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Point Guard Controversy in Toronto?


by Marcel Mutoni

To be perfectly honest, I’m surprised it didn’t happen sooner: TJ Ford is showing signs that he’s unhappy coming off the bench behind the ever-improving Jose Calderon.

If his body language in the couple of games before last night had been translated into words, you’d have shielded your kids’ ears. Tuesday in Orlando, non-plussed he’d been hooked from the game, Ford made a 20-foot walk to the bench look more like a procession to the electric chair. It wasn’t the only outward expression of his discontent.

“T.J.’s a good guy. He’s a good person,” said Darrick Martin, Ford’s fellow point guard. “He’s just working through some issues and he’ll be fine.”

In sports, there’s a line of thinking that claims that a guy shouldn’t lose his job due to injury. It’s a nice (if romantic) idea to be sure, but completely unrealistic.

Ford went down with what some feared could into a career-ending injury back in December, and Calderon stepped in and adroitly steered the Raptor ship and nearly earned himself an All-Star appearance for his troubles.

Even with a healthy Ford, it wouldn’t be right (or make very much sense) to yank the Spaniard from the starting lineup. Them’s the breaks, TJ.

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66 Responses to “Point Guard Controversy in Toronto?”

Mar.6 at 11:36 am

BETCATS says:
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Mar.6 at 11:37 am

Holly MacKenzie says:
Calderon needs to continue to start and get more minutes than he is getting right now while they are trying to appease Ford and work him into the rotation. I like TJ and I’m thankful he was able to return to the game, but Calderon has been fantastic for the Raps and he deserves to be rewarded for that.

Mar.6 at 11:38 am

Krayzie Bone says:
The thing that allowed the raptors to sneak up on people last year was their chemistry, the fact that they didn’t have these problems. This year we’ve had griping from Garbo, the now traded Juan Dixon, Humphries and now Ford. Not good.

Mar.6 at 11:38 am

overtime says:
Understanably hes ,upset,everyone wants to play minutes, however at this point he should be more concerned with how his team is doing, and how high their seed can be, theres no denying Calerdon is playing amazingly. Toronto have gota feel lucky, having possibly the best point guard duo in the east.

Mar.6 at 11:43 am

Mark Z says:
If you’ve seen Calderon when he’s on, you wouldn’t question the decision. TJ has been great in spurts, but he’s understandably gun shy after his injuries…

Mar.6 at 11:43 am

Captain America says:
This situation was inevitable. Both of these PGs are great competitors and highly skilled professionals. Sam needs to get TJ to take coming off the bench in stride for the remainder of the season for the good of the team.

Mar.6 at 11:44 am

Lz - Cphfinest3 says:
Trade TJ for scoring-wing player and play Calderon 35+ minutes backed up by whoever. That’s absolutely the best the Raps can do, TJ is nice and all but he’s small and will IMO never reach the level that Calderon is currently on. Whereas Calderon seems to improve by the minute. No reason to have that good a player (TJ) sitting on the bench, when he could bring in another piece to the puzzle, arguably a piece they miss.

Mar.6 at 11:46 am

Lz - Cphfinest3 says:
And Slam can we please get some kinda article on LeBrons Knick-mauling. MJ’esque..

Mar.6 at 12:00 pm

Eboy says:
Calderon looked pretty good last night killing the Heat. Make friends with the bench, TJ.

Mar.6 at 12:02 pm

Sesa says:
How about playing both? Both are a good shooter too.

Mar.6 at 12:08 pm

neaorin says:
Calderon is pricing himself out of Toronto with his play. Somebody is going to offer him a large contract in the offseason; either that, or he’s leaving in a sign-and-trade. No way can Toronto afford to keep two PGs making mucho dinero going forward.

Mar.6 at 12:08 pm

TADOne says:
Playing both would get them absolutely killed defensively.

Mar.6 at 12:10 pm

TADOne says:
Toronto can match any offer made to Jose. I’m quite sure if anyone departs, it would be TJ.

Mar.6 at 12:14 pm

rav says:
The only teams that have significant cap room are memphis and philly - neither needs a pg. therefore its only mid-level or s&t, and s&t’s require toronto’s permission to work, so i cant see him costing them too much. besides, he doesnt come across as the type who is a mercenary, so provided he gets offered decent money he’ll stay. plus tj ford is better as a 6th man imo

Mar.6 at 12:14 pm

neaorin says:
I’m not sure who is going to trade for TJ’s 3yr, 25 million deal considering his injury history.

Mar.6 at 12:15 pm

FLUXLAND says:
Someone noted on here before how Jose has overachieved this year. I cannot forget the last play of games 6 vs NJ last year. Lets see how he does in the playoffs this year before we start forking over truck loads of money on someone who has done nothing but had a great assist to turnover ratio during the REGURAL season and cannot play defense.

Mar.6 at 12:18 pm

neaorin says:
And while Toronto can match any offer to Jose, it makes little sense to tie up that much money in the PG spot. Jose is a bargain at his current price but is he really gonna accept anything less than what TJ is making, considering he’s clearly outplaying him?

Mar.6 at 12:26 pm

Dizzle says:
It’s a wait and see situation with the Raps right now. They’re probably better off sticking with both of them since:
a)No one would want TJ b/c of his injury history and contract b)I think Jose will stay as long as his contract is reasonable. Jose seems like a pretty good dude that’s just grateful to be playing basketball. Shouldn’t TJ be more worried about his health than playing time right now? I’d be worried if I just came back from a big injury. And I certainly wouldn’t be complaining about mins. Come on TJ, be realistic here.

Mar.6 at 12:29 pm

J.B says:
someone please make a trade for ford to phx? start runnin agian

Mar.6 at 12:31 pm

Tom says:
This issue has been brewing for a while, even before the TJ injury. I think Jose’s play since the injury should have answered all the questions, Jose is the better pg right now, and the Raps play better when he is on the floor.

Mar.6 at 12:33 pm

rob stewart says:
I knew tis would happen. It was just a matter of time. Both are excellent PG’s. Toronto will probably keep Calderon becuase TJ is injury prone and smaller. TJ would be great in Boston or even Denver if they ever played some defense. I could see him playing real well with Bron or Kobe. TJ is like a Chris Paul Light.

Mar.6 at 12:33 pm

Jess says:
I think everyone is making a big deal out of nothing. TJ is going to come off the bench for the rest of the season..thats that. Jose and TJ have played together quite a bit since TJ returned and I think this is beneficial to the Raps because Jose has improved his shooting so much, threfore TJ can run the point, Jose can play the 2 and you have two ball-handlers on the floor. They play completely different styles and they can be used diferently depending on the match-ups. Im so suprised that everyone is so quick to trade one of them. And the Raps need another wing player? are you serious? Have you seen the Raps play, or even their roster? Oh and there is nothing wrong with the Raptors chemistry….

Mar.6 at 12:34 pm

Tom says:
The main problem is I think you can tell Mitchell seems to favor TJ because especially for the last few games he leaves TJ in there when any other coach would have stuck him on the bench way sooner, and sometimes he pulls Jose at inexplicable times.

Mar.6 at 12:36 pm

Tom says:
Yeah, the last thing the raps need is another wing player. Ideally you want to keep them both because it is the best pg combo in the league, especially since they’re styles are so different. Jose is great at getting everyone going and picking his spots and TJ is great when the team needs a shot in the arm.

Mar.6 at 12:49 pm

Krayzie Bone says:
I’m still rocking my Starters winter Jacket from 1994 when TO go their franchise, so I wouldn consider myself pretty observant and devoted to them. The chemistry problems are a bad sign, and yes the need a wing player. Parker is too slow, and Moon is too raw. Delfino is inconsistent and Kapono can’t keep up with the lateral quicks of Shaq. They need a defender pronto. As for Calderon, he can’t be priced out of the toronto market because of the restricted free agency thing like TAD said. No one is going to offer him 10 per year, and Toronto will match anything up to about 8 in my estimation. Id say the only team that Jose would leave to go to is the Lakers because of Pau, since Garbo has got one year left and is then likely done in the L.

Mar.6 at 12:50 pm

Krayzie Bone says:
Where is Ryne. I want to see the video of the flagrant on Bargnani yesterday, and he’s the most likely source, but its not up on his youtube channel yet.

Mar.6 at 12:50 pm

ciolkstar says:
This is good news. I picked up calderon on both my fantasy teams awhile ago (right before the injury to TJ). Needless to say, Jose has been absolutely killin it and TJ needs to QUIT SWEATING HIMSELF, play hard and SUPPORT HIS TEAM. CALDERON is so real.

Mar.6 at 12:55 pm

Krayzie Bone says:
I think Jose as a starter this year has been 13 and 10

Mar.6 at 12:57 pm

TADOne says:
People still wear Starter jackets?

Mar.6 at 1:28 pm

Bigi says:
“Are you NOT entertained!!!”

Mar.6 at 1:31 pm

SA says:
If anyone watched the Rap/Magic game from the other night TJ put up a nice line, but he basically cost them the game in the forth. He put up his teams first 8 shots of the 4th, and must have turned the ball over at least 5 times in that stretch. So, the first 10+ possessions of the 4th Q of a close game ended with TJ forcing a shot or turning it over. Not exactly the best option at PG when your team is full of shooters.

Mar.6 at 1:36 pm

what says:
Calderon’s better than TJ

Mar.6 at 2:03 pm

Krayzie Bone says:
Just me TAD. It shows my commitment to the team (or more accurately my skinflintness)

Mar.6 at 2:08 pm

whooo! says:
earn your minutes tj! i hate seeing kids think they’re entitled to things when they haven’t done sh*t in this league. work for your minutes and prove you deserve to start, and if not, then play your position or leave.

Mar.6 at 2:13 pm

RV says:
They both are not good shooters, Calderon is a good shooter, Tj shoots free throws well, and he’s improved his shooting, but he’s still streaky and not dependable. If TJ isn’t happy then ship him off, Calderon is a more complete player at the point and deserves the minutes/starting position

Mar.6 at 2:38 pm

Krayzie Bone says:
Calderon is 11th in the league from the field and 7th from 3. The only guys who shoot better from the field than him are those that catch alley-oops or stand under the basket. And this is after a 5 game slump. He is also first from the charity strip. Ford shoots an average 45% from the field. his 3 point shooting is subpar, but he’s not a poor shooter.

Mar.6 at 2:52 pm

TheMC5 says:
Screw Ford, Calderon FTW!

Mar.6 at 3:09 pm

Yac says:
To be fair both are very good point guards but not very good defensively.Going back to last year ,the ball movement has always been better with Calderon on the floor.I am not surprised of TJ recation ,the socalled “chemistry” was always going to be good as long as TJ was the starter.

Mar.6 at 3:16 pm

Yac says:
IMO tj suffers from A.I syndrome ,he likes the one on one game but does not posess the same skillz.There are a few point guards who came to the league who always wanted to take over the games alone instead of sharing the ball with various degrees of success.
ie:A.I ,Stephen Malburry,Steve Francis and co

Mar.6 at 3:23 pm

Krayzie Bone says:
Ford is a good player but i think Jose has emerged as better this year. The thing that ford can do that jose can’t is take over a game but the orlando gam was an example of what can happen when he forces it.

Mar.6 at 3:39 pm

Lz - Cphfinest3 says:
Don’t know if your comment was meant for me Jess, but as Krazyie point out they might have wing-players but none of them are very reliable. I said they need a scoring wing, they need a guy who can create his own shoot better than average, at the 2 or 3 position, Parker and Delfino are NOT better than average. And somebody questions whether teams would be interested in TJ, in spite of his injury history there are plenty of teams that could upgrade their point guard (of the top of my head); Miami, Clippers, OKC Sonics, Sac-town (even though Beno is playing quite nicely), Wizards (right now and depending on Gill’s status health- and contract-wise) and of course the Knicks.

Mar.6 at 3:57 pm

MD says:
the writer of the article is purely speculating…no facts are given that ford is unhappy…in fact, ford came out said in the media the other day that calderon should start, so i don’t understand why everyone is thinking there is a point guard controversy….its just another writer speculating as to what the meeting was about…when in truth he has no clue.

Mar.6 at 4:13 pm

Hairy Brown Johnsonz says:
anyone want a former national player of the year?

Mar.6 at 4:20 pm

Krayzie Bone says:
What they really lack on the wing is D. They need someone who can prevent not the Lebron’s of this world, but the Jamal Crawfords and Jason Richardson’s. Right now the Raptors have no one. And the problem is a couple of years old. There is a reason that Kobe scored 81 on us (and 60 on the mavs in 3 quarters), its the new system of D employed by Sam Mitchell called the ole set.

Mar.6 at 4:27 pm

Mike says:
Trade TJ for Vince Carter!! Think of the endless possibilties…

Mar.6 at 4:35 pm

B. Long says:
TJ is a great person and a solid pass first point guard. I’d love to see what he could do for a team like Denver.

Mar.6 at 4:37 pm

Phil B says:
Calderon to Portland. Watch it happen in the offseason! Allen’s got bucks.

Mar.6 at 4:41 pm

riggs says:
calderon to the MAGIC. superman that calderon.

Mar.6 at 4:51 pm

Scott A.E. Smith says:
Jose Calderon hands out the Gatorade at halftime, does anyone really think he’s mercenary enough to demand cash money this summer? No ego on this dude. Not going anywhere. Trade TJ this off-season for a starting 2 and bring in Roko Ukic to back up Jose next year.
Bryan Colangelo knows this.

Mar.6 at 4:52 pm

Scott A.E. Smith says:
And put Moon on the bench. Great story and all, but he needs to sit down. He’s a 9th or 10th man, at best.

Mar.6 at 4:58 pm

TheMC5 says:
Moon doesn’t need to be benched, but he certainly needs to play way less than 30 minutes a game. I’d give him 20-24 minutes per game, considering who Toronto’s other options are.

Mar.6 at 5:10 pm

sush carter says:
can the warriors trade for tj this offseason and play him at center?

Mar.6 at 6:04 pm

The Best Yet says:
i’m really shocked it took this long.
No fear Raptor fans, Colangelo will resolve this well in the off season.

Mar.6 at 6:20 pm

BranGor says:
“can the warriors trade for tj this offseason and play him at center?” Can you be any less funny?

Mar.6 at 6:26 pm

Hot Pubes says:
TJ blows

Mar.6 at 7:21 pm

Gord says:
I think MD made a great point, nobody is harder on himself than TJ. The most likely reason he looked so pissed walking off the court was because he played so badly.

Mar.6 at 7:57 pm

Ro says:
That’s one of them good problems Sam Mitchel

Mar.6 at 8:15 pm

Joey E. says:
yeah, i think TJ is a great person, but Calderon is loads better than him right now

Mar.6 at 8:23 pm

Mike says:
You people kill me, where in the hell does it say, there’s Controversy. I hate when people get the articles from RealGM (also the writer for Toronto Star that wrote this (Dave Feschuk, hates TJ, he always shows it in all his articles). This writer (Marcel Mutoni) should have done his History, what a retard. Here’s TJ quotes about playing backup and his happy, there’s nothing going on. Also from TJ brother, said there’s Family issues. That would not like to talk about. “No, it doesn’t bother me,” Ford said yesterday of the prospect of backing up Jose Calderon. “I’m satisfied with my role. Jose did a good job, he’s doing a good job as a starter, he should continue to start probably for the rest of they year.” “At the end of the day, I have been out most of the season,” said Ford, who has been the starter since last season before missing 26 games this year with neck, wrist and abdominal injuries. “And where respect is due, it’s due. [Jose] played well, he earned [the starting job], he can keep it.”

Mar.6 at 8:24 pm

cassano says:
I think the issue’s been brewing since last season when calderon’s play started getting noticed. I’ve been a TJ fan since his willowridge days but Calderon is a better pg and if I were Danny Ferry I would make Calderon my #1 priority in the offseason or try to trade for the disgruntled TJ.

Mar.6 at 8:49 pm

Ne' says:
You people that think Jose is the better PG are nuts. The difference between the PG are that TJ can do everything Jose can do and better, also in less minutes. Jose can’t do everything TJ can do.

Mar.6 at 9:17 pm

dave says:
TJ > Jose. Jose is just more popular because Toronto has biased Media. Most fans are uneducated and take everything announcers or columnists take at face value. TJ’s speed > Jose
TJ’s handles > Jose
TJ’s penetrating ability > Jose
TJ’s fast-break > Jose
TJ’s defence >>>> Jose
TJ’s passes for easy baskets > Jose
TJ = Jose pick and roll (how hard is it to run?? Jose just does it more b/c he NEEDS to) The only thing Jose does better than TJ is shoot the ball…and TJ’s pretty close when he’s healthy.

Mar.7 at 12:58 am

LAN says:
tj can b sg like monta

Mar.7 at 4:07 am

hursty says:
no lan the system is different and monta is far quicker and stronger than TJ. also hes 6-3′4.

Mar.13 at 2:11 am

Al says:
media is biased to tj in canada. bottom line is tj is a chucker. if u shoot more than ur star bosh, then u better be winning. prob is, team loses more he shoots.

Mar.13 at 2:17 am

Al says:
Tj is a whiner. Sam mitchell always says if player is hot then will leave him in. many times, he pulled jose when playing well to put in a ford that eventually shoots raps out of game. Sam must lovve his Milwaukee days with TJ together. Bucks made good move b/c backup Mo is better. Now same thing happening in Toronto.

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