmons? Charlie V? Yi?) he hasn’t been able to effectively share the ball enough to create baskets for his teammates. The early 2000’s Iverson averaged TWICE as much assists as he does while playing on teams where the 2nd option was Matt f*cking Geiger, and he was called “selfish”.

Jul.10 at 11:58 pm

Joel O's says:
If James can get paid to eat donuts on the team bus, Bogut deserves his dough.

Jul.11 at 12:04 am

Hursty says:
They always have Skiles around though. Charlie Bell can slide to the 2 and hopefully Ramon Seesions will keep up the awesome play of the last weeks of the season and fit in at the point if Mo is being a di*k. (Mo was on my fantasy team so dont think I dont know).

Jul.11 at 12:05 am

Hursty says:
Oh, the contract, I get you now…. ( Im slow sometimes hehe)

Jul.11 at 12:05 am

Joel O's says:
Also, for better or worse, Yi Jianlian and his 20mpg are gone now. So please let Charlie V play more and run stuff through him. For all his offensive prowess, he’s a very, very good passer and has excellent vision… he’s got Derrick Coleman-esque skills. If the Raps had held onto him instead of Bargnani we wouldn’t have had to trade for gimpy JO and have our entire season hinging on Bosh/JO’s creaky knees.

Jul.11 at 12:11 am

Hursty says:
*25 Joel. Bosh and Calderon are a nice 1′2 punch, but since Ford and Bosh were both H.S buddies I wonder how things will turn out after T.J is gone now and whether his game will regress. (Bosh that is).

Jul.11 at 12:27 am

BroD says:
Did someone really name drop Todd Fuller? And Vinny Del Negro is relevant? What year is this?

Jul.11 at 12:30 am

Joel O's says:
@Hursty: Yeah. Chemistry issues in TO, too. Calderon’s good pal Garbajosa is gone for good, too. I just hope we get what we paid for in JO, but I have a horrible sinking feeling that Kris Humphries is gonna get a lot of playing time again.

Jul.11 at 12:31 am

Joel O's says:
I would think that my name would be relevant if I was an NBA head coach. Someday it’ll happen if I keep at NBA Live.

Jul.11 at 12:40 am

Hursty says:
hahaha Joel

Jul.11 at 7:36 am

buggsie7_aus says:
go nathan jawai he will be the best center in the east next year

Jul.11 at 7:42 am

buggsie7_aus says:
go nathanjawai he will be one the best centers in the east after a few seasons

Jul.11 at 8:04 pm

Shaun says:
at seven feet, 260lbs, bogut IS a center, period. with that said, ill second the notion that todays big man has changed from what they used to be. you can run with an athletic big man at the 5spot with not as much size such as dalembert, camby, big ben and still have success in this league. but 102 posts and NOT ONE of you has mentioned his passing skills? has anyone here actually watched bogut play? he more than makes up for his athleticism with superior court vision for a big. he’s the type of center where you could have him in the high post and run the offense through him which would get shooters like redd and mo will open shots while you’ve got RJ slashing through the open lanes because of the defenders having to close out. and they got someone like villanueva who’s a great scorer and can spread the floor? bogut more than deserves the money because not only are good centers hard to find, but ones that can pass like bogut are EXTREMELY hard to find. his low post face-up game is already not bad, but if he can develop a back to the basket game then all you haters WILL be eating your words…

Jul.13 at 5:27 am

sab says:
fair point Shaun, but I still think I’ve read the statement “The Bucks are quietly building themselves a nice little team; with a few more moves, they could start making some noise in the East pretty soon.” at the start of the last two seasons as well, and yet, it never happens. because really, their roster is NOT top-level. easy forecast for the season: 35 wins, not quite making the playoffs, same season as last two… I like RJ, i like Redd, and i’m not dissing Bogut, he’s alright, i guess…. but they’re not a good team