Vince Starter?
Agent Zero’s move into the starting line-up comes at the expense of Vince.
By now you’ve probably heard that the All-Star starters have been announced. Running them down:
EAST
Dwyane Wade
Gilbert Arenas
LeBron James
Chris Bosh
Shaquille O’Neal
WEST
Kobe Bryant
Tracy McGrady
Kevin Garnett
Tim Duncan
Yao Ming
Honestly, I’m pretty surprised Gilbert made it as a starter. I knew his popularity was growing, but I thought it was still underground in many ways. He’s surely the only All-Star to have been shirtless on the cover of SLAM months before with a huge tiger tattoo on his chest.
For the first time in a while, there’s no Vince Carter as a starter. Vince has always had such overwhelming popularity, which I never really understood, considering that he usually looks so sour when he’s on the floor.
Actually, I sort of understand his popularity, because the way he played his first few years in the NBA was so exciting. But as an NBA insider noted to me last week: “Vince has never really improved from his rookie year on.” And I knew exactly what he meant.
Vince came in so reliant on dunks and high-flying action, but once his body turned brittle and that threat in his game was removed, Vince didn’t have anything else to rely on. He can fire up jumpers with the best of them, but his shooting percentage is a thoroughly average 45 percent. When the clock fires down, all he can do is shoot fadeaway jumpers. At the Nets/Knicks game last week, twice I watched as the Nets ran last-second inbounds plays for Vince that consisted of throwing the ball to Vince, everyone getting out of the way, and then Vince settling for a long fadeaway jumper.
An All-Star player takes it to the basket, creates contact, makes something happen. Vince is no longer an All-Star.
(Luckily the Nets are only paying him $15 million to shoot jumpers. Vince has a player option for $16 million next season, meaning he could opt out this summer and go elsewhere. But if he thinks he’s getting more than $16 anywhere else, to borrow a line from Sussman’s blog, he must be nets.)
Also, for you SLAM readers with short memories, this means SLAM has had 8 of the 10 starting All-Stars on our cover in the last year, and 9 of 10 if you count the D-Wade/Shaq cover before last season started. The only one left is Yao, and if he wasn’t on the chilling list right now we’d be all over him.








118 Responses to “Vince Starter?”
Jan.26 at 1:04 pm
Sam Rubenstein says:
Vince quits on games when things aren’t going well.
Gilbert Arenas said he would score 84 points against Duke.
Jan.26 at 1:10 pm
Paul says:
This just shows that fan-voting should not be the be all to end all when it comes to determining the starters. Don’t get me wrong, Tracy and Shaq are great players, and Shaq is a future Hall-of-Famer. But he’s played in like 3 games this season. It’s just a huge popularity contest. How does the 2-time MVP, who is having a career year, not get into the starting lineup? How does Dirk not get into the starting lineup? “Fans” just shouldn’t have all the say when it comes to starters.
Jan.26 at 1:11 pm
jbn74sb says:
What’s funny about the All Star selectionsis that Shaq is starting, despite playing about 10 games and not even being the best center on his team, and that nobody from the Mavs or Suns (clearly the 2 best regular season teams in the league) is starting. No Dirk, Nash, Howard, Marion, or Amare. I’d like to see the NBA release the average of the US voters…
Jan.26 at 1:12 pm
jbn74sb says:
Should be “average age of the US voters.”
Jan.26 at 1:17 pm
Lang Whitaker says:
I bet Amare ends up starting. D’Antoni gets to pick the replacement starter for Yao.
Jan.26 at 1:49 pm
Paps77 says:
Way to go Bosh. Well deserved. I hope this motivates Vince to step his game up. Probally the greatest underachiver in the game of basketball.
Jan.26 at 1:49 pm
Khalid Salaam says:
I’m really surprised that Nash wasn’t voted a starter.
Jan.26 at 1:54 pm
mutoni says:
fans don’t care about white people, khalid.
Jan.26 at 1:58 pm
J R says:
there should be a certain amount of games you have to play to be eligible for voting. cause as great as shaq is, its a joke that hes even in the game. and gilbert is way more deserving of a starting spot then vince. i bet eddie jordan’s not that happy tho. it would have been more fuel for the hibachi fire if he would have gotten snubbed agian.
Jan.26 at 1:59 pm
jbn74sb says:
“fans don’t care about white people, khalid.”
or canadiens.
Jan.26 at 2:00 pm
Chris says:
1. Steve Nash and Amare should be starters instead of T-Mac and Yao.
2. Dwight Howard has easily been the best center in the east and should be starting over shaq
3. “…but once his body turned brittle and that threat in his game was removed”
the thing about vince is that he’s so averse to contact that you assume he doesn’t have IT anymore. But watching him play he still has unbelievable atheticism, what is he almost 30, i honestly think that he still could win the dunk contest. He’s still easily one of the highest flyers in the league. If he had worked on his game at all, if he had HALF of kobe’s drive and dedication to improve he’d have an all-star starter spot on lock for the next several years.
Jan.26 at 2:05 pm
next says:
duncan’s last cover was after the nba championship. you’ve gone a season and a half w/out em, so not quite “last year”
Jan.26 at 2:05 pm
akimana says:
Dirk is def. gonna start. Plus I dont get the complaining about fan voting, the all-star game is for the fans. Nash and Dirk can get first-team votes.
Jan.26 at 2:06 pm
next says:
oh, and didn’t you guys link to a story on arenas filling out his own ballots? am i the only one who thinks he helped vote himself in?
Jan.26 at 2:12 pm
Mike says:
VC was robbed!! Somehow Arenas got almost double the votes in the last 2 weeks than he did in the first 3 months of the season. Somehow I think the NBA had a little something to do with this.
Jan.26 at 2:34 pm
Reggie Evans says:
Steve Nash will win the skills contest.
Jan.26 at 2:43 pm
Khalid Salaam says:
Don’t front, Gil deserves his spot over VC. and i agree, he is still athletic as anyone in the L. He just doesn’t have the drive to win all the time but more than half the teams in the L would still like to have him.
Jan.26 at 2:45 pm
Julian says:
45 percent is thorougly average? i always thought that was very decent for a guard. vince carter gets gratuitious criticism. he may be moderately erratic and a bit underachieving, but this is a guy who, when he’s locked in, can control or dictate the outcome of any game-regardless of who the opposing team is. i mean, vince is averaging 25 points a his inclusigame, and if you look at his career stats, he’s been a consistently superb scorer ever since he came out of UNC. he can be just as prolific a scorer as kobe and arenas, and he’s also a severly underrated passer. sure, if he had kobe’s work ethic he’d probably have an even better career going for him, but i dont think its right to completely dismiss him as mediocre.
i’m getting fed up with all this josh howard talk. how does being on a good team figure in to your worth as an all-star? the event is made to honor individual accolades; the reward for teamwork and winning is a berth in the playoffs, not inclusion in the all-star game. josh howard is a great forward, and i’m sure he’ll get even better, but considering the depth of talent at forward in the west he is simply not a justifiable pick this year. i wouldn’t even put him before ray allen and elton brand, two guys who probably won’t even get in this season. and coaches are talking about putting him in over melo? you can’t be serious.
Jan.26 at 2:46 pm
Julian says:
*vince is averaging 25 points a game
Jan.26 at 2:53 pm
Darksaber says:
Much as i love KG, Cookie ahead of DIRK is just plain robbery. Armed or any other variation of the crime. Dumbass voters
Jan.26 at 2:59 pm
J says:
Julian you’re not from Toronto are you?
Jan.26 at 3:27 pm
Maha10k says:
Nash isn’t starting because T-Mac is listed as a guard instead of a forward like last year. China holds it down for T-Mac, he was #1 in jersey sales there. I think D’Antoni is gonna start Dirk rather than Nash or Stoudemire. Glad Gilbert was voted in over VC. Occasionally fans get it right.
Jan.26 at 3:35 pm
William says:
To be exact, Gil has really been attracting attentions these past 2 weeks.
Now that Vince is not a starter, would the coaches vote him in ?
With Redd, Pierce injured, he might have a sound chance of getting in.
Jan.26 at 3:38 pm
JAMS says:
you’re saying when Vince is on his game, he is “on” his game! What everyone is saying though is Vince is a quitter. Stop talking about 25 pts per etc. IF Vince wanted to be one of the best he would show it. IF things remotely start to go sour during the game, Wince folds, and let’s his team down. He still can do the things he wanted too since rookie season, he just chooses not too. Look at the pictures from 1999 till now. His body has changed, less muscle more fat, less defined more flubber. What I just wrote doesn’t make too much sence. Just like Vince’s attitude and game. P.S. I’m from London, Ontario. I’m still a fan and like when Vince does well, but christ, he maybe does it once a month.
Jan.26 at 3:39 pm
Mike says:
No, if they vote any one in off the Nets it’ll be J-Kidd. VC just cant seem to please anyone these days. Watch in the playoffs though, he is gonna go off.
Jan.26 at 3:40 pm
Mike says:
You didnt just call Vince Carter fat did you??
Jan.26 at 3:43 pm
thesubwayconnection says:
Yeah, William is right, Gil has been attracting attention. He’s had some huge shots and games of late, and I think that’s played into his whole getting in.
Jan.26 at 3:43 pm
JAMS says:
did and did..he weighs more and i bet its more body fat % then muscle
Jan.26 at 3:44 pm
DD says:
Gotta agree with Khalid, Lang. Vince may not play like an all-star, but his numbers are always there. Plus he shoots more free throws than guys like Billups or Nash, so he must be drawing some contact…or plenty of hand checks.
Jan.26 at 3:45 pm
Boing Dynasty says:
Whats with thses Washington Wizard’s guards, always taking Vinny’s starting spot.
Jan.26 at 3:53 pm
Wizfan says:
Yeah gil
Jan.26 at 3:56 pm
Lang Whitaker says:
I mentioned this in The Links, but what if D’Antoni takes Amare instead of Dirk? Think that won’t be motivation? Or if he takes dirk, will Amare take it personally? http://slamonline.com/online/2007/01/the-links-ron-ron-is-free-stephen-jackson-not-so-much-dirk-vs-amare/
Jan.26 at 4:00 pm
Sparker says:
i remember watching vince a lot in his early days with to, and one thing always struck me about him. when you watched him talking to other big name players, he just seemed really into being part of that very exclusive club… and it gave me the feeling that status (as opposed to winning champioships) was what really motivated him. no doubt shaq, kobe or even mj enjoys/ed that part of their fame too, but never ever have i had the impression that this was their chief source of inspiration. by the way, vince singlehandedly almost took out the ai-led sixers the year the went all the way to the final, but during that run charles oakley very publicly called him out for being too soft and kept on his case even when vince stopped like it. the next year, oakley was gone… and vince has never really been as hungry again
Jan.26 at 4:23 pm
Julian says:
no, im not from toronto. its funny, everytime i see a nets game vince plays well. he usually mixes up his long shots with drives to the basket and he’s a deft passer. i’ve seen him make big plays down the stretch (although he did miss two free throws late in the 4th last night). i think its trendy to hate on vince…there’s a backlash to his early meteoric success. the bottom line is he’s among the more elite players in the NBA. but because vince isn’t kobe he’s cast down with the likes of tim thomas. maybe he should be more, but as he is he’s very very good. do yall think people should be voted into the all-star game because of good play on a stellar team when there are better players on worse teams? (read: should howard make the ASG?)
Jan.26 at 5:01 pm
funny says:
Do you guys even watch Vince Carter play? And Lang, what kind of dumbass Inside do you know. Vince improved on his rookie year in his second year, and on his second year on his 3rd year. He had no jumper in his rookie year (except a mid-range one that was ok), and all he did was drive. That insider should get fired.
Jan.26 at 5:02 pm
funny says:
**i meant “What kind of dumbass Insider do you know?
Jan.26 at 5:13 pm
J says:
Well those of us in Canada watched as Vince basically sat out with injuries for 2 seasons and when he did play it was halfassed, and then when he went to the Nets he admitted he wasn’t always trying when he was with Toronto. Nobody said he has to BE Kobe just have some drive and desire LIKE Kobe which he apparently doesn’t have much of. We watched as he dragged the whole franchise down and then demanded a trade because the team was doing poorly, somewhat like the Pau thing now. Granted the front office worked the whole thing wrong but if you’re the franchise player you can’t just quit on your team and then want out.
Jan.26 at 5:20 pm
Boing Dynasty says:
The best part about the Vince situation, was when he told the media he was disappointed that they drafted Bosh instead of dealing the pick for a vet.
Jan.26 at 5:24 pm
Brian says:
If the league is going to fix playoff games as people say couldn’t they manipulate this voting to get the egregiously omitted starters corrected?
Jan.26 at 5:30 pm
J G says:
I agree with Juilian. Vince gets way too much critisim. Also the Vince is fat comment is absurd. Vince has improved in his all around game since his rookie year and is a much more creative scorer. I do agree that Vince does not have the “kill ur self” attitude like a kobe or mj. But thats what makes them Kobe and MJ. Tmac has a similar attitude as Vince, and there are many stars with similiar attitudes to the game. Gilbert definently deserved the allstar spot over Vince. But I believe that the reason should be Gilbert’s brillance rather than Vince’s incapabilities.
Jan.26 at 5:30 pm
IllyPhilly6 says:
There are some aspects to this debate that are very true. Vince, when he wants to be can be a top 10 player. However he does have the aversion to “mailing it in”. Trust me I’ve followed the raptors religiously since 2000. he had an influx of facial expressions and more often than not it was that stressed out, bored “myteamisgoingtolosewhogivesashit’look. And the Clippers-Nets game last night exemplified Carter’s game. First half he’s been a jump-shooter. And late in the game he showed despite a hoppled ankle, that he could still take it to the basket. Is Carter an All-Star player? In my book, no not anymore. Is he an All-Star talent? yes. I was amazed, not by his dunks, but everything, the total package he once had. I saw this one game where he dropped 43 points on literally one knee against the rockets in 02′.
The reason Vince thinks ‘dunking is overrated” is because the media has labelled him that. Slam, SI, the Toronto media has forced Vince to focus on being an all around great talent, like the Jordans, and Bryants. But VC has gotta realize that taking it to the basket and cramming it on guys like Zo, and Deke is what really made him great in the first place.
Jan.26 at 5:33 pm
Ryu says:
Come on. It’s about All-Star game. All-star game is about FANS. It’s just a circus. It has nothing to do with ‘who are the best players in the L’. The best players are in the playoff and in the national teams, not is the all-star games. They are just the most popular, which is not the same as ‘best’.
Jan.26 at 5:45 pm
Sparker says:
“best players are on the national teams”? that’s what got arenas so upset in the 1st place
Jan.26 at 5:52 pm
Chris says:
the issue with vince is not how good he is (he’s definately still pretty good), it’s how good he should be. Take last nights game for example, first half, he looked disintered, took a bunch of bad shots, etc. in the fourth quarter when he decided to play, he was damn near unstoppable. Now imagine how good he’d be if he hit the weight room, and worked on his game. That’s why he’s so frustrating. He’s a guy that can average 25 ppg by JUST showing up, imagine if he was hungry. I’m not saying he’s a bad player, I’m just saying he’s wasting SO much talent.
Jan.26 at 6:28 pm
dadi says:
VC not an allstar player!!?!?!?!?!are u kiddin me!?!? this guy is averaging 25/6/4.5,,,,,what the hell is wrong with you @LANG why are such incompetent people like you allowed to write such BS!! VC hasnt improved since his rookie year!?!? MAN WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!! VC improved his jumer
VC improved his three
VC improves his passing
VC improved his rebounding
VC improved his court vision so do me a favour……….call your insider and as him if it is Vince´s wife……. man you really should quit on your job cause you are as incompetent as a journalist can be
Jan.26 at 6:37 pm
Qi X says:
I agree with Juilian too. I am from Toronto. I have been watching VC’s games since he have played for Raps and Njnets.
Jan.26 at 6:40 pm
DBLIZZY! says:
I have to support Vince as well. People always take about the “what ifs” Why don’t we just appreciate the player that Vince is instead of finding fault with his game. You know how many players would be great if they had MJ and Kobe’s drive? To say he hasn’t improved is ridiculous. he’s extended his range way beyond the 3 point line and like someone else said, he’s a way better passer than he was a a rookie.
And I don’t know how you could look at that dunk Vince had on Nocioni a few weeks ago and say he’s lost his athleticism. It’s like KG. If he had MJ’s killer instinct, imagine that! He could definitely work on going to the basket more and getting fouled and taking control at the end of games. But I’ve just come to terms with the fact that thats just not his game. Does that make him a washed up scrub? I think not.
Jan.26 at 6:41 pm
Darksaber says:
Lang, if D’Antoni favours Amare as the STARTING Center for this ASG, well that would be a travesty. Even Cambyman is having an awesome season, yeah microfracture comeback is nice and all, but DIRK is the starter, not KG. He shouldn’t even be in the situation of being called up to fill the chinese spot. dumb stuff this allstar voting, why doesn’t stern impose his will for the whole roster and get it over with. Whaddya say, Darth Stern?
Jan.26 at 6:44 pm
Julian says:
i agree with JG and with Chris. i just dont like when people exaggerate vince’s indifference to the point where its unanimous that he’s a bad player. he’s a great player that could be a lot better…but let’s not get carried away. and lang, is there any inside scoop on what players coaches are leaning towards picking for the all-star reserves? is j. howard really gonna make it???
Jan.26 at 7:41 pm
Keshia says:
its such a shame cuz vince carter probably has the most talent athletically than any other player in the league, IMO. i dont think we’ve ever seen him at 100%, even when he had 50-point games he would just get lazy because he thought his job was finished. ever since VC left toronto his all-star votes have dropped like crazy..thats what he gets for leaving the t-dot, lol.
Jan.26 at 7:42 pm
David says:
I’m 100% support Vince. He is one the player that makes people love to watch basketball. This two years he got too much critisim from the media and too much nor-call from the official. He plays like a superstar with 4 rookies in his team, a player 7′0 can’t shoot the ball, 40 years old Cliff, all the bad player surrounding him, injuries and his stat is 5.7 rebound, 4.4 assist and shot over 45% and average 25 points, better than any of the shooting guards in the East. Especially he plays without a superstar in his team, like Shaq with Kobe, MJ with Scottie.
Jan.26 at 7:50 pm
Mike says:
Honestly though, whats an all-star game without a couple VC highlights?
Jan.26 at 7:57 pm
funny says:
You guys serious overexxagerate Vince being “soft”. Half you guys are bitter Raptors fans and the rest are either people who haven’t seen Vince play regularly or just follow the trendy pick. It’s like picking Roy “unanimously” as ROTY or putting Morrison ahead of Andrea in the rookie race. It shows you’re just a trend-follower and a dumbass.
Jan.26 at 8:37 pm
Dutch Rich says:
Vince is either playing hurt or he doesn’t care much about playing in Jersey. This theoretically is a contract year for him I believe.
His lack of killer on offense still gets him 25ppg as so many of you have pointed out, but that same lack shows on defense where it really hurts the team. His whimsical way of playing has given us the most unique and memorable highlights of all time, but I seriously do not trust him in the clutch anymore. Vince Carter is no longer the man.
Jan.26 at 8:40 pm
vincefun says:
Man fuck all of you Vince haters. You dont know anything about him. I watch him every sibgle night. He had nothing to playe for in Toronto I mean he played his heart out and what did the the GMs do get him no talent. Vince was crazy last year and drove a whole lot. This year hes been emoti9only troubled. I mean there are like a million chemistry issues and he has to deal with a divorce. He started hearing all this talk and in Golden State and LA he drove like every time. The game has changed thats why he doesnt dunk ig he tries his high flying tecnique thatres like a seven footer on every team to reject him and the refs will call him for a charge. Vince is just having a tough time but I know within the next few games he will pull it all together. Its not Vinces fault Torontos gms suck at drafting and signing players its theirs.
Jan.26 at 8:47 pm
vincefan says:
Man Vince is not fat. Arenaas should get the starting job. Vince was so robbed. Vince does not fake injuries. Boing Dynasty is a sad old man who cant get over his team sucking worse than his GPA.
Jan.26 at 10:30 pm
vincefan says:
You raptors fans are so gay. Vince gave you so much for 3 years and what did you give him nothing. The Raptors drafted poorly every year and signed the crappiest players. The only good move they made in that strech was drafting Bosh oh wait they could have had Wade. Its not Vinces fault he is going through so many emotional things. You cannot talk about a guy being soft unless you se him every night and I do. Latlely hes been shuting you haters up by drivivng a lot more like at GSW and Kings. Vince can be trusted in the clutch who scored that game winning three in Toronto who.
Jan.26 at 10:48 pm
Russ Bengtson says:
Vince picks his spots when he plays, and I don’t think he picks enough of them. He also excels at the Stephon Marbury patented “look at me, I’m trying but nobody loves me” sulk. Usually while the game’s still going on around him.
Jan.27 at 6:13 am
James says:
Vince is quite simply akin to Shareef Abdur-Rahim, good player, good stats, but not a franchise player. Just a big hole to throw money in and think somethings going to happen. a bit like all the knicks players in that regard….
Jan.27 at 7:15 am
Pablo says:
Maybe a vote for Arenas was more like a vote against Carter to start in the all star game? Anyway I still can’t believe Arenas received way so many more votes than Carter did in the last couple of weeks of voting… Very weird… maybe NBA “David Stern” had something to do with it? The fix was in?
Jan.27 at 1:14 pm
Mike says:
Somebody may have covered this already, but the question must be asked. Why in the world does the NBA still allow the fans to vote for the starters? Shaq should not be an all-star starter. Shaq should not even be an all-star based on the fact that he’s barely played this season, his personal numbers are poor (injury-reduced, I know), and his team is in the proverbial crapper (because of Shaq’s injury, I know). At some point, we have to realize that most fans are retarded and vote for players based on reputation and have no idea how the player is currently performing. We saw it in the mid 90’s when Zo and Grant Hill were dominating the voting, but weren’t even playing. If the fans aren’t smart enough to realize that Dwight Howard should be the starting center, then they shouldn’t be allowed to have the vote. Sort of like all the people who re-elected Bush shouldn’t be allowed to vote in elections again. Voting Bush in the first time was a mistake, re-election was an eff up. I’m not saying Shaq is the NBA equivalent of George Bush, but my points are similar. The general public is just flat out too stupid to be trusted to make decisions.
But then again, I chose to be a Knicks fan. How smart am I?
Jan.27 at 1:19 pm
Chris says:
I agree with James, Vince should become a knick and wither away with the rest of them.
Jan.27 at 1:25 pm
Andrew says:
About time Hibachi gets the respect he deserves. Vince hasn’t been an All-Star for a year or two in my opinion. And what’s the deal with Dwight Howard not starting? Shaq has only played a few games this season. hell, I’d even put Curry over Shaq at this point.
Jan.27 at 2:47 pm
Gilbert0 says:
Gil is awesome, he he can shoot he can pass, steal and do everything, he was so underated last year, being cut from the Olympic team, not stearting in the all star game this year he is gettin the respect deserves
Jan.27 at 3:42 pm
vincefan says:
I agree Gilbert is the starter. What do you mean Vince isnt a franchise player. I think you can say whatever you want but if you can average 25 points a game and average close to 50% you are a starter and a franchis player. The reason Vince doesnt step up is cause he has so much talent to share with Kristic Kidd Kristic RJ. Vince has been driving latley so much. He is not a wastew of money he is worht every penny 25 points 5 assists 5 rebounds good enough for me. Also the all star game is about who the fans wanna see who is the most excitioin gto watch. Its not based on purely talent.
Jan.27 at 4:30 pm
k.o. says:
It’s impossible for Arenas to go unnoticed from now on…as much for his collection of buzzer beaters (16 this season i think i heard!?), as for those gawd-awful uniforms that may very well be visible from space…
Jan.27 at 4:46 pm
chocolate thunder says:
people need to understand that the all-star game starters are not the best players of they year, its the most popular players of the year. like shaq over howard(wtf) everybody in their right mind knows shaq nots even the best center in his team (ZO!!!!). if it was for the best players of the year it would be like this: C-Dwight Howard
F-Jermaine O’Neal
F-Lebron James
G-Gilbert Arenas
G-Dwayne Wade C-Yao Ming
F-Carmelo
F-Nowitzki
G-Kobe
G-Nash
Jan.27 at 5:08 pm
KG fanatic says:
Vince, Gilbert, & T-mac are all the same over-hyped scorers so they can swap places every year. The only reason Gilbert makes it is because he is the 2007 T-mac.
My boy KG didn’t make the starting squad last year…but I didn’t cry. He made the team.
Shaq is the only center in the east so he should start…who else you going to have start? Dwight Howard…he is not a true center.
Nash has robbed people out of the MVP trophy so why should he care and his team is stacked. I know Amare & Marion are pissed because they give steve all the credit for the suns success of winning only during the season. Suns please win something! Dirk I like his game but he let 1 old legends and a similac new born great player take his championship. All I have to say is it’s all fun and for the fans…..so don’t be upset because your popular player didn’t make it. Everyone gets hosed sometime. Go T-Wolves and fire McHale he sucks.
Jan.27 at 5:11 pm
thasam says:
One thing that hasn’t been spoken about as much is the fact that Tim Duncan got the starting nod over Dirk Novitzki. What I think is really interesting about this is that you always hear announcers and analysts bitch and compain about how “underapprectiated” Duncan is by the fans. I was watching a Spurs-Nuggets game on ESPN last month and their three anouncers for the game (Mike Tirico, Tom Tolbert, and Bill Walton) compained about Duncan’s jersey sales being ranked at #15, and Tirico wondering aloud why is it so low, and Tolbert’s answer was “Because he’s too normal” (that’s a direct quote). And yet the fans decided that Duncan, who’s having a solid year, but clearly not amongst his best years, was more worthy to start over Novitzki, a legitimate MVP candidate AND Melo, who just so happens to lead the league in scoring. So I don’t want to hear anymore bitching from annoucers that the fans don’t appreciate how goo Duncan is. And by the way, do you think those compaints about Duncan’s supposed lack of popularity are aimed at the fans who read Slam, and black/”urban” fans in general? Do you think those anylysts think that the Slam-reading fans don’t know anything about true basketball skill and all we’re about is the flashy stuff?
Jan.27 at 6:05 pm
Chief says:
Gilbert deserved his spot. Vince needs to do something to alleviate the situation in New Jersey to get on the line.
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Jan.27 at 9:58 pm
Lerone says:
Vince hasn’t been an allstar for a year or two? Are some of you really this dumb, or are you just all canadian? How has vince been anything less than an allstar since he’s been in NJ? He may not deserve to be a starter this year, Gilbert’s been the best guard in the east, but if you don’t consider him an allstar at all you need to watch another sport, cause you clearly don’t get basketball. This article’s a joke, Lang’s just taking the easy route for a sports journalist by kicking the man while he’s down. The nets are struggling due to various injuries to key players and distractions from off-court issues and idiots (mainly raptor fans) are using that as an excuse to spout their whiny, b*tchhlike “I hate vince” BS. If you feel vince could be more than what he is, that’s fine, but don’t try and make him out to be anything less than what he is, and that’s an allstar caliber player
Jan.27 at 10:00 pm
Andrew says:
Couldn’t have said it better myself, thasam.
Jan.27 at 10:00 pm
baller says:
that was a pretty good decision.it could of went any way i guess.
Jan.28 at 12:25 am
Phila says:
arenas and bosh werent really on the cover. you did do a story on em but they werent front page. you showed a little tiny picture of what the cover would have looked like had they been on it. so, no. only 6 of the ten have graced the cover. get your story straight homie.
Jan.28 at 12:45 am
Chris Ordonez says:
I think that Ben Wallace should have started instead of Shaq. Shaq hasn’t even played thewhole season. What about Gilbert Arenas, this kid is ballin right now. The best right now.
Jan.28 at 2:17 am
Julian says:
40 points, 20 in the last quarter against denver tonight…people dont talk about vince when he has games like that
Jan.28 at 1:52 pm
watch nba games online 4 free(click here) says:
shaq bein a starter iz a nba tradition
Jan.28 at 2:16 pm
Deuce21 says:
I got an Gilbert SLAM (CP3 on the other) and a Bosh Cover too (Flipped with Vince) 8/10 for tha cr3w!
Jan.28 at 3:09 pm
Brad says:
“He just dominated us” Iverson said, “Dominated us throughout the game. Kept the pressure on us. He got fouled, went to the free throw line and made them when he had to. He just played well.”
Jan.28 at 3:18 pm
Mike says:
Ya whos talking now?? 40,7,6 and a sick 360
Jan.28 at 4:52 pm
bryan says:
Listen up! Arenas deserved the spot over vince.. I am a big VC fan but the nets are in a mess right now. By way arenas bought his way through this, he was firing shots and having big games..yes..but..remember these things come naturally to allstars…arenas just forced things and got motivation from his cut from the usa team….lets wait n see if arenas can keep it rolling down the line. But i’ll give arenas credit..he worked hard on his game. What is the defination of an allstar? An allstar is one who stands out as unique from the others. such one plays at an elevated level which is recognised by the fans and respected by his peers. his status can be further enhanced by heroic brilliance and team success. so far this year, shaq, t-mac, J-o, VC are just a few examples of stars who have not played aat an allstar level.. May i just say this..the eastern conference stinks
Jan.28 at 5:47 pm
Pais says:
a lot of interesting opinions regarding Vince, but if your going to have a game where the main focus is ENTERTAINMENT, you gotta have Vince, it’s really that simple…I’ve never seen anyone consistantly rape the rim in such a mindblowing manner.
Jan.28 at 5:48 pm
Boing Dynasty says:
“Boing Dynasty is a sad old man who cant get over his team sucking worse than his GPA.” - vincefan, Iam disappointed in your brain.
Jan.28 at 6:05 pm
thesubwayconnection says:
“It’s impossible for Arenas to go unnoticed from now on…as much for his collection of buzzer beaters (16 this season i think i heard!?), as for those gawd-awful uniforms that may very well be visible from space…” could someone confirm the number of game winners he’s got this year? i couldn’t find it on the internet anywhere.
Jan.28 at 6:45 pm
joe says:
First of all, however called Vince fat is like saying canadians have a right to state their opinions here, second of all everyone has to stop criticizing VC, you shouldn’t compare him to others that have achived more (T-MAC=his own cousin! Thats cold!). Yes we’ve all seen that he’s capable of so much more. He said he wants to be known as a more of all around player not just his high flying acrobatic stuff. Personally I think if you’re given that kind of talent ,please, share it with us! i agree his work ethic isn’t amazingly admirable but give the guy some credit- hes in New Jersey- fix the team up and expect more from the rest of them before you go apeshit on Vince
there is also no way the coaches won’t but him on the all star team- seven year and running!
Jan.28 at 6:45 pm
joe says:
First of all, however called Vince fat is like saying canadians have a right to state their opinions here, second of all everyone has to stop criticizing VC, you shouldn’t compare him to others that have achived more (T-MAC=his own cousin! Thats cold!). Yes we’ve all seen that he’s capable of so much more. He said he wants to be known as a more of all around player not just his high flying acrobatic stuff. Personally I think if you’re given that kind of talent ,please, share it with us! i agree his work ethic isn’t amazingly admirable but give the guy some credit- hes in New Jersey- fix the team up and expect more from the rest of them before you go apeshit on Vince
there is also no way the coaches won’t but him on the all star team- seven years and running!
Jan.28 at 7:07 pm
joe says:
how come he doesn’t do the motercycle pull bac kthing after nice shots anymore?
Jan.28 at 8:26 pm
Julian says:
he’s had two game winners and 13 buzzer beaters overall
Jan.28 at 11:44 pm
Agent Zero 4 M.V.P. says:
My Name says it all…..
Jan.28 at 11:47 pm
Agent Zero 4 M.V.P. says:
Also D’Antoni doesn’t choose the replacement David Turd i mean Stern does.
Jan.29 at 12:30 am
Lang Whitaker says:
ACtually, Stern will add a player to make sure they have 12 active players. But D’Antoni picks the starter from the guys on the bench, and I’m guessing Amare and Dirk will both make that list.
Jan.29 at 2:36 am
Agent Zero 4 M.V.P. says:
Here’s a question for anyone who wants to answer it who are your resevrves east and west using only
-2 guards
-2 forwards
-1 center
and 2 wildcard players of any position here are mine WEST
Fwds-Josh Howard and Dirk
Gs-Nash and Iverson
C-Stat
WCs-Melo (despite suspension) and Booz
Just miss out-Kevin Martin,Randolph and Camby EAST
Fwds-JO and Caron Butler
Gs-VC and JKidd
C-Dwight
WCs-Joe Johnson and Paul Pierce
Just miss out-Zo,Rip and Ben Gordon
Jan.29 at 9:44 am
Chief says:
Man Dwight Howard got robbed by the fans. That man is a beast and deserves the allstar spot. And why is Steve Nash not starting? Robbery is what this game is looking like to me. might have to even boycott it due to the lack of truth in the game.
T-Mac? I love this game, but not all the bandwagon fans.
Jan.29 at 11:29 am
Darksaber says:
watch nba games online guy, you is nasty. way to manipulate with your link sucker…. keep it to yourself, this is a b-ball site, freak
Jan.29 at 12:36 pm
Wolfgang says:
I can only totally agree with what DADI said: “VC not an allstar player!!?!?!?!?!are u kiddin me!?!? this guy is averaging 25/6/4.5,,,,,what the hell is wrong with you @LANG why are such incompetent people like you allowed to write such BS!! VC hasnt improved since his rookie year!?!? MAN WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!! VC improved his jumer
VC improved his three
VC improves his passing
VC improved his rebounding
VC improved his court vision so do me a favour……….call your insider and as him if it is Vince´s wife……. man you really should quit on your job cause you are as incompetent as a journalist can be” The only thing to add is that Lang should quit and keep on kissing Marbury’s ass for the rest of his life, like he’s been doing it ever since.
Jan.29 at 12:49 pm
BLAH says:
Anyone who demands to be traded and then admits that he took nights off is NOT deserving of 15 mil.
Jan.29 at 1:13 pm
Mike says:
Wow, VC did not say he took games off, he said he could have trained harder in the off-season. Everyone tries to turn what he said against him and make him look bad. You think everyone in the NBA is training 8 hours a day like Kobe?? I hardly think so. So why should Vince get hammered for being honest.
Jan.29 at 2:36 pm
Marco says:
I really think it’s unfair to say that Vince didn’t improve at all…it’s not just unfair, it’s stupid. Seriously! I mean, look at the way he played in college! Yes he was spectacular, but that was about it. His rookie year in the L was more or less the same. And then you could see a lot of improvement in his game…
You can say whatever you want.Lack of determination, no killer instict, looks to avoid contact. All that is more or less true. He ain’t Kobe for sure. And certainly never lived up to that “next Jordan” shit (but who does). But he did improve!
Jan.29 at 5:22 pm
Dany says:
Shaq Deserves 2 be an All Star, Know Why? Caus thats exactly wat he is… Just caus Hes played in 3 games Doesnt mean he doesnt provide Entertainment 2 every single nba fan. Shit Im not a huge Shaq fan but I love the way he plays in all star games, the dance the throw the ball of the backboard try 2 dunk of a free throw shot… him playing pg, its just halarious its entertainment, its about best vs the best sure, but its also about the Fans, and they Love Shaq… Plus who else would b a good C in the east? should we take Ilgauskus? C-webb/ Nazr, B.Haywood? Shaqs the right Choice
Jan.29 at 6:45 pm
Steve3 says:
Caron should start in the east.
Jan.29 at 7:16 pm
Agent Zero 4 M.V.P. says:
Yo Dany does Dwight Howard ring a bell!?!?!?
Jan.29 at 7:18 pm
Agent Zero 4 M.V.P. says:
What about Ben Wallace, Zo and Eddy Curry as well
Jan.29 at 7:21 pm
Agent Zero 4 M.V.P. says:
And plus it should based on whos having the best year not who can play 3 games and still be loved Dwight got robbed
Jan.29 at 7:37 pm
Matt says:
Everything is a popularity contest. Does the smartest man in America run the government? Vince had to adjust the style of his game, but he’s never had any heart. He used to dunk all the time, now he shoots and dances through the paint. Hollywood dunks into Hollywood jumpers. His numbers aren’t all that different. People are finally waking up to the fact that he plays when it’s convenient for Vince. He’s improved ‘aspects’ of his game, but until he starts to play like he wants to win who gives a shit about this prettyboy. I voted hard for Nash, that’s all we can do I guess. I voted for Gil also. He deserves to be in there based on last year’s playoffs alone.
Jan.29 at 7:39 pm
Matt says:
Vince should be in the Harlem Globetrotters
Jan.29 at 9:07 pm
darren says:
vince is still my man
Jan.30 at 12:38 am
Atomic Sushi says:
Shaq shouldn’t be an all-star this year damnit!!!!!!!!!!
Jan.30 at 1:18 am
Mike says:
VC with the sickest game winner this year, maybe in the last 10 years!! I want you all to eat your words now mother fuckers!!!
Jan.30 at 2:08 am
Agent Zero 4 M.V.P. says:
Mike Woah Woah Woah MJ on the Jazz was better so was Horry on the Kings but if ur talking bout the shot i think u are it’s at least top ten
Jan.30 at 2:09 am
Agent Zero 4 M.V.P. says:
maybe even top 5
Jan.30 at 4:26 am
dirrty says:
David says:
I’m 100% support Vince. He is one the player that makes people love to watch basketball. This two years he got too much critisim from the media and too much nor-call from the official. He plays like a superstar with 4 rookies in his team, a player 7′0 can’t shoot the ball, 40 years old Cliff, all the bad player surrounding him, injuries and his stat is 5.7 rebound, 4.4 assist and shot over 45% and average 25 points, better than any of the shooting guards in the East. Especially he plays without a superstar in his team, like Shaq with Kobe, MJ with Scottie. Last time i checked, VC still played with this guy named Jason Kidd. I hear he has 83 career triple doubles including 8 this season and is third on the all-time list (behind only the Big O and Magic). Yeah, must suck having NO superstar or future hall of famer next to him.
Jan.30 at 7:01 am
TRN says:
Since when I’all became VC haters?He should be a starter…and what’s with all the hype bout dirk over amre?How many highlights does dirk have?
Jan.30 at 1:35 pm
Mike says:
Hey Matt, did you watch last nights game?? Id like to hear your comments…
Jan.30 at 2:03 pm
V says:
Yo VC is shiii, I seen this guy turn the ball over at the 3 point line and watch the other player run down the court to go for a layup I waiting for VC to sprint back and pin this guy like MJ or Kobe, but what do I see I this fool laughing and talking to the other team at half court what else do I see, I see Jkidd sprint back and foul the dude. I wanna knock that smiile of VC’s face…….
Jan.30 at 5:29 pm
Steve3 says:
VC has Kidd and Jefferson… and still his team sucks…? If he starts, he should start over LeBron or Wade.
Feb.3 at 5:19 am
ziad bastami says:
whatever! check the buzzer beater in the jazz man!
vince is half human half amazing! so plz. do not meantion him as only a dunker, or a fade away shooter! 45 % is not average for a shotting guard who scores 25 a game, and take a lot of hard shoots in the end of the 24 or periods! look at iverson % 39! carmelo, 42, lebron, 44, kobe, 46!i rest my case!
vince is not the best player in the league, we all can see that, but this is due to one thing, the t-raps organization!that is it! if they kept the key players in, like tmac oakley and others, then mabe we will be seeing a flag and a ring in the air canada centeR!
regarding the 16 mil a year, well they will be stupid not to pay him that much, see when the nets where number 1 in the east couple of season ago, their arena was always half empty!since he signed in, it is up to 80% full!if not a sell out!
but the thing you can ask of vince is that he is sometimes not playing to his potential!
that is true, he can score 35 a night! even more, but the guy plays the game, not score all the way!even that i would love him to do so, since all u guys care for is winning, but to him he wants to have fun, and that is an important message to the new generation of players!
vince carter is a class act player, the best dunker ever, period, and one of the best 5 twos in the league, along with kobe, arenas, dwade and tmac!
peace!
Feb.3 at 11:09 am
Matt says:
Hey Mike, I did see that.. If I saw more of that, I would start to change my mind. He briefly reminded me of the old VC with that cold blooded swagger. I hope he keeps it up.
Feb.5 at 7:27 pm
25 a game. says:
Oh my good, you guys must be joking, I read about your hate against VC and I thought he must be having a bad year, then I saw he has avaraging 25 points a game, I mean c´mon is´nt that enough or what, stop hating