Big Ben and Joakim Noah Aren’t the Best of Friends
I think it’d be fair to say that rookie Joakim Noah hasn’t exactly endeared himself to the vets on the Chicago Bulls’ roster. On Sunday, Ben Wallace and Adrian Griffin spear-headed a team vote that led to Noah being forced to sit out a second consecutive game as punishment for disrespecting an assistant coach in front of the whole team.
Last night, perhaps not surprisingly, things got testy between Joakim and Big Ben.
At halftime of the Bulls/Magic game in Orlando, as the Bulls were getting their asses handed to them, Noah and Wallace reportedly had to be separated by teammates in the locker room.
Noah walked into the room loudly complaining about Bulls players laughing on the bench, then Wallace confronted Noah, and Luol Deng had to step in and pull them apart, the witnesses said.
Good thing Luol stepped in, because if a fight broke out, I’m not so sure Joakim would’ve come out of it alive.
Whenever I think about Joakim, I picture the d-bag newcomer you occasionally have to deal with at the office. You know the type: Over-eager, obnoxious, a little too loud, and generally the kind of person you try to avoid during the lunch break. And you know what happens to those people? Usually, their contracts aren’t renewed or they get fired pretty quickly. Just saying…
227 Responses to “Big Ben and Joakim Noah Aren’t the Best of Friends”
Jan.16 at 10:05 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
billy donovan doesnt even like noah anymore.
Jan.16 at 10:06 am
white hot eboy says:
I hope Noah gets……………lost. I won’t say what I really want too. Just close it out with a typical “Told you so”. Fuc*ing prick loser.
Jan.16 at 10:06 am
TADOne says:
…
Jan.16 at 10:08 am
white hot eboy says:
Ben should have smashed to the surface.
Jan.16 at 10:08 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
wow, i cant think of the last time a rookie acted like a 12 year vet like this. ben should kill him.
Jan.16 at 10:11 am
white hot eboy says:
Oh, and when Ryan crawls out from under his covers today, THIS IS ANOTHER REASON to hate this jerkoff. Capice?
Jan.16 at 10:12 am
riggs says:
dont be surprised if he comes out playing with a bruised face.
Jan.16 at 10:12 am
whooo! says:
it’s funny cuz i don’t like noah just cuz he seems like a f’n annoying kid, just based off the way he looks and acts sometimes. but it’s embarassing that a rookie has to call out guys whoa not only are playing sh*tty, but are f’n around on the bench while gettin their asses beat. at least the guy shows some pride in wanting to win.
Jan.16 at 10:13 am
Captain America says:
In the real world, Bulls drop another, now 14-22. Oh, that’s Noah’s fault, heh
Jan.16 at 10:14 am
whooo! says:
basically, i feel it’s not a matter of he shouldn’t have said what he said about the lack of focus on the team. it’s the fact that he shouldn’t HAVE to be the one (as a rookie) to call on his older teammates to focus and take the game seriously. that’s just embarrassing.
Jan.16 at 10:16 am
Captain America says:
Ben Wallace line last night: 4 points/2 boards. Maybe fighting is his sport?
Jan.16 at 10:17 am
white hot eboy says:
Russ, please clarify this for all of us?
Jan.16 at 10:17 am
Captain America says:
Wait! Ben got 3 boards
Jan.16 at 10:19 am
Captain America says:
Noah’s line last night: 12 points/11 boards
Jan.16 at 10:21 am
t.dot dude says:
BEN COULD BEAT THE FRICKIN CRAP OUT OF HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jan.16 at 10:23 am
Tarzan Cooper says:
the bulls suck, and noah should shut his mouth.
Jan.16 at 10:24 am
Holly MacKenzie says:
It just makes me sad that Ben has gone from holding it down on defense to laughing on the bench as his team gets their asses handed to them, again.
Jan.16 at 10:28 am
Ryan Jones says:
I’m so gonna buy a Joakim Noah jersey. He’s overeager and undoubtedly annoying at times, but why do I get the feeling he wants to win more than anyone else on that roster? Watch him have a better career than Big Fraudulent Ben.
Jan.16 at 10:33 am
white hot eboy says:
Ryan, go back to sleep. Please.
Jan.16 at 10:34 am
Ryan Jones says:
Like you wouldn’t love to have Noah on your sorry-@ss team this year, eboy. My bad, forgot — you guys are trying to lose all your games.
Jan.16 at 10:37 am
white hot eboy says:
No, I wouldn’t want someone who has about the same basketball ability as you in a 6′ 10″ frame. And is that supposed to bother me, Senor Jones, or have you not realized I’ve been hearing it from EVERYONE here for the last two months? And if the Bulls are that much better than the Heat because of Noah’s scary talent, I should rewatch their games this season, huh? Dummy.
Jan.16 at 10:41 am
H to the izzo says:
hehe.The Heat pay Shaq 20mil a year.hehe
Jan.16 at 10:45 am
TADOne says:
Somewhere, Scott Skiles is laughing.
Jan.16 at 10:46 am
white hot eboy says:
Izzo, don’t start with me today, please. I know you are patientlly waiting for Ryan to get to your side of the world soon, so massaging his prostate from afar is not a good look.
Jan.16 at 10:46 am
TADOne says:
Also, I just HAVE to know what Scottie thinks about all of this.
Jan.16 at 10:49 am
Keith says:
I agree with Ryan for what it’s worth. Joakim actually cares about losing. Sure, he’s a rookie and thinks he’s better than that status but he’s showing a bit of fight. Bulls fans haven’t seen that for a long time. Take note Ben.
Jan.16 at 10:50 am
TADOne says:
Hey Eboy, the Bulls are in your neck of the woods tonight. On ESPN no less.
Jan.16 at 10:51 am
Ryan Jones says:
You hadn’t previously heard it from me, eboy, and this seemed like as good a time as any. I’m just saying, young kids who play with energy and emotion and actually overreach their talent are rare enough in this league. I’m not gonna hate one of the few who’s doing it, particularly when Hall of Famer Ben Wallace and his 6.5 ppg career average are on the other side of the argument.
Jan.16 at 10:51 am
H to the izzo says:
Yeah…anyway.At least Noah seemed like he actually wants to win something this season,unlike a washed up hasbeen like Ben Wallace putting in very little effort for the team and being grossly overpaid while doing it.And also,Wallace has less all round ability than Noah.
Jan.16 at 10:52 am
white hot eboy says:
I wish it was the 80’s and I could go in with D batteries and chuck them at his big head.
Jan.16 at 10:52 am
d.Y. says:
Word Tad. I side with Jones on this one. At least Noah gives a damn. Ben’s career has been odd to say the least. Overlooked and slept on until he got to Motown, priding himself on hustle with no offensive game whatsoever, then he became the PR face of “the best starting 5 in the NBA” because of his hair, which apparently made his ego grow in inverse proportion to his production, and now the son of a tennis player has to piss him off to motivate him.
Jan.16 at 10:52 am
H to the izzo says:
I know Noah is annoying but I’m finding it hard to see the reasoning behind siding with Ben Wallace on this one.Seniority?F*ck that
Jan.16 at 10:52 am
Lang Whitaker says:
I’m with RyJones, too. Joakim’s my main man.
Jan.16 at 10:53 am
TADOne says:
Have I expressed lately how happy I am that the Pistons decided not to match the ridiculous contract the Bulls offered Big Ben?
Jan.16 at 10:55 am
TADOne says:
I actually side with no one on this. I’m just praying that they throw down tonight on the court in front of a national TV audience.
Jan.16 at 10:58 am
white hot eboy says:
To the two Irish breathern, I’m not condoning Ben’s actions, nor do I like him either. But there is a time and a place for reactions and comments, and this is about the third incident that your moronic hero has been involved with, second in the last 3 days. Ryan, since you work and Izzo doesn’t, put yourself in the postion of making a salary. A new person comes in, doesn’t like your work style or effort, tries to undermine you in front of your peers and make’s you look like an as*hole, even if it’s not warranted. Do you sit there and take it, or do you try to make that person understand that what you do is your business and you both draw checks from the same place, so maybe you should mind your business and concentrate on your work without drawing attention to yourself? It’s not a sports analogy, but it’s making the point that there is a heirarchy in the league, and it should be followed, whether you agree with it or not.
Jan.16 at 11:01 am
white hot eboy says:
And for those of you who agree with Ryan, you must all lead a charmed life, free of criticism.
Jan.16 at 11:03 am
H to the izzo says:
I don’t like Noah.When you’re getting paid huge money to help a team with potential try and reach that potential and when that team is struggling your laughing on the bench and not trying as hard as you should(you should be trying the hardest because that’s what you do) you deserve to be confronted.Noah shouldn’t have been the person to do it.It should have come from the coach,but when you’re a player who’s trying his hardest to get a win and you see the supposed star with the biggest paycheck not giving a f*ck that would p*ss me off too.
Jan.16 at 11:06 am
white hot eboy says:
Izzo, you saw the game?
Jan.16 at 11:07 am
Ryan Jones says:
I don’t think your analogy successfully crosses the bridge, eboy. Professional basketball players make millions of dollars and go to work in front of millions of people. I’m an editor at a university alumni magazine. I wouldn’t deal well if TV cameras followed me out of the shower after work, or if people asked me questions about all the grammatical errors today I made while I’m pulling my boxers on. Very different work places, very different realities. All that said, I understand why Noah’s youthful impetuousness rubs you wrong, and I agree it’s problematic in some ways, and that he should be put in his place — to an extent. I just think he’s got enough going for him that I’m willing to overlook it, on the assumption that he’ll grow up over the next few years.
Jan.16 at 11:08 am
d.Y. says:
Eboy, screw that “stay in your cubicle” plan. If the business demonstrably sucks, take it to the famous overpaid guy who’s not pulling his weight. Maybe you get fired, maybe you get punched in the face. Those things happen. The end result will be change. Better than being stuck in mediocrity.
Jan.16 at 11:08 am
Ryan Jones says:
I think the truth we’re all avoiding here is that eboy must have dealt with a Noah-esque young colleague recently, and is still bitter about it. Please give specifics, homey.
Jan.16 at 11:08 am
Ryan Jones says:
d.Y. with the “Change” platform. You should run for president, dude.
Jan.16 at 11:10 am
H to the izzo says:
Yes,actually
Jan.16 at 11:13 am
Jared says:
I don’t know, I mean, people didn’t get mad at Rube Baker in Major League two when he went on his locker room rant, if I remember correctly the Indians rallied and went on to the World Series…maybe the Bulls should take note…
Jan.16 at 11:13 am
d.Y. says:
Funny Ryan. I was just taking out the garbage and rhyming to myself, and I said something like “National politics are stupid, go watch basketball.” Now that Will’s a scientologist, I have no hope for the executive branch.
Jan.16 at 11:14 am
BETCATS says:
when i think Joakim Noah i think overlly devolped puverical hair turned into a person
Jan.16 at 11:14 am
Jared says:
I see where both the arguments are coming from, Varejao’s twin should keep his mouth shut when it comes to drawing attention and getting at coaches, but you gotta admire his hustle and that he wants to win. If i was a bulls fan he’d prolly be my favorite player on the team besides Duhon, who’s my favorite player in the L regardless.
Jan.16 at 11:16 am
TADOne says:
Wait, Duhon is your favorite player??
Jan.16 at 11:18 am
BETCATS says:
Jared he is not that good. Sure he has desire but so does Keith Closs. I think the bulls need to rid themselves of Noah by putting him on a art with Steve Carrel and push it into the middle of the ocean. That would end everybody’s movie and basketball problems
Jan.16 at 11:18 am
white hot eboy says:
d.y., you must not understand the English language, which is fine, because I’ve always liked your arguments and comments. “Stay in the cubicle”? What are you talking about, son? I’d have knocked that gangly bi*ch out if he spoke to me anyway out of the ordinary, in a basketball setting. Ryan, I don’t have to deal with as*holes, if I don’t like them in my work enviornment, I terminate on demand. And no, there is no youngster getting my ire up, just going off basketball teams, leagues, etc. I’ve been involved with in the past and as someone who respects the history of the game, it’s should be a given that a rookie doesn’t make these type of asinine comments and actions when trying to make their spot in the NBA or any other league they are involved in. I seem to remember a certain lover of Ryan’s who didn’t criticize his teammates the first year in the league, while playing on a crappy team, when he had every right to do so. The difference…….class from that player. That’s why he is a global icon and a huge fan favorite today. Learn it, people, it’s not too difficult.
Jan.16 at 11:19 am
H to the izzo says:
BET:In that case what do they need to do with Big Ben.
Jan.16 at 11:21 am
white hot eboy says:
Izzo, explain the reasoning for the blowup then, if you would? Did it go on for the entire first half, a few minutes, one play?
Jan.16 at 11:21 am
Jared says:
damn bet that’s harsh…I’m not saying he’s a franchise player, or good even, I’m just saying I’d rather have someone on the floor who’s gonna leave it all out there and play like he wants to win for the name on the front of his jersey, than someone who’s gonna get salty because he isn’t allowed to wear a headband. And yea, Chris Duhon’s my favorite player in the L.
Jan.16 at 11:22 am
Solito says:
Noah is a loud mouth… you know what happens to loud mouths… they get washed out with soap… he’s not a bad kid, he should just keep taking the Retalin like all the other hyper active kids do.
Jan.16 at 11:22 am
BETCATS says:
Izzo they need to trade him back to detroit for McNice, Amir Johnson, Draft Picks, and maybe a filling contract so the trade could work
Jan.16 at 11:24 am
Keith says:
Keith has noted how mad White Hot Eboy appears to be getting.
Jan.16 at 11:24 am
BETCATS says:
Jared he may leave it all their but he has no integrety or self respect for the game. You dont need somebody who will yell at coachs or fight with teammates or dunk on people in a blowout just to hurt feelings (although that is acceptible) you need the oppiste
Jan.16 at 11:25 am
NBA Observer says:
This reporting is incorrect. “At halftime of the Bulls/Magic game in Orlando, as the Bulls were getting their asses handed to them” Asses were handed, but it didn’t happen until the 3rd quarter as Holly pointed out in her daily game run down. The Magic dominated the 3rd scoring 32 and giving up only 10. The 10 didn’t even come until Jim Boylan removed Ben Wallace at the 7 minute mark. “The Body” is a moot nickname. It’s irrelevant. Ben Wallace is more like “The Pyramid” because he is big, but he doesn’t move anymore. His feet are slow. His quick elevation is gone. His desire is null. He’s a crumbling wonder of the NBA world.
Jan.16 at 11:25 am
Keith says:
BETS…you think Detroit would want him back?
Jan.16 at 11:25 am
BETCATS says:
keith as long as eboy is not mad at you or me just keep quite
Jan.16 at 11:26 am
BETCATS says:
and yes keith. They need him. As Steve Kerr says on NBA Live 2006 he is the heart and centerpice of that franchies
Jan.16 at 11:26 am
d.Y. says:
Eboy, I obviously must not, because I have no idea what “Puverical” means. As for my stuff, I was speaking on your preferred action of young Joakim, rather than what I felt Ben should have done. Sorry ’bout the mix up, I thought the ensuing sentences would clarify. And in any setting, keeping your mouth shut when you feel you can help is not class, its cowardice. Speak up, either someone shuts you up, or they take your advice.
Jan.16 at 11:26 am
TADOne says:
Detroit wouldn’t touch Ben with a 10 foot pole now. Unless, of course, he was bought out.
Jan.16 at 11:26 am
k.o. says:
whoa…is this ‘the wire’ with mutoni, or ‘bitch about how miserable i am’ by eboy. quit hoggin the comments mang. clearly noah is out of line, but the kid won back to back college titles - he’s gotta be good for somethin once he’s been properly humbled by big ben
Jan.16 at 11:27 am
white hot eboy says:
BET, while your spelling is killing me right now, your sentiment is correct, which is remarkable from the youngest person posting here at the moment. And Keith are you now referring to yourself in third person. If I was mad, I’d be capitalizing my words, so really I’m ok. Thanks for the concern, though.
Jan.16 at 11:27 am
H to the izzo says:
Eboy,what is it you want me to explain?I’ll watch it again and give you the exact second it happened
Jan.16 at 11:30 am
Ryan Jones says:
That doesn’t actually rhyme, d.Y., but I like your thinking nonetheless. Speaking of which, did anyone see the Tom Cruise secret Scientologee video that Gawker put up yesterday? I’ll link to it below, which may get slamonline shut down, but it’s worth a shot. You can also find it at gawker.com. It’s pretty great. I think Tom would make a hell of an NBA coach.
Jan.16 at 11:31 am
Keith says:
Keith doesn’t refer to himself in the third person because that would be stupid. Keith isn’t stupid.
Jan.16 at 11:31 am
BETCATS says:
d.Y. says:
Eboy, I obviously must not, because I have no idea what “Puverical” ………………………was the puverical part aimed at me for saying he looks like a overly devolped clump of it?
Jan.16 at 11:32 am
BETCATS says:
ryan - isnt will smith a scientolgist now too?
Jan.16 at 11:32 am
Jared says:
I dont think it’s fair to say he has no integrity, he’s going through an adjustment period. You think teams wanted to draft joakim for his class and his respect for the game? No, they wanted someone who was gonna play his heart out and rile up the fans. That’s all he wants to do. I don’t disagree that he comes off like an as,shole, because he does, sh!t i don’t even like him, I just think he’s probably the best thing for that team right now, someone who actually cares about winning.
Jan.16 at 11:32 am
white hot eboy says:
d.y., so Lebron was a coward in his rookie season for playing on a crap team and not criticizing his teamates and coach for not giving him the enviornment he wanted? d.y., I was young once, too, and I know alot of times holding your toungue is hard, but believe me, especially in the high dollar profession these dudes play in, Noah’s hurting himself WAY more than he’s helping himself, regardless of what the other “experts” here are saying. It comes down to dollars for these guys and Noah’s dollar count will be affected negativly by his actions, not improved.
Jan.16 at 11:32 am
Keith says:
BETS, I think Big Ben was a big part of the Pistons back when they won their ring but he’s got no hustle now and that won’t cut it on ther Pistons now. Maybe going back to the Pistons would revitalise him but it’s a helluva big gamble on Detroits part.
Jan.16 at 11:35 am
BETCATS says:
Jared - if you fight with a coach you end up wavied. If you strangle a coach you end up Latrell Sprewelled. Keith - that is my point. Ben fit in perfectly and i think he would be back on track to defensive player of the year awards if he was in motown.
Jan.16 at 11:35 am
H to the izzo says:
What the hell does puverical mean?
Jan.16 at 11:36 am
white hot eboy says:
Izzo, you are way more intelligent when you work under your surname. No idiot, I don’t want the exact moment, I’m asking what caused your hero Noah to become so angered? What was the laughing about? Are you not allowed to laugh? Did a fat woman fal down the stairs in the 100 section of the arena? Did Luol Deng do a Bill Cosby impersanation? Trying to undersatnd what was the huge turning point in the blowout that caused this giant news story since I didn’t see it myself.
Jan.16 at 11:37 am
Jared says:
And if you play hard on a team where it seems everyone’s dogging it you get playing time. I’m not saying what he did was ok, I’m just saying he plays hard and wants to win…he’s not evil.
Jan.16 at 11:37 am
TADOne says:
I agree that Noah needs to know his place, but I also agree that Ben shouldn’t be joking on the bench. Honestly, they are both wrong. One is a rookie and one is an overpaid veteran who is no longer taken seriously after throwing his last 2 coaches under the bus. They both need to learn their place if you ask me.
Jan.16 at 11:38 am
Ryan Jones says:
BET, I think that’s what d.Y. said, yeah. I didn’t know that about the formerly Fresh Prince, but it’s not hard to believe.
eboy, comparing LeBron and Noah on any level is pretty absurd. Totally different players, personalities, roles, expectations.
Jan.16 at 11:39 am
BETCATS says:
he needs to learn when to shut up though. He always has had his NCAA title arogances since he steped into the L and in reality he didnt do that much in the 2nd title game. He may have a big heart but it comes with a bigger mouth
Jan.16 at 11:40 am
Jared says:
He’ll win a 6th man award somewhere else then.
Jan.16 at 11:40 am
H to the izzo says:
I’m just saying,if a player who got into foul trouble early and was destroyed by the guy he was defending was laughing on the bench while his team on which he’s supposed to be a leader of is being blown out isn’t good enough.Noah shouldn’t have been the person to do it,but I can see why he did.
Jan.16 at 11:41 am
d.Y. says:
Eboy, I agree with you on the dollar count, but as a man I’d prefer to see a kid stand up for how he feels. Lebron wasn’t a coward for that, but he sure was for refusing to sign the darfur petition.
Jan.16 at 11:43 am
BETCATS says:
dy why did you bring dafur into this? this is basketball, and somethings bigger than basketball such as genocide should not be used in an argument about basketball players
Jan.16 at 11:45 am
Jared says:
but we’re not arguing about players, we’re arguing about integrity and personality. If we were arguing about the player you guys probably wouldn’t be hating on joakim.
Jan.16 at 11:45 am
white hot eboy says:
Everyone today is pretty fu*king dense. Ryan, I do love you (no ghey, ok maybe a little) and you are one the few people I love to battle against, but you can’t see the POINT I’m trying to make in regards to Lebron as a rookie? Lebron was the franchise, from the initial tip against the Kings. He would be one of the ONLY rookies that would be understood in his criticism of his team if he went that route. He didn’t, regardless of his talent level, which shows he understood his place in the game. I think he may have even said something like “I’m a rookie, it’s not my team, we’re a team together” or something to that effect. That shows intelligence and wherewithall, none of which sits with your boy in the Bulls uniform.
Jan.16 at 11:47 am
BETCATS says:
jared we all know Noah has some potential, but he never will devolpe it if he cant keep his mouth shut and listen
Jan.16 at 11:48 am
white hot eboy says:
Jared, this is strictly basketball related, I’m sure Noah is fine off the court, but that being said, if he is that intelligent off the court, maybe he should try to carry some of that over into his workplace.
Jan.16 at 11:50 am
BETCATS says:
alright cat out
Jan.16 at 11:51 am
Ryan Jones says:
LeBron certainly gave off the image of a perfect rookie, but I think we all know it didn’t take him long to exert his influence behind the scenes (see: Silas, Paul). So did a young Earvin Johnson, my hoop hero. It’s how this sh*t works. I do understand your point, and I agree that Noah has overstepped his bounds somewhat. But as stated, I’ll accept that as part of the package from an overachiever who plays with passion, something that hasn’t applied to Ben Wallace for about 4 years.
Anyway, let’s stop arguing. I’ve got work to do, and you’re making me horny.
Also, seriously, make sure you find that Tom Cruise vid (or check the link above if it ever shows up). Fascinating stuff.
Jan.16 at 11:52 am
d.Y. says:
thanks Jared. Eboy, I guess you think pulling the company line equates with loyalty, especially when you’re the new guy. I’m more of a “dissent is patriotic” kinda cat. Actions become habits, lets not train heads to be b*tches from jump. and BETs for REAL… what does puverical mean?
Jan.16 at 11:52 am
H to the izzo says:
And there’s obviously a deeper thing going on between Noah and Wallace,would Wallace have gotten another player banned for that one game?Was it neccasary to make that public?
Jan.16 at 11:56 am
Jared says:
I’m not even defending Noah off the court, I think it was a d!ck move to talk back to coach, and it absolutely was not his place to stick it to a vet who made it as a star in the league with his hard work. Noah hasn’t proven anything, he’s nothing but a loud mouth who doesn’t know his boundaries. BUT at least he cares about the game and winning and actually doing his job. I’m just saying give the kid a break, he doesn’t know his boundaries but he wants to win, and that’s an admirable trait in a basketball player in this day and age, especially in the toxic environment he’s enduring, where it seems like more players on his team don’t care about winning than those who actually do care.
Jan.16 at 11:57 am
H to the izzo says:
And the Bulls have so many more problems than just a rookie overstepping the mark and a useless overpaid vet not liking each other.
Jan.16 at 12:00 pm
H to the izzo says:
That Tom Cruise video is ridiculous.
Jan.16 at 12:01 pm
white hot eboy says:
Ryan, I’m glad I got you turgid. And yes, I watched Tom Terric’s video last night and I was riveted. I almost think he’d be a better presidential candidate than the current crop. Dude is that convincing.
Jan.16 at 12:02 pm
white hot eboy says:
Terrific, sorry.
Jan.16 at 12:03 pm
nothin personal says:
A bit late,as always. The way I see it, Big Ben got fat, after the contract. He is tired if having to fight for every little thing, cause you’ve got to recognise that nothing was handed to him up to now. So when a young upstart, who’s coming from a winning enviromemt(and is projected to fill Ben’s shoes some day, no less) comes in and tries to shake people out of their serene sleep, big bad wolf goes out of his way “to teach the kid a lesson”. I don’t get it. It’s not like everything was working fine and the newby is ruining the team atmosphere. As for seniority, if Ben was back in Detroit, I might say you have a point. But as far as the Bulls are concerned, he hasn’t done anything but cash in his lucrative checks, and he is definitely not a leader for them. If you want some respect homey, you’ve got to earn it with your deeds. Atleast, that’s my take on this mess…
Jan.16 at 12:05 pm
H to the izzo says:
That video was terrifying even by religious nut standards.
Jan.16 at 12:07 pm
Jared says:
hate being that guy but 100
Jan.16 at 12:07 pm
dee stewart says:
man ben wallace need to leave noah alone he’s a rookie and he’s going to talk.
Jan.16 at 12:08 pm
white hot eboy says:
I’d fly in a u.f.o with him as long as the in-flight movie wasn’t Top Gun.
Jan.16 at 12:09 pm
H to the izzo says:
Or pretty much anything he’s been in except Jerry Maguire.
Jan.16 at 12:13 pm
Jared says:
I just got moderated for listing a bunch of tom cruise movies, haha, izzo, tom’s been in some good ones
Jan.16 at 12:14 pm
white hot eboy says:
Izzo, no love for The Outsiders, Risky Business, Minority Report?
Jan.16 at 12:14 pm
H to the izzo says:
Try it again,I’ll pick them apart
Jan.16 at 12:16 pm
H to the izzo says:
Risky Business maybe,but it’s been a while since I’ve seen it.
Jan.16 at 12:16 pm
white hot eboy says:
Can I play? Mission Impossible’s, War of the Worlds, The Last Samuari?
Jan.16 at 12:17 pm
white hot eboy says:
All The Right Moves
Jan.16 at 12:18 pm
Jared says:
Vanilla sky? co(ktail? Days of thunder?
Jan.16 at 12:18 pm
white hot eboy says:
Vanilla Sky was excellent if not odd.
Jan.16 at 12:18 pm
H to the izzo says:
The Last Samurai-sh*t.War of the Worlds-worse.MI-okay
Jan.16 at 12:19 pm
Jared says:
It’s one of those movies you gotta watch a few times…probably my favorite of all time.
Jan.16 at 12:19 pm
H to the izzo says:
Yes Vanilla Sky was good but in spite of Cruise I thought
Jan.16 at 12:20 pm
d.Y. says:
Outsiders was the jam, I heard Legend was aight, and Interview with a Vampire was half decent… I’m not a fan, but The Color of Money, Rain Man, Magnolia (respect the c*ck) and Vanilla Sky (Abre Los Ojos for americans) are all good flicks.
Jan.16 at 12:22 pm
white hot eboy says:
d.y., agreed on Color of Money, Rain Man, Interview was good as a stand alone, not as good as the book. Izzo, Last Samurai was sh*t, but Impossible’s get the thumbs up? Whoa.
Jan.16 at 12:23 pm
d.Y. says:
Word Izzo? I felt Vanilla Sky was one of the few joints where Toms natural charm/slime personality worked for him. The original is way deffer tho. Since we’re no longer heatedly talking about Jo and Fro, should this move over to the Post Up (aka offtopiclandia)?
Jan.16 at 12:23 pm
H to the izzo says:
Not the thumbs up,no.
Jan.16 at 12:24 pm
The Cool says:
A hard head makes a soft ass. just words of wisdom to Noah. Just because you won two championships don’t make you king kong homey. yo swagger is just a little bit overboard. Vannilla sky was weird but it was cool. play wit it.
Jan.16 at 12:24 pm
white hot eboy says:
Probably, although Holly would get confused as to why we were talking about Tom Cruise.
Jan.16 at 12:25 pm
Jared says:
haha dy…rain man was the ish and color of money was real good too.I don’t know if i can respect Tom Cruise tho after that south park episode…Tom Cruise is in the closet.
Jan.16 at 12:27 pm
TADOne says:
Color of Money was my joint. Although, Paul Newman was better in it.
Jan.16 at 12:30 pm
white hot eboy says:
I liked Forest Whitaker in Color of Money.
Jan.16 at 12:31 pm
JackBrown says:
A basic human survival rule: No physical confrontations with people Ron Artest is afraid to fight.
Jan.16 at 12:33 pm
TADOne says:
Whitaker was good in it too. That movie was good all the way around I thought.
Jan.16 at 12:33 pm
vmcb says:
Fu
Jan.16 at 12:33 pm
bxballer says:
I find it ironic that Ben was one of the dudes getting on Noah’s case for being unprofessional, but then he is on the bench laughing while his team is getting blowned out. Yeah that’s real professional Ben.
Jan.16 at 12:47 pm
RV says:
so what ben actually laughing? i didn’t read everysingle comment, but i didnt see anyone write they saw Ben laugh, the story doesn’t say it was ben, it says “veterans”, could have been anyone else
Jan.16 at 12:55 pm
RV says:
i can easily this happening : noah is in the game doing garbage time, he sees some of the bulls laughing at a certain point in the game, then after the game he tries to be a smart ass and give them a taste of their own medicine because of what they did to him, so he goes off about them laughing, Ben knowing the laughing was an osilated incident, confronts noah for trying to stir things up…
Jan.16 at 1:11 pm
The Cool says:
Noah heads is just to f#ckin big for his damn body. He is never going to be a top cailber player and he will always be a garbage time player. The bulls will drop him before his contract his up with. by the way Planet of the Apes was the best movie ever. Evolution is amazing. play wit it.
Jan.16 at 1:14 pm
Lz - Cphfinest3 says:
Jared comment on 11.56 is so true. And Eboy Noahs potential earnings should never be brought into this, for once nice to see a guy who plays hard and is not afraid of saying what he feels - even to the vets. What do y’all want sheep who goes out there and only plays hard in contract years. I’ll take Noah’s mentality over VC’s any day.
Jan.16 at 1:21 pm
white hot eboy says:
Lz, stating fact is difficult for some to adjust to.
Jan.16 at 1:28 pm
NBA Observer says:
bxballer: The Chicago broadcast of the game from Orlando flashed to the Bulls bench in the third quarter after Ben Wallace and Joe Smith were subbed out at the 7 minute mark. Not sure if the Orlando TV crew showed this. However, Ben Wallace and Joe Smith were shown on TV laughing. Not just a muted laugh either. It was head bobbing, hold your hand to your mouth, ear to ear laughing. One Chicago TV broadcast crew guy is a friend of every Bulls fan today because somebody thought they should go to camera X capturing the stand up comedy audience known as the Bulls veterans on the bench while the team is down 30.
Jan.16 at 1:29 pm
white hot eboy says:
Thanks for that NBA Observer.
Jan.16 at 1:34 pm
Lz - Cphfinest3 says:
You are right $ is for sure a fact in the L, my only point is that the players (albeit in Noahs case, he was born with a silverspoon in his as, so he’s probably accustomed to money) who actually value winning more than money - should be respected. Duncan is a good example - Big Ben the same of the opposite.. If he really really cared he would never have left motown.
Jan.16 at 1:49 pm
polowthaJon says:
Why is the only one with any fire on the Chicago bench being osterisized for his competitive drive? Ben just got lazy when he got paid! Dont hate on Noah, he just hasnt become as complacent as the rest of the hum”bulls”
Jan.16 at 1:54 pm
Lz - Cphfinest3 says:
Word
Jan.16 at 1:57 pm
Sesa says:
3 words, Noah is Gangsta. He reminded me of Allen Iverson the first time he came in the L.
Jan.16 at 1:57 pm
Craig Hodges for 3 says:
Big Ben, your defense sucks and you can’t make a layup or dunk. You get paid how much? It’s no wonder why your laughing. I can’t believe it either. You bring nothing to table. Noah and Gray are better than you. (Side note, I am from Chicago and watch all the games. So don’t laugh when I say Noah and Gray are better because it’s true).
Jan.16 at 2:05 pm
white hot eboy says:
Except AI could actually play the game.
Jan.16 at 2:06 pm
Jukai says:
Agreed with Sesa
Jan.16 at 2:08 pm
Jukai says:
White Hot Eboy hates.. whatever the hell ethnicity Joakim Noah is
Jan.16 at 2:08 pm
flitzy says:
Remember when big bum used to have that fire that noah has? Mo money mo problems
Jan.16 at 2:12 pm
Bryan says:
Joakim Noah is just a bad basketball player have we all forgotten that? The guy hustles and plays hard but he isn’t good. He is in the NBA because he is 6′11 or whatever the f he is.
Jan.16 at 2:14 pm
Bryan says:
Correction 6′11 and athletic but still athlete doesn’t equal a basketball player.
Jan.16 at 2:15 pm
white hot eboy says:
Jukai, if Noah’s ethnicity is Moron, yes, you are correct.
Jan.16 at 2:19 pm
Jukai says:
Joakim Noah is a great addition to any team. I have no idea what’s wrong with you guys. He’s the type of guy who wont try to take over with the ball but will give the team the energy and ability it needs. The Chicago Bulls are a bunch of scrubs. None of them are likable in the slightest. Deng and Gordon are greedy assholes, Hinrich is known to be stuck up, Joe Smith just looks like a douche, and don’t even get started on Big Bad (basketball player) Ben Wallace. Send Noah out of there.
Jan.16 at 2:21 pm
TADOne says:
Whoa! We are comparing Noah to Ivy?! WTF?! Noah is not gangsta. Noah is a spoiled rich kid with an inflated ego. I’ll agree he plays with passion, but that is what rookies are supposed to do. AI came from sh*t. AI speaks from being from nothing and having to fight for his. He is the complete opposite of Noah.
Jan.16 at 2:23 pm
Jukai says:
Right, Noah wouldn’t cripple the point guard on the other team, TADOne
Jan.16 at 2:24 pm
JAMS says:
Am I the only one that see’s someone caring for basketball..that he has to bitch at the players? isn’t that what a leader would do? mind you he is still a rookie, but if Ben and Luol aren’t doing their jobs? maybe someone needs to step in.
Jan.16 at 2:30 pm
Bryan says:
According your logic Jukai , I should be in the NBA. I play Hard and I curse my teamates out even though I’m the youngest, I play with passion and intensity. But you know what else I can hit a jumper I can dribble. But I’m not 6′11. That’s it just because the guy plays hard doesn’t mean he can really play.
Jan.16 at 2:31 pm
TADOne says:
Hell Shia, me too. I do all those things well, especially the cursing part. Where is my 10 day contract??
Jan.16 at 2:35 pm
Bryan says:
Don’t get me wrong I don’t think I belong in the NBA but the point is valid.
Jan.16 at 2:36 pm
Jukai says:
Bryan, the guy was a threat to score fifteen points and bring down fifteen rebounds back in his Florida day. He’s incredibly athletic too. Yeah, his shot mechanics suck, and his shot blocking is lame for a guy of his size, but he DOES know how to box out, and he’s a very underrated passer. All those other things he’s missing…? They come with practice. Mostly from working with vets on the team. Which he wont get in Chicago.
Jan.16 at 2:37 pm
Lz - Cphfinest3 says:
Forget this conversation guys - after all the Big Ben-Noah was just a struggle for the Bulls hair-supremacy..
Jan.16 at 2:37 pm
TADOne says:
Noah is the American version of Varejao.
Jan.16 at 2:39 pm
Jukai says:
And Varejao is more valuble than Big Ben and most of the other Bulls. What’s your point?
Jan.16 at 2:39 pm
white hot eboy says:
Jukai Noah, can you please quote us the current stats of your main man? Points per game, rebounds per game and assists per game? You’re quoting college figures, but guess what, he’s not in college anymore. Please handle that sir.
Jan.16 at 2:40 pm
Bryan says:
Being 6′11 and athletic help you get 15 rebounds in college and it was more like 8-10. Yeah practice but shouldn’t you be able to do those things before you get to be a professional?Fact is , the guy is just not a good player. He’s athletic and energetic and tall that’s why he gets a paycheck.
Jan.16 at 2:40 pm
Lz - Cphfinest3 says:
Noah is the same ethnicity as Loyd Daniels, half human half Sam Cassell..
Jan.16 at 2:41 pm
Jukai says:
STAT: Joakim Noah averages more points in 12 minutes than Big Ben is in 34 minutes. Dun dun dunnnn.
Jan.16 at 2:43 pm
Tommy Patron says:
Comparing Noah to LeBron doesn’t make too much sense when you take into account that Noah is a guy that came from years of success in college and now is struggling to find playing time, while LeBron had only high school experience and was a starter from the jump. Additionally, Noah was coming into a team that was in the second round of the playoffs the year before and widely picked to finish high in the East, while LeBron was joining a team that was previously and currently sucking. These seem like those two situations are not extremely comparable.
Jan.16 at 2:43 pm
TADOne says:
My point is that him and Varejao are the same type player: energy guys. They have a role. They are both role players and nothing more. Noah may have a breakout game every now and then, but his game isn’t refined enough for and kind of consistency.
Jan.16 at 2:44 pm
Jukai says:
Bryan, you’re describing Shaq, minus the energetic part. Basketball players make money FOR BEING TALL AND ATHLETIC AND ENERGETIC. Yeah, he messed up for yelling at one of the coaches who was riding him. That’s when Big Ben should go up to the kid and talk to him, explain to him the ropes. Not threaten to beat him up in a locker room. Who is more professional now?
Jan.16 at 2:45 pm
TADOne says:
Noah averaging more points then Big Ben is not a shock. Ben has never been a scorer. 90% of the NBA can score better than Ben. What’s your point?
Jan.16 at 2:45 pm
Bryan says:
Are you serious? Shaq has skills dude. Post ability, Passing ability, high basketball IQ. You gotta be sh*tting me dude.
Jan.16 at 2:46 pm
Jukai says:
Oh, I never said he was a star TADOne. His value is the same as Varejo… he’s an energy role player who will get 10 points and 5 rebounds and bring his team alive and be clutch every once in a while. I’m not expecting anything more from him. I’m just saying, being in Chicago is stunting his remote abilities tremendously.
Jan.16 at 2:46 pm
Bryan says:
And I hate Shaq but come on dude are you serious? Get mouth off Noah’s nuts please.
Jan.16 at 2:46 pm
Jukai says:
Oh get off your high horse Bryan. If Shaq had skills, at this age he’d still be dominating. Boo hoo.
Jan.16 at 2:52 pm
white hot eboy says:
Jukai, I always viewed you as a bit of a simpleton, a nice one, but one all the same, but after your Shaq comment, I just came to the realatization that you are typing your comments from a school for “special” adults.
Jan.16 at 2:52 pm
Bryan says:
14 points and 8 rebounds in 28 minutes is more than Noah could ever hope for in his life.That may be his career year if he ever actually reaches that level.
Jan.16 at 2:54 pm
Bryan says:
And if you put those numbers to scale its roughly 20 and 11 if he played the same minutes he did when he was younger.He’s older so he plays less give the dude a break.
Jan.16 at 3:02 pm
Lz - Cphfinest3 says:
Don’t fu(k with shaq cat HAD crazy game.. No he has a crazy appetite..
Jan.16 at 3:03 pm
Lz - Cphfinest3 says:
Now
Jan.16 at 3:04 pm
white hot eboy says:
No numbers for me, Jukai? I’d be embarrassed to post them, too, so I don’t blame you.
Jan.16 at 3:10 pm
Jared says:
damn, i cant believe this argument rehashed the way it did…can’t compare joakimshaq, but be more open minded, give the kid a chance to make a career. He will never dominate, but he could be a quiet guy who nears a double double like UD
Jan.16 at 3:11 pm
Jared says:
Quiet only in game of course
Jan.16 at 3:13 pm
Jared says:
And Bryan, you and everyone else in here knows that teams stopped drafting based on current skill-sets a good 8 years ago…tremendous upside are the only two words that matter in the NBA draft anymore…see brown, kwame; tzkitishvilli, nicoli, Milicic, Darko; etc…
Jan.16 at 3:14 pm
white hot eboy says:
Jared, that’s a terrible slight to a Gator that actually is worth a sh*t in the league.
Jan.16 at 3:26 pm
Jukai says:
I’ll repost it, since you have “selectively” missed it, WHE: Joakim Noah averages more points in 12 minutes than Big Ben is in 34 minutes. Dun dun dunnnn.
Jan.16 at 3:29 pm
white hot eboy says:
I saw that, do you actually have NUMBERS!!!
Jan.16 at 3:38 pm
Jared says:
Eboy, How? UD has a better skill-set, but he’ll never put up big numbers. Joakim has the size and athleticism, and hustle, that if he sees minutes he absolutely can put up near a double-double…I know you don’t like him but you really don’t think so?
Jan.16 at 3:40 pm
Jukai says:
Joakim is averaging 4.5 points per game in 12 minutes, Ben Wallace is average 4.4 points in 32 minutes. So Joakim Noah would average 12 points per game playing Ben Wallace minutes.
Jan.16 at 3:44 pm
Bryan says:
12 points in 32 minutes is less than the 14 shaq is putting up in 28.Just saying.
Jan.16 at 3:45 pm
Jared says:
For the love of Christ…Joakim is posting 4.5, and 3.4 on 45% from the field in 12.6 mpg…those numbers aren’t bad for such limited minutes.
Jan.16 at 3:45 pm
Jukai says:
Hey, I never said he was/will be anywhere near as good as Shaq. I said Shaq is mostly size and power. Not a lot of skill.
Jan.16 at 3:51 pm
white hot eboy says:
Horrible numbers from Noah, as most of his minutes come in routs.
Jan.16 at 3:51 pm
Jared says:
peace guys, have a good one
Jan.16 at 3:52 pm
Jukai says:
Actually, they HAVEN’T WHE. If you watched Heat games, most of his minutes come durin the actual game. For a while, he was part of the rotation. You know, until Big Ben.
Jan.16 at 4:04 pm
Galo says:
Didn’t read the link (don’t care) but if he was complaining about guys laughing while they are getting bitchslapped he’s f*cking right. But I’d love to see Ben go Mortal Kombat on him.
Jan.16 at 4:05 pm
Jukai says:
more than Heat games*
Jan.16 at 4:11 pm
Ryan Jones says:
I love that we’re pushing 200 on this sh*t.
Jan.16 at 4:12 pm
white hot eboy says:
Why would I want to watch two EQUALLY horrible teams, jukai. Isn’t one enough?
Jan.16 at 4:19 pm
RV says:
i dont think this was a case of noah “caring” about the game more than wallace and smith, if noah cared so much he wouldn’t constantly break team rules and insult the game and his teammates, this was just N oah trying to stick it to them for what they did to him
Jan.16 at 4:23 pm
RV says:
and him being a rookie doesn’t and shouldn’t excuse his behavior, getting outboxed, getting baited into a foul, those are rookie mistakes, being on time and showing respect to a coach are not. This guy was on a great and respected college team/program, i know for sure they didn’t allow him to do that there, so why does he think he can do it now?
Jan.16 at 4:28 pm
kelly says:
I’d just like to say Joakim says this crap neever happend..he says him,and “body”are close aka wallace…he says the media has been rough on them just leave all alone there fine.
Jan.16 at 4:28 pm
RV says:
as for wallace and smith laughing, that’s not too uncommon around the league, they may be upset about the loss, but if something funny happens, they hear something funny, or think of something funny, what’s wrong with laughing? It happends for a few seconds and then they go back to being upset, if noah hadn’t confronted them no one would have brought it up, just like many other games where it has happened
Jan.16 at 4:29 pm
Jukai says:
I’m pretty sure they were goofing around and laughing about being totally blown out, RV. If they were upset with every lost, most of them would have comitted suicide by now.
Jan.16 at 4:34 pm
Harlem_World says:
I stopped reading at about 120 in, so forgive me if this point has already been made…BUT…Ben Wallace DOES need to be called out - but it shouldn’t be Noah doing it. Loul needs to call him out. Put the nice guy persona on chill for a minute. Nice guys don’t win championships - you need that killer. Call Ben out, do whatever is necessary to get him playing hard, because he has no talent to play in the NBA at anything less than 100% every night. He’s overpaid, nothing we can do about that. All that can be done is to light a fire under his ass somehow and get him to start playing defense like he used to and rebounding at LEAST at a 11rpg clip. I can understand why Noah called him out, but it wasn’t his place to do so.
Jan.16 at 4:36 pm
Hodges for 3 says:
RV, good point. But Noah and Gray are better than Wallace (I watch every game so don’t laugh at that statement). Can we also trade Gordon? Could we even get anything for him?
Jan.16 at 4:36 pm
Harlem_World says:
RV, when you’re 14-21 and on the way to another blowout loss - AND grossly OVERPAID, you really shouldn’t be laughing at all. I don’t care if Kat Williams is reffing the game, Ben Wallace should not be laughing.*-
Jan.16 at 4:53 pm
dball says:
I dont blame Noah the bull stinks and little ben should get arrested for arm robbery cause he’s not giving the bulls nothing and in addition noah had a better game.
Jan.16 at 5:48 pm
deestarbuckz says:
I’m late again… guess I need to scroll up. This should be interesting.
Jan.16 at 5:53 pm
mutoni says:
200!
(shoot me)
Jan.16 at 6:08 pm
LAN says:
200 f*ckin comments in 5 hours f*ck im always late to the f*ckin conversation
Jan.16 at 6:10 pm
LAN says:
ben should become a wwe wrestler n noah should b happy any team actually wants him F*CK
Jan.16 at 6:44 pm
WeS says:
I said it back in June and I’ll say it again…
Worst. Pick. Ever. I was hoping EZ Yi would still be left for us… no such luck.
Jan.16 at 6:59 pm
Holy Baller says:
Hell I would have rather taken Tiago Splitter.
Jan.16 at 7:01 pm
speedy says:
Big Ben is done . And it’s really poor that a rookie has to make his job of pushing the team .
But the thing is pushing has to be done by the leader or it won’t work.
Who has this monster contract with the Bulls??
Leading by example is the keyphrase right now-Big Ben now you have to do something for your money.
Jan.16 at 8:08 pm
thebay says:
worst nba diary choice in recent memory. that kids been that d bag since college nothings new
Jan.16 at 8:14 pm
hursty says:
holy baller, the spurs took splitter with the 28th pick or whatever, hes finishing his contract overseas before the spurs pick him up,again the foreign connection, parker, ginobli, fransisco elson, duncan (kinda)
Jan.16 at 9:37 pm
RV says:
Ben shouldn’t be laughing about the loss, but if it was about something else, then what’s the big deal, its an isolated incident, its not like the wizards, where the young guys had been joking around before games too much and it pissed off the rest..
Jan.16 at 9:42 pm
RV says:
jukai, thats exactly why i dont see anything wrong with laughing at a joke here and there, yes they’re having a bad season and yes Wallace is sucking, but they can’t have their game face on 24/7 or they would all have psychological issues..
Jan.16 at 9:47 pm
RV says:
and yall have to remember we don’t have all the facts, we don’t know how things were said, we don’t know if Noah went into the locker room actually upset and heartbroken over the incident or if he went in pointing fingers and acting a fool, and let’s quit refering to the earlier Noah incident as only “yelling at a coach”, it wasn’t that simple, he completely disrespected and talked down to him, having already made a fool of himself by not knowing the plays, and the rest of the bulls punished him because that was the last straw of a string of disobedient actions, not just simple “rookie mistake”
Jan.16 at 9:56 pm
bullsfan says:
What is up with everyone saying this is noah’s fault? Ben wallace is the one to blame. He is the biggest hypocrite. After intentionally bailing on skiles like a little girl, he suddenly insists that noah be punished for “disrespecting a grown man”? He is one of the biggest wastes of money in NBA history. Jim Boylan made a suprising move to go through with the suspension. What he said was that he has no grasp on his loose players and they dont agree with him. Adrian Griffen? The last time he was a meaningful player, he is player in his junior high gym class. You have to hand it to the Bulls staff. They have become the new clippers when it comes to developing rookies. They get a ton of picks, and everyone flops. Is that just happen to be the players, or does that reflect on the program?
Jan.16 at 10:11 pm
Dominique says:
Noah was right. Ben Wallace is supposed to be the guy that wants to win the most. Why is he laughing while his team is getting a*sf*cked?
Jan.16 at 10:40 pm
kelly says:
there was NO confrotation with either wallace,or noah.they were even laughing after they were questioned on it. so big deal,people tend to throw things WAY out of proportion!,there was nothing to this period!
Jan.16 at 10:44 pm
kelly says:
Bulls kick the Miami heats booty! bulls 126-heat 96..go bulls!!!!!!!!
Jan.16 at 10:56 pm
john says:
forget the bulls noah, just build a boat and get the f@#$ out of chicago,lol
Jan.16 at 11:32 pm
Krayzie Bone says:
Somehow the bulls come out and blow away miami, when shaq has his best game of the year. Miami is really toast. I would be very surprised if they can compete next year as well, and I believe that shaq isn’t going to become any better, because he has no incentive to. The one thing about Shaq that I have noticed in his career is that as he has become richer, has has become less able to force himself to give everything he has to the game, like Mourning did, and now as his gifts decline, he really seems to be unable to muster the will to give it a last kick at the can.
Jan.17 at 1:00 am
bjoyner says:
i think he is just frustrated. He was thought he was the man at florida and no one is treating him like that in the nba. He really isn’t that good. Hint 2 of his teammates got drafted before him rightfully so
Jan.17 at 3:22 am
FerrariGTO says:
i guess some of that sheed “CTC” is rubbing off on ben now
Jan.17 at 3:35 am
Levon J. says:
Noah was a member of one the best college teams ever assembled* So we have to realize. The bulls on paper are way better than the Magic. Right now the Bulls Suck!! So u have to take into consideration that sucky feeling that u have to feel loss after loss. Aparently the Bulls do have to much fight in them for them to be on the bench laughing as they get waxed, and it was only the 1st half. Point is, the Bulls still Suck, Big Ben isnt worth his pay check, and no one can blame Noah.
Jan.17 at 9:16 am
tomy says:
but noah should accept his status as a rookie & better shut up, he´s just not the guy to critizice older teammates with more experience, deng or gordon should remind wallace and the others ( & themselves?!) to do better
Jan.17 at 12:13 pm
kelly says:
Noah has made a few mistakes..big deal,he’s apologized for them. he said it’s a learning experience,you just have to move on and learn from it,not to let it happen again. bulls did great at miami last night!!!!
Jan.17 at 3:58 pm
RV says:
it was a TEAM wide decision to sit noah, every single Bull agreed on it, its not wallace trying to blame Noah, its Noah getting what he deserved.