Pistons/Magic Game 4 Game Notes: Live At The BBQ
There was a road win in these playoffs!
By TADOne or… Tim Darga!
(Sam here. Is there anything better than “unmasking” a commenter so you can see their real name? He asked for it, so I present to you Tim Darga, whom you know as TADOne. These are his game notes he sent me from Game 4 of the Pistons-Magic, the rare 2008 playoffs road victory. They remind me of something else. Anyways, it’s all you Tim…)
It’s 4 pm on a cloudy Saturday afternoon, and the overcast sky is threatening rain. The weather appears like the perfect metaphor, because I just found out Chauncey Billups will not be playing in today’s game 4. The Pistons strength coach Arnie Kander and Billups have basically lived together since Wednesday’s game 3, when Billups did some splits that made Mary Lou Retton blush with pride, doing around-the-clock treatment on Billups hamstring to try and get Chauncey well enough to play. “I’m actually spending more time with him than my wife,” joked Billups, “bottom line, I’m just not ready, man.” Pistons rookie Rodney Stuckey will start in place of Billups, with both Juan Dixon and Lindsey Hunter being activated for today’s game for backcourt depth.
Even though Billups absence is by far the biggest obstacle facing the Pistons for today’s game, it is not the only one. The Pistons have other wrinkles that need to be ironed out, like finding a way to disrupt the Magic’s 3-point onslaught, slowing Rashard Lewis, and getting more production from their big men.
I believe in having the same routine after a Pistons win, as not to jinx any good momentum. After losses, I do the exact opposite, and will go and watch the game somewhere else or with friends. After The Magic’s game 3 blowout of Detroit, I am watching the game from my boys house. Despite the crappy weather, my friends are barbecuing outside today: cooking steak, burgers, and hot dogs on the grill and drinking some cold brew. The music is bumping in the background, and Main Source’s classic song “Live at the BBQ” comes on the radio. Quite fitting and I am steady bobbing my head as I type. I am feeling some good karma.
Pregame: Mike Wilbon is talking about how the Pistons are not panicking, that they are playing to take the series back to Detroit and having Chauncey healthy for game five. Meanwhile, Billups looks like he has taken some fashion cues from LeBron James and Gilbert Arenas, wearing the oddly popular ‘Civil War’ jacket (shout out to Russ!).
1st Q:
Antonio McDyess is starting his first game in the series, relegating Maxiell back to his normal 6th-man role. This means that Wallace will start out defensively on Dwight, with McDyess serving as a ‘tag-team’ defensive partner on him. Rodney Stuckey is starting in place of Billups, and he does not look the least bit nervous. I take this as a positive sign.
Turkoglu scores the first point of the game by connecting on one of two free throws. Rip Hamilton gets Detroit on the scoreboard on a goaltend by Howard, who is active early. Dice connects on his first shot of the game, while Jameer Nelson sinks one free throw and clanks the second. The Pistons look comfortable from the outset.
Dwight Howard is doing a bit of everything right from the start with a couple of blocks, an early basket, and some rebounds. Tiger Woods is in the house, and he looks as though he has aged 10 years since The Masters tournament. Stuckey comes out looking to be aggressive, and is taking it hard to the basket. The rookie is poised.
Detroit’s game plan early on appears to be having the guards aggressively take it to the rim and attack Orlando inside. Rasheed gets his 1st basket on an offensive put-back. Orlando is trying to get Dwight involved early and often, but Howard rushes and misses a few close shots. Detroit has 4 turnovers, and the Magic have an 18-13 lead going into the 1st commercial break. The early turnovers show exactly how much Billups is missed.
They replay Howard’s highlights from the dunk contest. I’m still impressed. Rashard Lewis has had consecutive possessions where he has taken the ball hard to the basket and gotten easy layups. The Pistons defense is a step slow, and the Magic have a 10 point lead. A couple of better defensive sequences for Detroit and fastbreak baskets by Hamilton get Detroit within six going into a timeout. I reload with another brew while Stan Van Jeremy waxes poetic on Howard’s growth as a player.
Rodney Stuckey gets his 2nd foul on a reach-in and Lindsey Hunter enters the game, seeing his first action in the postseason. The Pistons are ice cold from outside, and Orlando goes ahead by 10. An amazing Prince block while chasing down Mo Evans from behind on a break away dunk seems to give Detroit some life, and they go on a mini-run to close the quarter. At the end of the 1st quarter, the Magic lead 27-21. Flip Saunders shoos the cameraman away from the Detroit huddle as we go to a commercial. The heat is on Flip to get Detroit back to the finals, and he seems to be feeling it some.
2nd Q:
Maxiell comes in for Sheed, and Hunter stays in. Detroit gets two quick steals and close within 2. Detroit is on a 15-2 run from the end of the 1st quarter into early in the 2nd, being led by Prince and Hamilton, and forces Orlando into a timeout. Prince will be an All Star next year, count on it. The brew is going down a bit smoother now.
Detroit and Orlando start trading baskets until Orlando’s secret weapon, Marcin Gortat, gets two straight baskets. Somewhere, Chad Ford is feeling himself. Wallace gets a cheap foul and in his usual fashion he gives the ref “The Business”. For whatever reason, Flip puts Stuckey back into the game, and Rodney picks up his 3rd foul. In my mind, I’m saying some very unsavory things about Flip Saunders and his family, while outwardly I chug my brew.
With 3 minutes left, Orlando is up 8. Turkoglu is quietly playing up to his MIP status, while Rasheed has been eerily quiet today. Rip Hamilton’s 16 points is keeping Detroit in the game. The absence of Billups is glaring as Detroit has turned the ball over 3 straight times, and Orlando races out to an 11 point halftime lead, 55-44. Detroit needs to make adjustments to slow Orlando’s pace, but that is not Flip Saunders forte. I decide to get up and move around to change the bad karma Detroit has. Time for another brew and a Bubba burger, the best around.
3rd Q:
Orlando looks very confident coming out of the locker room, while Detroit needs to get Rasheed involved. Flip must have heard me, because Sheed starts the half with a baseline jumper. Unfortunately, Detroit still has not figured out the art of defense, and Orlando is 7-10 from 3 point range so far. Detroit is being straight outhustled and need to find some energy quick. Orlando quickly goes up by 15.
As if being able to telepathically heed my advice, Detroit goes on a 15-0 run, led by some stingy defensive effort. The Pistons are back to typical Dee-troit basketball, contesting shots and spreading the wealth on offense, getting contributions from all 5 players on the court. Orlando has not scored in almost 7 minutes and Detroit has some life in their legs. The Amway Arena crowd is getting restless.
Nelson ends the Detroit run with a layup, before Lindsey Hunter drains his 2nd 3-pointer in the last 3 possessions for Detroit. Unsung hero? After trailing by 11 at the half, Detroit has taken back momentum and dead-locked the score at 70 going into the 4th quarter. Orlando is playing tight and looking nervous, while Detroit has been here before. The sun is finally out and it is time for another cold brew.
4th Q:
Detroit carries momentum into the 4th and are playing suffocating defense, while Rasheed seems to finally have awakened with a steal and a basket. An early 4-0 run forces the Magic to take a timeout. Dwight Howard has not scored a field goal since the 7:03 mark of the 1st quarter, and you can clearly see the frustration on his face.
Howard and McDyess get tangled up and McDyess tackles Howard as he is falling to the floor, and Matt Millen immediately calls Antonio’s agent to offer a contract to play middle linebacker for the Detroit Lions. Both players get techs. Howard is completely frustrated right now, while the Magic as a team only have 19 second-half points. The Pistons are up 80-74 with 6:26 left in the game, and Van Gundy takes a timeout to get his young squad focused.
Things are getting chippy in the game as Hamilton and Lewis join in on the theatrics and get tangled up, spewing some words to each other that make me blush. The Pistons experience is showing as Orlando is forcing shots and Detroit is getting all the hustle plays going their way. At this point, Hedo Turkoglu remembers he is the MIP of the league, scoring six straight points and Orlando goes back in front by one. Another friend has come thru the BBQ, and I have decided he is cursing my team. I give him a dirty look and he leaves the room. I’m not the nicest person to be around at these times. I chug on my brew and decide to pace around the room to change up the vibe.
Detroit is 12-12 at the free throw line today, and Rip Hamilton has a huge 30 points. Turkoglu has scored the last 10 Magic points. Just to prove these two teams clearly are not liking each other right now, Dooling and Hamilton get tangled up, and Dooling picks up a technical at a critical juncture. He argues the call while Hamilton misses the technical free throw, the Pistons first miss at the line today. Hamilton then makes up for it by hitting the two free throws from the foul call. Detroit’s experience in this situation is evident.
It’s crunch time and the Magic are showing their inexperience, as Nelson misses one of two free throws. They’re clinging to a fragile one-point lead with less than a minute left in the game. The Pistons call for an unfruitful Rasheed Wallace iso, but Antonio McDyess out hustles two other Orlando players for a HUGE offensive rebound. The shot clock resets and the veteran Detroit team milks the clock. The ball touches all five players’ hands before Tayshaun Prince ends up with the ball, and he patiently waits for a pick and gets into the lane for a running left-handed floater, the biggest shot of his career.
With Detroit up by one with eight seconds left, Ron Van Gundy draws up an iso play for Hedo Turkoglu, who is covered by Prince at the top of the key. Hedo holds the ball for about five seconds before making his move, and charges into the lane, knocking down a stationary Jason Maxiell, but no charge is called. Turkoglu’s shot is disrupted and he misses the layup. The clock goes to all zeroes as Detroit grabs the rebound. Joey Crawford blows his whistle as the Pistons celebrate, causing a brief moment of confusion. It appears as though he is considering calling a foul on Orlando on the rebound, and after a brief discussion, decides against it and calls the game over. I quietly pump my fist in celebration.
Analysis:
Detroit has clearly proved their mettle, and take a commanding 3-1 series lead back to Motown. They are a confident bunch after proving the doubters wrong who said they couldn’t win without their lead man in Billups. Meanwhile, Orlando clearly has to be disappointed in a game in which they let a 15 point second half lead get away and couldn’t hold serve on their homecourt, a game they desperately needed. Van Gundy needs to get young Dwight Howard to quickly forget his abysmal eight point performance and move past it before game five. The Magic need their big man back to his 20/20 form if they stand any chance of getting this series back to Orlando.
I turn the music back up, grab a celebratory brew, and quietly bask in the Pistons victory. I have a full stomach and have a nice beer buzz going on. I bob my head to the music in the CD player, the new Roots album. I will have a permanent smile on my face until Tuesday.








41 Responses to “Pistons/Magic Game 4 Game Notes: Live At The BBQ”
May.13 at 12:48 pm
Eboy says:
What’s a Tim Darga?
May.13 at 1:05 pm
5mooth says:
It’s all about Deetroit baby!
May.13 at 1:16 pm
TADOne says:
This didn’t seem that long when I finished it.
May.13 at 1:28 pm
Eboy says:
It really wasn’t that bad, TAD.
May.13 at 1:37 pm
H to the izzo says:
TAD/Tim:Is the smile now gone?
May.13 at 1:50 pm
TADOne says:
Still there izzo. Unless, of course, Chauncey doesn’t play again tonight.
May.13 at 1:52 pm
Eboy says:
Well, even if he doesn’t, his choice of jacket would have to be a source of happiness.
May.13 at 1:56 pm
Cheryl says:
I know all about pacing in circles with brew in hand to “change up the vibe”. I did that during the Heat’s game 6 against these very same Pistons (well, they had Big Ben then, but whateva). The Magic lost because they don’t yet have what the Pistons and Spurs have–playoff will. The belief that they can pull it out in the end, even when the clock looks against that happening.
May.13 at 2:05 pm
TADOne says:
I pace a lot, Cheryl. It is probably why I watch the games by myself most times so that people don’t think I’m crazy.
May.13 at 2:12 pm
Eboy says:
Having the ball in Hedo’s hand at the moment of truth is also a telltale sign of things to come, Cheryl.
May.13 at 2:23 pm
Cheryl says:
That’s true. He and Peja’s play looks eerily familiar from the King’s days, don’t they?
May.13 at 2:24 pm
Cheryl says:
I pace a lot, too Tim. Only with my dog following me around the room like she’s getting her daily walk. Good thing she recognizes my tile isn’t grass!
May.13 at 2:27 pm
TADOne says:
Well, since Detroit is 3-0 when I take game notes, guess what i’m doing tonight?
May.13 at 2:29 pm
TADOne says:
Actually, they haven’t lost when I have drank either.
May.13 at 2:39 pm
Cheryl says:
Ummmm, let me guess…
May.13 at 2:39 pm
Tariq says:
TAD!!
May.13 at 2:43 pm
TADOne says:
Not on your level Riq, but I try.
May.13 at 2:43 pm
Justin says:
As corny as it sounds, and it sounds quite corny, I still believe in Magic. Especially since I have tickets to Game 6. Hopefully that it isn’t a jinx.
May.13 at 2:46 pm
TADOne says:
So what happens if it doesn’t make it to game 6? Do you get a refund?
May.13 at 2:46 pm
Tariq says:
Don’t worry, Tim: nobody’s on my level.
May.13 at 2:47 pm
Justin says:
TADOne, can I make a request for a “liquor and note less” evening for you?
May.13 at 2:48 pm
Justin says:
Yes, they give a refund. I’d rather have the game than a refund. And I love the Main Source reference BTW.
May.13 at 2:50 pm
FLUXLAND says:
Congrats, TAD! Or do we call you Tim from now on? I’m staying delusional and taking the Magic, although as game time approaches I don’t feel as confident about it.
May.13 at 2:51 pm
TADOne says:
Thanks Justin. It’s Tuesday, so I can pretty much say I won’t be drinking, but i’m quite sure i’ll be taking notes, albeit much shorter notes. And Tariq: You have no shame, do you?
May.13 at 2:53 pm
Tariq says:
None.
May.13 at 2:58 pm
TADOne says:
Thanks Flux. Oh, and it looks like Chauncey may play tonight. They are leaving the decision up to him.
May.13 at 3:55 pm
albie1kenobi says:
TAD, you sound like a broken record with all the times you said “experience pistons” and “inexperience magic” in the recap. are you trying to become an espn commentator or something?
seriously good notes.
May.13 at 4:20 pm
TADOne says:
I’d like their paycheck, yes.
May.13 at 7:21 pm
albie1kenobi says:
come to think of it, i’d like to get pay to talk about games too.
May.13 at 8:47 pm
BETCATS says:
arent they playing righte now?
May.13 at 10:25 pm
Ben Osborne says:
TADOne, that title is looking doable!
May.13 at 10:33 pm
Justin says:
Hard to win in the Playoffs when you are throwing the ball all over the place. Hats off to the Pistons for the Series, but the Magic beat themselves tonight.
May.14 at 8:16 am
TADOne says:
Ben: Yes, it is.
Justin: Yeah, the Magic were pretty much ‘butter-fingers’ all night long.
May.14 at 8:52 am
Eboy says:
Congrats to your boys, TAD. It looks like they’ll have a long rest before the conf. finals.
May.14 at 12:07 pm
TADOne says:
Chauncey’s hamstring will need it too.
May.14 at 3:11 pm
Tuomas says:
Very nice notes TAD. As for last night, bright spots for Detroit were McDyess being the difference-maker, Stuckey playing better than Nelson, Maxiell’s D, Rip’s first half and Tayshaun saving his game by two awesome plays down the stretch. Oh, and Sheed’s turnaround. Too bad he started forcing threes (0-6 on the night) near the end. Just about everything else was garbage. From DBB commenter Michael: “It’s like they are holding open the door for Orlando and the Magic keep walking into the wall.” Sums it up pretty well. For every open jumper missed by the Pistons, there was a horrendous turnover by the Magic. The one by Bogans in the fourth was probably the worst, the guy fumbles the ball with not much pressure on him, gets away with bouncing it on the sideline - and they still manage to lose possession a couple seconds later. Too bad there had to be a winner in this game.
May.14 at 4:37 pm
TADOne says:
Tuomas: Yes, Orlando was horrible in their ballhandling and possessions. They had 21 total turnovers, and 9 were unforced turnovers. Quite and ugly game. However, I give the Pistons, and especially Stuckey, a ton of credit for only turning the ball over 3 times. Stuckey has grown up in front of everyone these last 2 games.
May.14 at 4:38 pm
TADOne says:
Also Tuomas: I did game notes for game 5, I should have them up shortly and if you just click on my name, you’ll find them.
May.14 at 5:10 pm
Tuomas says:
Even copied SK’s baseline spin move. Glad he seems to have gotten his life in order, even if the comeback never materialized… Anyways, I’ll read the notes and be glad there are people as active as you.
Yeah, if we go to team positives, Pistons D in the first seven minutes of the fourth joins taking care of the ball. Like I said elsewhere, Stuckey played great, but he doesn’t have Chauncey’s court awareness. He made up for it big time though with his now patented slashes and zero turnovers. He showed flashes of this during regular season, but these games are always question marks. Btw, I had briefly seen the site, but hadn’t even looked at the authors until like two days ago. Kemp used to be my absolute favorite growing up, had to do with my position back then: pf, now more of a Marion type, with a lot less ugly J, and minus the hops of course
May.14 at 5:14 pm
Tuomas says:
Even copied SK’s baseline spin move. Glad he seems to have gotten his life in order, even if the comeback never materialized… Anyways, I’ll read the notes and be glad there are people as active as you guys.
Pistons D in the first seven minutes of the fourth joins taking care of the ball if we look at team positives. Like I said elsewhere, Stuckey played great, but he doesn’t (not yet at least) have Chauncey’s court awareness. He made up for it big time though with his now patented slashes and zero turnovers. He showed flashes of this during regular season, but these games are always question marks. Btw, I had briefly seen the site, but hadn’t even looked at the authors until like two days ago. Kemp used to be my absolute favorite growing up, had to do with my position back then: pf, now more of a Marion type sf, with a lot less ugly J, and minus the hops of course
May.14 at 5:16 pm
Tuomas says:
Oh fcuk with the duplicates…