28 Responses to “Allan Houston Still Talking Comeback”
Mar.3 at 12:04 pm
killa myke says:
first!
Mar.3 at 12:04 pm
killa myke says:
first!
Mar.3 at 12:06 pm
cdro says:
maybe boston will feel bad for him and sign him. him paul and ray ray could teach tony a thing or two when hes their star player in three years(cough cough Miami). oh yeah and first
Mar.3 at 12:08 pm
Blue says:
The Suns should sign him…that way Shaq has someone to talk to while the Suns are running on the break…
Mar.3 at 12:12 pm
Squirrel7 says:
Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t he say after his failed comeback attempt that the game had progressed so much, he was no longer up to it? What makes him think that being another year older will help?!
riggs says:
penny hardaway should start a intervention company, allan should be his first client.
Mar.3 at 12:38 pm
cdro says:
who knew that last season onlylebron james played more playoff games than marbury in his entire career?
Mar.3 at 12:46 pm
Russ Bengtson says:
Marc Berman’s continuing obsession with Allan Houston and Stephon Marbury is downright creepy. Move on, Marc. If you want to read a GOOD (and relevant) Knicks story, check out Frank Isola’s piece on Randolph Morris in today’s Daily News.
Mar.3 at 12:58 pm
Slim says:
Allan or Reggie?
Mar.3 at 1:04 pm
FLUXLAND says:
Russ, now THAT story is fantastic. I just read it and came over here to see if you had a reaction.
Mar.3 at 1:31 pm
Russ Bengtson says:
I agree with it entirely. There is NO good reason why Chandler and especially Morris haven’t been playing in the D-League. Thomas may be good at spotting talent, but he’s absolutely terrible at developing it. That alone should be reason to fire him. Show me ONE young player on the Knicks that has improved beyond whatever one would normally expect due to age and experience. I see regression where they should be progression. That Isola story is the best Knick story of the season, bar none. Who cares about Allan Houston? Exclusive? Yes, because NO ONE CARES.
Mar.3 at 2:00 pm
FLUXLAND says:
Ummm… OK, Russ you know I am going to slightly disagree, so here it goes: I have to agree with Thomas regarding the D-L somewhat.(Assuming there is no personal bias there.. that’s a different argument anyway) How many players have benefited from the D? In amounts that, like you say, would be beyond whatever one would normally expect due to age and experience. Matt Carroll? Not to mention potential for injuries, while you are trying to prove you “belong”. Also, I’ve made this point before, progression is only achievable when both parties are willingly involved. That, the Knick players are not. At least Thomas has come out and said he doesn’t want to leave until the situation is fixed. Unlike whiny babies that cry: “Trade me!”
Mar.3 at 2:31 pm
Russ Bengtson says:
There’s no replacement for real game experience. As for who’s benefitted from D-League time, how about Jordan Farmar? And if you believe ANYTHING Isiah Thomas says, you’re worse than he is.
Mar.3 at 2:32 pm
TADOne says:
Morris and Chandler would no doubt be better in the D-League than sitting in the Knicks poisoinous lockerroom and having Zeke ‘coaching’ them in practice.
Mar.3 at 2:38 pm
FLUXLAND says:
Jordan Farmar? Are you kidding me? That’s one dude out of how many that are in there, Russ? Stern created the D to keep players from going across the pond and then having to buyout their contracts when they develop in the EUROPEAN system. It’s not a matter of believing what Isiah says. It’s about the entire picture, and more importantly, realizing that this entire situation cannot be the fault of one person and some accountability has to be placed with the players.
Mar.3 at 2:44 pm
Russ Bengtson says:
You asked for examples, I gave you one. Do you seriously think young players are better served being around the Knicks and never playing than they would be actually PLAYING basketball somewhere? Because if you do, we have nothing to discuss. And this situation absolutely CAN be the fault of one person–the person who acquired every player on the roster and the person who’s allegedly coaching them. None of the players on the Knicks roster magically turned bad when Isiah acquired them. Each and every one of them is EXACTLY who every other GM in the NBA thought they were. Isiah’s fooled no one but himself.
Mar.3 at 2:47 pm
FLUXLAND says:
Yeah you are right.. nothing to discuss.
FLUXLAND says:
Yeah, or folks are tired of arguing with “the players are never at fault cuz they cut my check” people.
Mar.3 at 3:07 pm
Russ Bengtson says:
No, you’re totally right–Randolph Morris is much better off being under the tutelage of Eddy Curry and Zach Randolph than he would be playing games against other first- and second-year players. Why bother seeing whether he can actually play and letting him get some minutes? At least he’ll have some great stories to tell when he’s playing in Istanbul next year.
Mar.3 at 3:09 pm
Russ Bengtson says:
And please point out where I said the players were never at fault. I’m talking about one specific team and one specific situation which I’ve been rather close to for years. No one on the Knicks has any accountability–not the owner, not the GM, not the coach. Is there any wonder the players feel like they shouldn’t have any either? Successful organizations are built from the TOP. You don’t blame the employees (no matter how well paid) for the sins of the employers.
Mar.3 at 3:29 pm
FLUXLAND says:
Oh no no Sir Bengston.. your wisdom is infinite an d my brain too small to grasp your opinion.
Yes, he is much better off playing/practicing with dudes with less talent then him so he can use those D League skills in Istanbul, eventually. You are right. J. O’Neal didn’t benefit at all from riding the bench in Portland.
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All I’m saying is that it takes 2 to tango. I never said Isiah and Dolan do not share part of the blame. I am just saying it doesn’t stop there. I’ve seen those Raps - Knicks games on the 22 and 24 of Feb. and it looked to me like they are playing to get Isiah fired. You get paid gazillions to do your job. If you boss was an incompetent fool, according to you, that gives you the right to perform at a sub par level. Not in my book. Isiah and Dolan don’t get paid to play.
CoolWhip11 says:
like LL said: “Don’t call it a comeback!”
seriously….don’t
Mar.3 at 9:03 pm
real says:
the knicks need a sf scorer, quentin richardson is very streaky, houston would provide a mid range alternative scorer to crawford which is exactly what the knicks need
Mar.4 at 5:33 am
chintao says:
What can I say about Allan Houston? Much like the current group (with few exceptions), even when he wore the uniform, he was never a Knick. He lacks both mental and physical toughness. How many times did he dribble the ball off his foot as he was preparing to take the final shot of a quarter?
Jul.9 at 11:07 am
TonyEnzo says:
Allan’s last attempt to play was not cut short due to his inability. He saw the state of the current team with Marbury’s antics and previous coach’s non-coaching and wanted no parts of last years Knicks under any circumstance. I don’t give a damn if he’s 90, if he can fit in the new system and still has his stroke he needs to play and earn some of that money Dolan is STILL paying him.
28 Responses to “Allan Houston Still Talking Comeback”
Mar.3 at 12:04 pm
killa myke says:
first!
Mar.3 at 12:04 pm
killa myke says:
first!
Mar.3 at 12:06 pm
cdro says:
maybe boston will feel bad for him and sign him. him paul and ray ray could teach tony a thing or two when hes their star player in three years(cough cough Miami). oh yeah and first
Mar.3 at 12:08 pm
Blue says:
The Suns should sign him…that way Shaq has someone to talk to while the Suns are running on the break…
Mar.3 at 12:12 pm
Squirrel7 says:
Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t he say after his failed comeback attempt that the game had progressed so much, he was no longer up to it? What makes him think that being another year older will help?!
Mar.3 at 12:26 pm
TADOne says:
Please no, Allan.
Mar.3 at 12:27 pm
riggs says:
penny hardaway should start a intervention company, allan should be his first client.
Mar.3 at 12:38 pm
cdro says:
who knew that last season onlylebron james played more playoff games than marbury in his entire career?
Mar.3 at 12:46 pm
Russ Bengtson says:
Marc Berman’s continuing obsession with Allan Houston and Stephon Marbury is downright creepy. Move on, Marc. If you want to read a GOOD (and relevant) Knicks story, check out Frank Isola’s piece on Randolph Morris in today’s Daily News.
Mar.3 at 12:58 pm
Slim says:
Allan or Reggie?
Mar.3 at 1:04 pm
FLUXLAND says:
Russ, now THAT story is fantastic. I just read it and came over here to see if you had a reaction.
Mar.3 at 1:31 pm
Russ Bengtson says:
I agree with it entirely. There is NO good reason why Chandler and especially Morris haven’t been playing in the D-League. Thomas may be good at spotting talent, but he’s absolutely terrible at developing it. That alone should be reason to fire him. Show me ONE young player on the Knicks that has improved beyond whatever one would normally expect due to age and experience. I see regression where they should be progression. That Isola story is the best Knick story of the season, bar none. Who cares about Allan Houston? Exclusive? Yes, because NO ONE CARES.
Mar.3 at 2:00 pm
FLUXLAND says:
Ummm… OK, Russ you know I am going to slightly disagree, so here it goes: I have to agree with Thomas regarding the D-L somewhat.(Assuming there is no personal bias there.. that’s a different argument anyway) How many players have benefited from the D? In amounts that, like you say, would be beyond whatever one would normally expect due to age and experience. Matt Carroll? Not to mention potential for injuries, while you are trying to prove you “belong”. Also, I’ve made this point before, progression is only achievable when both parties are willingly involved. That, the Knick players are not. At least Thomas has come out and said he doesn’t want to leave until the situation is fixed. Unlike whiny babies that cry: “Trade me!”
Mar.3 at 2:31 pm
Russ Bengtson says:
There’s no replacement for real game experience. As for who’s benefitted from D-League time, how about Jordan Farmar? And if you believe ANYTHING Isiah Thomas says, you’re worse than he is.
Mar.3 at 2:32 pm
TADOne says:
Morris and Chandler would no doubt be better in the D-League than sitting in the Knicks poisoinous lockerroom and having Zeke ‘coaching’ them in practice.
Mar.3 at 2:38 pm
FLUXLAND says:
Jordan Farmar? Are you kidding me? That’s one dude out of how many that are in there, Russ? Stern created the D to keep players from going across the pond and then having to buyout their contracts when they develop in the EUROPEAN system. It’s not a matter of believing what Isiah says. It’s about the entire picture, and more importantly, realizing that this entire situation cannot be the fault of one person and some accountability has to be placed with the players.
Mar.3 at 2:44 pm
Russ Bengtson says:
You asked for examples, I gave you one. Do you seriously think young players are better served being around the Knicks and never playing than they would be actually PLAYING basketball somewhere? Because if you do, we have nothing to discuss. And this situation absolutely CAN be the fault of one person–the person who acquired every player on the roster and the person who’s allegedly coaching them. None of the players on the Knicks roster magically turned bad when Isiah acquired them. Each and every one of them is EXACTLY who every other GM in the NBA thought they were. Isiah’s fooled no one but himself.
Mar.3 at 2:47 pm
FLUXLAND says:
Yeah you are right.. nothing to discuss.
Mar.3 at 2:48 pm
TADOne says:
Russ is shutting folks down today.
Mar.3 at 2:55 pm
FLUXLAND says:
Yeah, or folks are tired of arguing with “the players are never at fault cuz they cut my check” people.
Mar.3 at 3:07 pm
Russ Bengtson says:
No, you’re totally right–Randolph Morris is much better off being under the tutelage of Eddy Curry and Zach Randolph than he would be playing games against other first- and second-year players. Why bother seeing whether he can actually play and letting him get some minutes? At least he’ll have some great stories to tell when he’s playing in Istanbul next year.
Mar.3 at 3:09 pm
Russ Bengtson says:
And please point out where I said the players were never at fault. I’m talking about one specific team and one specific situation which I’ve been rather close to for years. No one on the Knicks has any accountability–not the owner, not the GM, not the coach. Is there any wonder the players feel like they shouldn’t have any either? Successful organizations are built from the TOP. You don’t blame the employees (no matter how well paid) for the sins of the employers.
Mar.3 at 3:29 pm
FLUXLAND says:
Oh no no Sir Bengston.. your wisdom is infinite an d my brain too small to grasp your opinion. Yes, he is much better off playing/practicing with dudes with less talent then him so he can use those D League skills in Istanbul, eventually. You are right. J. O’Neal didn’t benefit at all from riding the bench in Portland.
—
All I’m saying is that it takes 2 to tango. I never said Isiah and Dolan do not share part of the blame. I am just saying it doesn’t stop there. I’ve seen those Raps - Knicks games on the 22 and 24 of Feb. and it looked to me like they are playing to get Isiah fired. You get paid gazillions to do your job. If you boss was an incompetent fool, according to you, that gives you the right to perform at a sub par level. Not in my book. Isiah and Dolan don’t get paid to play.
Mar.3 at 3:39 pm
Russ Bengtson says:
Believe what you want.
Mar.3 at 4:32 pm
CoolWhip11 says:
like LL said: “Don’t call it a comeback!” seriously….don’t
Mar.3 at 9:03 pm
real says:
the knicks need a sf scorer, quentin richardson is very streaky, houston would provide a mid range alternative scorer to crawford which is exactly what the knicks need
Mar.4 at 5:33 am
chintao says:
What can I say about Allan Houston? Much like the current group (with few exceptions), even when he wore the uniform, he was never a Knick. He lacks both mental and physical toughness. How many times did he dribble the ball off his foot as he was preparing to take the final shot of a quarter?
Jul.9 at 11:07 am
TonyEnzo says:
Allan’s last attempt to play was not cut short due to his inability. He saw the state of the current team with Marbury’s antics and previous coach’s non-coaching and wanted no parts of last years Knicks under any circumstance. I don’t give a damn if he’s 90, if he can fit in the new system and still has his stroke he needs to play and earn some of that money Dolan is STILL paying him.