Apr.3 at 9:06 am

Eboy says:
What an embarassement, again.

Apr.3 at 9:08 am

backboard says:
what are they gonna replay? the last .5 seconds?

Apr.3 at 9:12 am

riggs says:
they should just add the seconds and see if it matches when ford let go of the ball.

Apr.3 at 9:12 am

The Second Coming says:
ugh. sad. everyone and their mom knows that rule…clock starts on the touch.

Apr.3 at 9:14 am

iLL wiLL says:
Ref starts the clock, not the score keeping table.
Nothing will happen. Stop making the Hawks score keepers at the escape goat. Yeah, I said ‘escape goat’. Sue me.

Apr.3 at 9:17 am

Benoit Benjamin says:
sad to see that the hawks finally have a decent team, but they have to change everything else in the organization

Apr.3 at 9:21 am

Holly MacKenzie says:
Sucks for the Raptors because that was one ridiculous play to get TJ the ball.

Apr.3 at 9:30 am

BOB says:
I’m a sports journalist, and APTN fed us that game today. I just watched the play frame by frame, and it appears the clock was already at .3 when Ford caught the lob. And I think that’s what made the difference, so the Raps have the right to appeal.

Apr.3 at 9:33 am

Steve says:
That was terrible and the Raps got robbed twice in Atlanta in three years. There is no excuse for this mistake with the use of instant reply. None. I hate the NBA.

Apr.3 at 9:37 am

Steve says:
I tried to contact the NBA regarding this, but for some reason their contact forum on their website has been down since the end of last nights Raps game. Not sure if its because too many people were sending complaints so they just closed it, but I know Raps fans can be emotional so I wouldn’t doubt it.

Apr.3 at 9:40 am

iLL wiLL says:
Have you seen the Raptors board on realgm.com? (don’t know if i can mention that site here, oh well)
That board went crazy last night. Even the Hawks board is getting a ton of posts too due to Raps fans.

Apr.3 at 9:42 am

Lang Whitaker says:
Yes, Will got that right: The refs were supposed to start the clock, not the scorer’s table. Canadians sure are touchy.

Apr.3 at 9:44 am

BETCATS says:
the officials must miss their X factor, Tim Donugahie

Apr.3 at 9:52 am

Marcel Mutoni says:
i had read somewhere this morning that it wasn’t clear who started the clock. the scorer’s table or the refs. it’s early, i’m allowed to be touchy!

Apr.3 at 9:55 am

Marcel Mutoni says:
www.thestar.com/article/409473

Apr.3 at 10:11 am

yusuf says:
IM SO MAD

Apr.3 at 10:14 am

FLUXLAND says:
Raptor fans need to stop crying. They lost the game well before that play. TJ should have dunked it anyway. Although COY Sam M. drew up a nice play.
—
Canadians are not touchy, its just that the Raptors get no respect anywhere. They only get covered cuz they are they are part of the NBA, not cuz anyone cares. If they joined the NBDL would anyone notice?

Apr.3 at 10:14 am

iLL wiLL says:
Don’t deny the Hawks a chance at knocking off the Celtics in the first round! Oh how sweet that would be. JSmoove knocking down a three point shot in PSquare’s grill. I can dream.

Apr.3 at 10:17 am

Russ Bengtson says:
The Raptors got f*cked.

Apr.3 at 10:26 am

Dizzle says:
Canadians are touchy? I don’t think that we are.
We’re just passionate about our teams; unlike some people in certain cities (ie. Nets, Heat, Memphis, etc.) And yes, the Raps got SCREWED.

Apr.3 at 10:31 am

Shroomy says:
Yeah I was watching the game and it was clear that Toronto got shafted. The clock was at .4 when Ford caught the ball and it was released by less than .1 of a second from counting, with the messed up clock. It might work out for the Raptors if they can slide into the 6 seed instead of 5th though.

Apr.3 at 10:32 am

matt the jazz fan says:
Um guys, everyone reacting to Lang’s comment about us being touchy sort of proves Lang’s piont…

Apr.3 at 10:32 am

matt the jazz fan says:
his pOInt, too.

Apr.3 at 10:36 am

vmcb says:
This gaffe made me angry. This isn’t the first time this has happened in Atlanta. It must be a conspiracy to get the Hawks some W’s.

Apr.3 at 10:54 am

Jess says:
This was absolutely ridiculous. How are they going to let this keep happening? Is this realy the only way the Hawks can win ballgames? I mean the Raps won on an amazingly executed play (and lack of Hakws defence) and yet again they were robbed in Atlanta. This was HUGE because Washington lost and it would have put the Raps a full game ahead of them. Something needs to be done in Atlanta..And I mean I know the refs were watching the red light in the reviewing but common sense should have played a role. You have HALF A SECOND, and you’re telling me that a guy -who is already in the air- cant lay it in? I mean I have seen a guy catch turn and shoot(with .3 left) and his basket was good…maybe the refs should have looked at the clock one time in their reviewing (and I dont even think they had 100% accuracy as to whether the ball was out of TJ’s hands)..wow..and I think the reason that you think Canadians are touchy is because we’re passionate. I know that the 150 people at the game last night were glad that their scoreres table won again but I mean come on the Raps got screwed. What is it about TJ Ford that the Hawks don’t like? Wasn;t it one of his points last season that didn’t make it on the scoreboard, Horford almost decapitated him, and now the clock starts early and his game winning basket doesn’t count…hmm…

Apr.3 at 10:56 am

BETCATS says:
maybe teams are just shooked they got beat by the HAWKS

Apr.3 at 11:10 am

Co Co says:
Wow, you guys are angry! LOL WEll let me just say as a Hawks fan, suck it up! You guys blew a 17 point lead, hell an 11 point lead in the 4th qtr. Until they rule in favor of a replay the win belongs to us and we’ll take it!

Apr.3 at 11:12 am

Khalid Salaam says:
WOW

Apr.3 at 11:14 am

RV says:
i think this happens in the NBA more often than people think, its just that in the hawks’ situations it involves close late second games…

Apr.3 at 11:15 am

BxBaller says:
Somebody is going to lose their job down there. Hell, how does someone get to be the timekeeper? What application do they fill out?

Apr.3 at 11:20 am

Co Co says:
The timekeeper was a league official. And even if it were an employee of the Hawks, That’s just how we do it in the “A”! Win at all costs! Hahahahaha! Calm down Dinosaur fans!

Apr.3 at 11:22 am

steve says:
An error in judgment during the game without the assistance of instant replay is forgivable, sometimes, but the fact that they had instant reply and they still blew the call is a joke. This should never ever happen. Whether its the score keeper or a referee, someone needs to get fined or lose their job. If its the score keeper in Atlanta, he definitely needs to lose his job.

Apr.3 at 11:25 am

Co Co says:
I seriously doubt the league is going to fire a ref because he screwed up a Hawks/Raptors game! I mean let’s be serious, the Hawks haven’t gotten this much publicity in years. The Raptors are cute, but come on. Do you really see them advancing past the first round regardless of who they play?

Apr.3 at 11:29 am

Khalid Salaam says:
Co Co is putting the smack down on these girl ass Raptor fans!! Holla!! (i’m in a very antagonistic mood today)

Apr.3 at 11:33 am

Co Co says:
“girl ass” Khalid??? I quite possibly should be offended by that right?? LOL

Apr.3 at 11:36 am

FLUXLAND says:
“The Raptors are cute, but come on.” see:
…”the Raptors get no respect anywhere. They only get covered cuz they are they are part of the NBA, not cuz anyone cares. If they joined the NBDL would anyone notice?” And the irony of Khalid backing her up… priceless! Let’s not forget his famous: “No one in North America cares about the Raptors or the Atlantic Division and never will”
—
I dunno why the bothered to put Bosh on the cover .. oh wait… he’s American.. that’s right..

Apr.3 at 11:38 am

phunkykarma says:
The Hawks won, and that’s it.

Apr.3 at 11:39 am

Co Co says:
The Hawks can debate you on the no respect card all day.

Apr.3 at 11:40 am

Lang Whitaker says:
As long as they go back and replay every single inbounds play from the entire game where the clock might have started a tenth of a second early, I’m fine with replaying it.

Apr.3 at 11:40 am

Ro says:
How hard can a time keepers job be? Where do I apply?
The Raps deserve to lose for blowing their forth quarter lead.

Apr.3 at 11:43 am

Co Co says:
Yeah, what Lang said.

Apr.3 at 11:44 am

Khalid Salaam says:
Sorry CoCo. I mean punk ass

Apr.3 at 11:44 am

FLUXLAND says:
The Hawks got no respect cuz they sucked. There is a difference. The Raptors can win 6 titles in a row and Americans would wonder who the Raptors are.

Apr.3 at 11:46 am

Eboy says:
Lang’s a Hawks employee. His opinion should be negated.

Apr.3 at 11:47 am

Khalid Salaam says:
Fluxland..my man!…

Apr.3 at 11:48 am

Co Co says:
Well the Raptors have only won 3 more games than the Hawks so I guess they suck too, although I wouldn’t know that for sure because I don’t pay attention to non American teams……

Apr.3 at 11:50 am

Ken H. says:
Hey illWIll, whats an escape goat? Is it like an escape route? Or and escape clause? SCAPE GOAT, let’s all brush up on our vocabulary now.

Apr.3 at 11:51 am

iLL wiLL says:
Damn. Coco calling the Raps ‘cute’. As a die-hard Raps fan, that hurts my feeligs. Deeply. Hows about you spend a night out on the town with the kid?

Apr.3 at 11:53 am

FLUXLAND says:
Khalid! Your words have not been forgotten, Sir. Co Co: I said suckED..not suck
— What gets me about the play is there should have been more then 0.5 seconds on the clock, to being with. There should have been at least 0.07, if not 0.09. see for yourself.. Bibby three goes in aaand… http://img502.image shack.us/img502/6051 /bibby3wh2.gif

Apr.3 at 11:54 am

Co Co says:
Ill Will, the Raptors are cute, but harmless and you know that in your heart. I’m just teasing you guys for the hell of it.

Apr.3 at 11:56 am

iLL wiLL says:
Coco, ill pick you up at 8 tonight.

Apr.3 at 11:58 am

Co Co says:
okay, should I dress casually or formally?

Apr.3 at 12:01 pm

iLL wiLL says:
Casually elegant, like you always do.

Apr.3 at 12:01 pm

RV says:
Ken, technically, i believe its SCAPEGOAT, one word, the original meaning though was ESCAPE GOAT, so I guess he’s possibly more correct than you are.

Apr.3 at 12:03 pm

iLL wiLL says:
The original meaning was actually ‘escape goat’? I am actually in a bit of disbelief.

Apr.3 at 12:11 pm

RV says:
you know what i mean, i think

Apr.3 at 12:25 pm

Jukai says:
I think the Hawks scoring table should win sixth man of the year

Apr.3 at 12:26 pm

Jukai says:
I’d be more inclined to believe it was a ref error had this not happened on TWO OTHER OCCASIONS IN THIS YEAR ALONE for the Hawks. Also, Joe Johnson is a very ugly man.

Apr.3 at 12:29 pm

Adam says:
One, the Raptors blew a 17 point lead.
Two, TJ should have gone glass instead of keeping the ball in his hands too long by reaching over and dropping it right in the hoop.

Apr.3 at 12:33 pm

Myung says:
The call was wrong. The shot by TJ Ford should’ve counted. That being said, it wasn’t the first time in history a home team got a call to go their way. I’ve been to a ton of home games and watch every other Hawks game that I don’t go to… RARELY do we get calls for our benefit.

Apr.3 at 12:36 pm

shakey handle says:
the raptors are useless anyway. I don’t want to watch them lose in the first round again. Learn to play some D.

Apr.3 at 12:36 pm

Jess says:
Who cares that the Raps blew a lead or TJ didn’t use glas,they WON..thats all there is to it. I mean they won the game yet the Hawks and the 150 people in the stands were celebrating….terrible

Apr.3 at 12:36 pm

Co Co says:
It was the officials fault. I think the Dinosaur fans anger is misguided.

Apr.3 at 12:39 pm

Myung says:
The way both teams played defense, they both deserved to lose. To me, the biggest shock of the night wasn’t that the Raptors blew a big lead. Or that the Hawks have won 5 in a row. Or that we’ve won 9 of 11. Or that Mike Bibby hit that crazy 3 from the corner. Or that Sam Mitchell drew up an awesome inbounds play. JOSH SMITH WAS 3 FOR 3 FROM DOWNTOWN?! Every time this cat shoots anything outside of 4 feet of the rim, I cringe. This was me 3 times last night: “What the heck are you….YAY!!!”

Apr.3 at 12:42 pm

Jukai says:
I know you don’t like to read outside of the Slam forum Co Co, so I’ll post it for you: —————————————— “Still, it’s unknown who actually started the clock at the moment in question last night. Each of the three referees is equipped with a belt pack outfitted with a button that starts the clock. The timekeeper, a Hawks team employee, also has the power to start time. The first one to hit the button triggers the countdown.” ——————————— if it’s unknown, I’m going to say the Hawks scoring table, who have already rigged games twice in the past two years, had something to do with this.

Apr.3 at 12:43 pm

Jukai says:
Really though, regardless of who did it, the Raptors beat the Hawks. I really think the victory should be overturned and the Raps given a W, and I don’t like either team.

Apr.3 at 12:46 pm

Co Co says:
Give me a break Jukai. The game is over and the Hawks have the win. That probably won’t change. Move on. I’d have to assume in a situation like that one of the refs starts the clock just so things like this don’t happen. Either way, the Raptors aren’t a real threat to anyone in the playoffs, so it doesn’t matter who they play.

Apr.3 at 12:48 pm

Myung says:
Like Lang said, if you want to add up every tenth of a second that was called wrong throughout the game, then go for it. If not, well, I doubt they’re going to replay this game. The Raps played well (especially Bosh and Rasho). They blew a huge lead. We got some home cookin’ on that TJ Ford call. Period. I’m not going to get into a war of words with you TDot fans (I know how passionate you guys are, which I really admire), but you’re talking about a team and a fanbase in the Hawks that has the longest playoff drought in the NBA. We’ve been playing in Philips Arena since 1999, and we’ve yet to host a playoff game there. Let us have our rare moment in the sun.

Apr.3 at 12:48 pm

iLL wiLL says:
Myung hit it right on. JSmoove went 2 for 2 on the long ball in the final minute. That should never happen. Plus, the Hawks had three good looks at the end which Bibby hit to send to OT.
Somehow, if the Raptors and Hawks meet in the playoffs…

Apr.3 at 12:54 pm

riggs says:
if anyone seen the bucks vs magic, the opposite happened, the clock started AFTER bogut threw the pass to sessions.

Apr.3 at 1:00 pm

Myung says:
iLL wiLL, I’m a diehard Hawks fan (like Lang and CoCo), but I’m also one of the few who really dislikes Josh Smith’s game. I DO think he’s the best weakside shotblocker not named Camby in the L. He’s an athletic freak who can jump out of the building. He can occasionally hit a J (as he did last night). But let’s just say I really hope we do a sign and trade this summer where we ship him off to another team. He’s one of my least favorite Hawks. You know how Duncan has the patented bank shot? Shaq has his one handed FT? AI has the crossover? Well, Josh Smith’s patented move is the “1 for 2 FT.” Watch him play. When he goes to the line for 2 FT’s, he’ll go 1 for 2. That’s his patented move. =)

Apr.3 at 1:04 pm

Jess says:
So just because the Hawks haven’t made the playoffs in so long they should be given the W - enough said..wow I dont agree but whatever whats done it done its just a shame that this game could be huge in determining playoff seeds. Whatever no matter how much we all b*tch and complain it isn’t in our hands. The Raps lost and the Hawks won. It is now up to the Leauge to step in and do what is right.

Apr.3 at 1:07 pm

iLL wiLL says:
JSmoove has improved his freethrow shooting. He just doesn’t get to the line consistently each game. When he does get to the line a lot, he usually makes em, but yeah, that 1/2 freethrow business is annoying. Smoove is the heart of the Hawks, nobody on that squad can match his heart. The guy is 23 though. He’s no Darius Miles, but certainly the Hawks would be making a mistake letting him go. He has really excelled since Bibby came on board. His field goal percentage has shot up, and he’s putting up

Apr.3 at 1:08 pm

Co Co says:
Myung you should know Josh’s value to this team. I’m so disappointed to hear you say trade him. Trade him for who? He has his faults, but he’s averageing 17 points, 8 rebounds, 3 asst, 3 blks and he’s only 22. If you think this team is better without him you’re wrong. Marvin is only effective if his jump shot is falling, if it isn’t he doesn’t contribute anything else. At least Josh attempts to play defense and when his shot isn’t falling he’ll still hustle. I’m not ready to give up on him and if they trade him then we can lookd forward to another few years without the playoffs.

Apr.3 at 1:09 pm

iLL wiLL says:
less stupid jump shots.

Apr.3 at 1:09 pm

iLL wiLL says:
Tell em Coco

Apr.3 at 1:10 pm

HyunATL says:
haha Myung (I guess your korean too) 1 for 2, at least hes going to the basket more. I hate it when he decides hes a jump shooter when he aint. Still, I like Josh, I want him back. The Raps got screwed. but please dont act like we get special love from the NBA though, cus the hawks get crapped on and gets little respect too. with that being said I still like the Raps since they got Bosh, but they need to calm down on the realgm board. dang. I hope the Raps bounce back and go on a tear the rest of the season, hopefully we can meet in the playoffs. but thats very very unlikely Reazun

Apr.3 at 1:11 pm

iLL wiLL says:
plus, he’s averaging close to 2 steals per game.

Apr.3 at 1:15 pm

Myung says:
I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree, CoCo. I would say, “I watch all his games,” but I suppose the same could be said for you. We’re just 2 hardcore Hawks fans who don’t see eye to eye on Josh. I know the stats are there. I know he’s young. But I also think his basketball IQ is low, he makes too many dumb turnovers, he has no offensive moves, he takes too many jumpers for his own good, he pouts all the time, and he argues too much with our (poor excuse of a) coach.

Apr.3 at 1:16 pm

Co Co says:
Let’s not forget Josh was the best player on the team at the beginning of the season because Joe was STRUGGLING! I was amused that Joe was the Hawk that made the All star team.

Apr.3 at 1:20 pm

Co Co says:
Who on the team doesn’t argue with that coach? If several players on the team have gotten into it with Woody, then perhaps Woody is the problem. I don’t have a problem with Josh pouting, because at least he shows some sort of emotions which no one else on the team does. That’s the reason Joe doesn’t get calls, because he doesn’t stand up for himself. Josh definitely doesn’t need to make a habit of dribbling, but I think if you can point out all the things that are wrong with him and still get the numbers he gives you, then you live with it.

Apr.3 at 1:20 pm

iLL wiLL says:
He pouts because he does not like Ty Lue taking so many jumpers. He argues with his coach. How is Woody a coach? The guy will do what it takes to win. The ‘jumpers’ that he takes, yikes. THAT he needs to work on, but he’s never going to be a go to guy or anything. He’ll be a tremendous sidekick. Hawks should be honoured they have him.

Apr.3 at 1:22 pm

iLL wiLL says:
At this point, Smith and Horford should not leave the Hawks. Anyone else is good to go. That goes for Joe Johnson too.

Apr.3 at 1:23 pm

Myung says:
What defines best player on the team, Coco? Just one’s stats? I’ve played basketball for the past 20 years of my life (never on a high level team, but I still play as much as I can), and I’d hate to play with a guy like Josh Smith, as arrogant as that may sound. But again, the BIGGER point is, I never said let’s let him walk. I never said I hated him. I never said he sucks. I simply said I don’t like his game and that I hope we do a sign and trade. There’s a difference. Then again, we have a GM who will probably… not… do the right thing.

Apr.3 at 1:24 pm

Mike says:
If Derek Fisher can catch a pass and shoot a turnaround fadeaway in 0.4, then TJ Ford can sure as heck catch a lob and lay it in quickly in 0.5

Apr.3 at 1:24 pm

Myung says:
I’m one of Mike Woodson’s biggest critics and have been since his 2nd year in the L. Let’s get that much straight; we’re all on the same page.

Apr.3 at 1:25 pm

Maurice Garland says:
they dont call it the Dirty South for nothing…

Apr.3 at 1:27 pm

iLL wiLL says:
Smith is a pretty underrated playmaker. He makes some dumb passes, but that’s because Zaza has hands of stone. As for his low basketball IQ, yeah, he can work on that, but he is doing all he can to help the team. That cannot be said for other guys on the team.

Apr.3 at 1:27 pm

Myung says:
Coco, are you an attorney? =) I said let’s agree to disagree, but it sure sounds like you’re baiting me. “If you think this team is better without him you’re wrong.” You have your opinion; I have mine. The difference between you and me is, I never once said yours is the wrong one. Either way, I’ve stated my case; you’ve stated yours. Whatever. We both pull for the same team, and I’m sure we’ll both be screaming at the top of our lungs come game 3 of Round 1 of the playoffs at Philips Arena (my wife and I have already purchased our tickets). Go Hawks!

Apr.3 at 1:29 pm

Co Co says:
I don’t think you hate him or anything like that, but I don’t see how the Hawks get better by trading him. Who would you suggest they sign and trade him for? You can not like his personality, but he’a a baller. I don’t care if he’s not a choir boy. It’s not like he gets into trouble off the court. If he has a problem with losing games, I love it! I just don’t see how you can dislike someone for being competitive.

Apr.3 at 1:31 pm

Co Co says:
I’m not trying to bait you…..promise.

Apr.3 at 1:36 pm

Myung says:
I don’t see how some people like country music, but they do, Coco. They do. Goodness, I’ve never ONCE said I dislike him. I never ONCE said anything about his competitive drive. I feel like you’re putting words in my mouth, my friend. Once again, I dislike a lot of things about his game, and I like a few things about his game… the dislikes outweigh the likes (in my opinion); therefore, I’d like to see us get some bench depth and veteran leadership and more shooters (to answer your question of how we get better by trading him). I’d be perfectly fine if we threw in Mike Woodson in the trade, even if we got back a bag of chips and $300 in return.

Apr.3 at 1:39 pm

Myung says:
But again, Co Co, I’d love to just agree to disagree… bc Hawks fans are few and far between (although I sense the bandwagon has grown from about 10 to about 100 in the past month). No need for us to stand divided. =) I dig your passion for the home team.

Apr.3 at 1:42 pm

Co Co says:
All of your complaints lead me to believe you dislike him. I mean if I pointed out 20 things I don’t like about someone every time I talk about them, one might get the feeling I don’t much like that person. One might be right. Either way, we tried the whole veteran leadership thing with the likes of Speedy, Lue, AJ, forgive me if I don’t want to go that route again. Mike Bibby is a vet Joe is a vet and hell The Josh’s have been in the league 4 years. They’re vets too.

Apr.3 at 1:43 pm

Adam says:
I think Smith definitely needs to take it to the rack more. On the other hand, he rarely has plays called for him, he has to get in where he fits in. Woodson’s whole arsenal of plays consists of Joe isos, the occasional pick and roll, and the even more occasional backdoor alleyoop to Smith. Also, you guys haven’t mentioned Childress yet. Me and my buddy were trying to decide if we need to try and keep Smith, Childress, or both…

Apr.3 at 1:43 pm

Co Co says:
But, we will agree to disagree.

Apr.3 at 1:43 pm

Co Co says:
I say keep Chills and Smith and let Marvin walk. He’s a one trick pony.

Apr.3 at 1:47 pm

Myung says:
First of all (Chuck’s favorite phrase), I DID point out the things I do like about him (which you might have overlooked). Secondly, you pointed out in one argument how young Josh is (therefore we should overlook some of his impetuous behavior), yet you just mentioned how he’s a veteran….OK, I’ll stop here. Now I’m the one baiting you. Haha…whoops.

Apr.3 at 1:50 pm

Myung says:
I WILL agree with you on this, Co Co: Marvin IS, so far in his career, a one trick pony. A 6′9″ spot up shooter. What a shame. He’s one of my favorite Hawks, but it’s sad that he’s relegated to hitting wide open J’s (a la Steve Kerr).

Apr.3 at 1:50 pm

Co Co says:
My puropse in pointing out that he’s young is that I think there’s still room for his game to grow.

Apr.3 at 1:50 pm

Co Co says:
I knew we’d agree on something!

Apr.3 at 1:59 pm

Myung says:
We also agree that Mike Woodson’s a terrible coach. That’s 2 things. =) Let’s see what else we can agree on: Al Horford is the best rookie we’ve had since Jason Terry? Chick-fil-A in the CNN Center food court is the best place to eat a pre-game meal? We need to go back to the Pac Man uniforms? Dominique Wilkins is one of the most underappreciated superstars in League history? Our home crowds have improved but still, in a word, suck? Mike Bibby needs to shave his head for the Playoffs?

Apr.3 at 2:02 pm

iLL wiLL says:
Horford tipped the pass before it got to Ford.

Apr.3 at 2:03 pm

Co Co says:
Okay I’m with you about almost everything, but I’m digging Bibby’s hair and the new uni’s have grown on me.

Apr.3 at 2:04 pm

Co Co says:
That’s what he says Ill Will. I wonder….

Apr.3 at 2:05 pm

Adam says:
Chik-fil-a is delicious, but that Gorin’s place has the best beer I think keep Chill and Smith, but keep Chill coming off the bench a la Ginobili, move Horford to the 4 and somehow pick up a true center (I don’t know who). I will be so pissed if Durant wins ROY.

Apr.3 at 2:06 pm

Myung says:
Yeah, they’re not that bad (I have an away #15 Horford jersey), but I’d still love for us to eventually go back to the 80’s Pac Man look (Atlanta’s Air Force).

Apr.3 at 2:06 pm

Co Co says:
Durant is going to win ROY, Horford should win, but think back to Melo and Bron….

Apr.3 at 2:07 pm

iLL wiLL says:
Chill coming off the bench a la Ginobili. Coming off the bench. The comparison ends at that.

Apr.3 at 2:07 pm

Adam says:
Jermaine Oneal?…..

Apr.3 at 2:08 pm

iLL wiLL says:
JoeL Anthony is the answer to the Hawks center spot!

Apr.3 at 2:09 pm

Myung says:
I think the most VALUABLE rookies have been Horford and Scola, but I compared Horford’s #’s with Durant’s, and I’ve got to admit that Durant has him beat, if it’s just based on stats. Don’t they normally award ROY to the rookie with the best stats and not really take into account team success (a la the MVP)? I’m with you guys: Horford’s the best rookie (and he’s quickly becoming my favorite Hawk)… but I wonder if he’ll win the award. Maybe it’ll be a split, like when Ason Kidd and Grant Hill shared it?

Apr.3 at 2:10 pm

iLL wiLL says:
Durant is asked to be the face of a franchise, go out and carry the scoring load for 82 games. Horford is not. Scola is not. Durant is putting up 20ppg. That alone will probably get him the ROY. Does he deserve it?

Apr.3 at 2:11 pm

Adam says:
Hmm, I could live with a split decision I guess. Horford is my real dad.

Apr.3 at 2:15 pm

Myung says:
If we need a center, I hear Cal Bowdler and Priest Lauderdale aren’t doing anything these days. We could also sign Solomon Jones. Oh wait. He’s already on our team. He’s just one of those 5 guys who sit there and watch the Kiss Cam during time out’s while Woody goes with the 7 man rotation.

Apr.3 at 2:16 pm

Co Co says:
Of course Durant was going to average 20 ppg, they traded away anyone who could possibly take shots away from him this summer. No one hearts Durant more than me, trust me on that, but I gotta go with my boy All who is leading all Rookies in double doubles. He contributes to wins in more than just one way. I think that should count for something

Apr.3 at 2:17 pm

Adam says:
What about Salim and Speedy? What a waste of money Speedy has been!

Apr.3 at 2:18 pm

Co Co says:
Craig is dead to me.

Apr.3 at 2:29 pm

benny says:
game’s done. one team got an L & the other a W. but this nonsense about Tor deserving an L & the Atl deserving a break? sure, that makes sense! & lang, we know it’s your team & this is your block, but should the final seconds in any tight game…in any sport…never be questioned because seconds could’ve been lost earlier in the game? you serious?

Apr.3 at 2:34 pm

SLAM ONLINE | » Links: Candian Shakin’ says:
[…] And it looks like, technically, the clock did start a little early. But my point, which I made earlier this morning here in Mutoni’s post, is that I’m pretty sure the clock starts that early on every inbounds play in every game. It’s impossible for a human to be correct all the time, so we often have to accept the closest thing to perfection that’s available. […]

Apr.3 at 2:36 pm

crazylee12 says:
While it’s true that the Raptors blew a 17 point lead, it’s also true that the referee first ruled that Ford’s layup was good. After PONdering DI REPLAY(sorry, i couldn’t resist), the refs ruled that the ball was still touching TJ’s fingertip(s) when time expired, but that was only due to the fact that the game clock was started early, soo…the NBA should factor in the lost tenth of a second or so and decide whether or not it had an effect on TJ getting the shot off on time.
BREAK OUT THE SALAMI AND CHEESE, MAMA, BECAUSE THIS DEBATE IS OVER!

Apr.3 at 2:52 pm

iLL wiLL says:
Aw man, this guy broke out the salami and cheese.
Terrible.

Apr.3 at 2:56 pm

Myung says:
i must be out of touch bc i have no idea what homeboy is talking about.

Apr.3 at 3:48 pm

what says:
Waaaaaaah I’m a raptors fan and my team lost because the ref screwed up not because my Euroleague azz team can’t hold a 17 point lead against one of the poorer offensive teams in the NBA Waaaaaaaaaaaah

Apr.3 at 3:48 pm

what says:
Al Horford says he tipped the inbound. Regardless it’s too close to call either way. But if Horford tipped it it’s a moot point.

Apr.3 at 3:51 pm

what says:
I gotta agree with Myung, the jerseys Nique used to rock in the Omni is where it’s at

Apr.3 at 3:52 pm

what says:
Oh yea don’t sleep on the pizza place right by the entrance to Philips either

Apr.3 at 4:04 pm

Jukai says:
The NBA: where home jobs happen!

Apr.3 at 4:18 pm

Boing Dynasty says:
hahaha i LOVE hawks fans saying no cares about the raptors. thats good stuff.

Apr.3 at 5:17 pm

tealish says:
Haha. Funny stuff. What makes it all the better is how the Hawks are relevant now.

Apr.3 at 6:08 pm

hursty says:
again hahaha!

Apr.3 at 6:18 pm

The Biz says:
If TJ played better d on bibby you guys might of won

Apr.3 at 6:32 pm

ian Cameron says:
does Tim Donaghy now work as a score keeper???

Apr.3 at 8:00 pm

Cameron says:
the raps shouldve lost that game cuz its their fault for letting the hawks come back from 17 down. GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!1

Apr.3 at 10:24 pm

Boing Dynasty says:
It dosent matter if they gave up a 100 point lead, the team who scores the most points in 48 minutes is the winner. Thats 48 mintues. Not 47 minutes and 59.8 seconds.

Apr.3 at 11:12 pm

Dacre says:
You know, I’m a qualified scorebench official here in Australia. Maybe I should see if they need a competent statistician over there?
^_^

Apr.4 at 4:35 am

hursty says:
me too dacre. i can ref too. Can i get Tim Donaghy’s position as an unbiased ref?

Apr.4 at 5:22 am

Jolst says:
Referees are overpowered. Players should call their own fouls so we can get rid of the refs.

Apr.4 at 9:17 am

whitewater says:
go pistons

Apr.4 at 12:15 pm

crazylee12 says:
ill will- Breaking out the salami and chees is never a bad thing, provided you do it at appropriate times and don’t over use it. Also, I feel that it is something that needs to be shared with NBA fans teh World over.
*”Break out the salami and cheese…” is something that Raptors play-by-play announcer Chuck Swirsky says when he feels that the Raps have no chance of blowing a lead. He also says “Onions, baby, onions!” after a nice play.

Apr.4 at 12:21 pm

crazylee12 says:
Also, if Horford tipped the inbounds, like he claims he did, shouldn’t the clock have expired before the ball even came close to touching TJ’s hands?
(I’m not crying about losing the game, cuz if we had played better it wouldn’t have even come down to this; I’m just trying to factor logic into the debate).

Apr.5 at 2:36 pm

Al4ROY says:
So, guy who wrote this Marcel Mutoni, the clock in question was actually started by an NBA ref, from his hip. So it wasnt anything at the scorers tables, or anything like the first flook. Go Hawks